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    Bogdanovich is on the block, apparently..would be a great fit, but can't see how the Spurs would make it work..

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    Bogdanovich is on the block, apparently..would be a great fit, but can't see how the Spurs would make it work..
    Marjanovich for Bogdanovich?

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    Even more important is that I drafted him high on my fantasy team both times.
    Worried about a fantasy team when a guy's life in at the line

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    None of the trade proposals in this thread are realistic, aren't we just speaking for fun?

    , Horford for Green was even mentioned on San Antonio radio, apparently, sometimes you just need things to talk about
    There's a difference between proposing unrealistic trades and proposing impossible trades. A Boban/McCallum for MCW is realistic, but Boban is the main guy and no one is talking about him. Or Anderson if he's the asset. Or Simmons plus Bonner. Those are possible but potentially unrealistic trades that we can debate. But when people are like, "Of course I'd trade McCallum for Carter Williams," it's like, "Yeah, Silver would reject that."

    But since I kept talking about it, I wouldn't hate Boban and Ray for MCW with Ndoye being signed to a long-term contract. Still like him more than Cady and LJC, and I'd love to the team to lock him up for the post-Duncan transition.

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    Perhaps you get off on some fantasy alternative universe stuff, but in the NBA MCW has played 98% of the time as a PG and the little time he's spent off the ball he's shot .143 from 3.
    Go checkout Shumpert (3P: 32%) or Evan Turner (3P: 14%)who play off the ball & are rotation players on playoff team, even CoJo (3P: 25%) used to play off the ball alongside Manu & at time Porker. You also have Shaun Livingston who is a terrible 3 point shooter (16%) but occasional plays off the ball while Draymond/Curry/Iggy handle the ball.

    Besides, it's not like MCW is shooting 3s off the dribble like Curry & Fathead is shooting 32% on WIDE open looks while playing off the ball.

    Porker in his 4th season shots 27% on 156 attempts along with 18% in the playoffs on 48 attempts (TS%: 49% during the '05 playoff run).

    Iggy (the guy who was dared to shoot) shot 31% on 287 attempts with Denver & has now turned into a 40% shooter with the Worriers.

    Draymond Green shot 31% during his first 3 seasons.

    Thabo shot below 30% in his first 3 seasons with OKC.

    LeBron this this is shooting 27% on 195 attempts.

    Wade is a career 28% shooter on a 1345 attempts.

    Rondo is a career 28% shooter on 586 attempts.

    Speedy Claxton was a career 19% shooter on 218 attempts.

    TJ Ford was a career 28% shooter on 429 attempts along with a TS% of well below 50% in his first two seasons & had a TS% of 43% the season before he signed with the Spurs.

    Kidd in his last season with the Suns shot 29% & had a TS% of 48% in his so called "MVP season" ('01-'02) & his career playoff TS is 49%.

    Bowen shot only 33% on 307 attempts in his breakout season with Miami while being dared to shoot & had a TS% of 46% in his first season with the Spurs then suddenly became a lethal shooter when he was started taking over 80% of his 3s from the corner.

    Tony Allen has attempted only 363 in his entire 11 year NBA career.
    Marco this season: 29.9% vs. MCW (28.9%)....maybe playing on a ty team has something to do with it
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    But since I kept talking about it, I wouldn't hate Boban and Ray for MCW with Ndoye being signed to a long-term contract. Still like him more than Cady and LJC, and I'd love to the team to lock him up for the post-Duncan transition.
    Why would they trade for Boban when they are unhappy w/ Monroe's defense & they paid Henson who isn't getting much playing time despite being a beast on defense. They gave up Zaza for nothing b/c they weren't going to find playing time for him.

    Kidd is just interested in playing a bunch of 6'8'-6'10" wing players & Kyle is the only one that fit their mold (would be playing over guys like O'Bryant). Ennis ain't even getting burns so Ray is irrelevant outside of salary purposes.
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    Marjanovich for Bogdanovich?
    I think that exceeds the CBA rule on syllables in a trade involving only two players

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    Sac has made Beli available. His shooting is missed.

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    Sac has made Beli available. His shooting is missed.
    He's too expensive. He's owed $13M over the next seasons.

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    I think that exceeds the CBA rule on syllables in a trade involving only two players
    They aren't giving up Bogdanovic without getting a young prospect or a 1st rd pick back in return. Anyway, he isn't better than a potential buyout candidate such as Kevin Martin & the team doesn't need another defensive midget on the roster.

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    Sac has made Beli available. His shooting is missed.
    His shooting was missed against the Worriers.

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    Too bad the Spurs don't have a $4.5 mil contract like Bonner's from a few years ago lying around. Swinging a trade for Beli right now sounds good.

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    Too bad the Spurs don't have a $4.5 mil contract like Bonner's from a few years ago lying around. Swinging a trade for Beli right now sounds good.
    They can use Bonner's contract to acquire John Leuer but Sarver will just -block or Bonner's ass might veto

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    They can use Bonner's contract to acquire John Leuer but Sarver will just -block or Bonner's ass might veto
    Not interested in a big tbh. Another wing that can move with/without the ball, pass, and shoot the three sounds great.

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    Not interested in a big tbh. Another wing that can move with/without the ball, pass, and shoot the three sounds great.
    Boban/Bonner are unplayable in the playoffs & Leuer will come in handy against mobile bigs like Draymond/Blake/Bosh/Davis/Markieff/T-Jones, stretch 4s like Dirk/Ryan Anderson/Love/Illyasova/Patrick Patterson/D-Mo/Meyers Leonard along with shot blockers like Ibaka/DeAndre/Ezeli/Capela who aren't postup players.

    Otherwise, if Diaw/West are wetting the bed, in foul trouble or injured the backup option is Rasual who is undersized & will get exposed in a playoff series.

    Rasual can be used as the designated shooter assuming he hasn't lost his shooting touch otherwise pickup a buyout candidate like Kevin Martin.

    The Dream:

    Trade Kyle/Ray for MCW (pickup Kevin Martin to fill the other roster spot)
    Trade Bonner for Leuer

    Playoff roster:

    Timmay/West
    LMA/Diaw/Leuer
    Kawhi/Butler
    Danny/Manu/K-Mart
    Tony/Patty/MCW

    13 active player in the postseason, so inactive (can change game to game):
    -Boban
    -Simmons
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    Guys, stop the pipedream.
    The Bucks won't give us MCW for basically free.
    Agree with you on this. It is a pipedream. The guy they want is more likely Patty. So that is the end of that.

    Kawhitstorm is getting all these scenarios to convince us here, but they are pure fiction. The guy that would very likely get it done is Patty. So no. We are staying put. Also, I am kind of leaning with sasaint now. It is probably better to hoard our picks and our prospects and make a move for a better talent than MCW.

    The more I considered it, the less I like him, bc we are likely to really need a much better guard than we currently have and better than MCW.

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    Leuer won't come in handy at all. Like seriously, what are you smoking? And while Butler isn't going to check Blake or Draymond, he'll be fine as a fifth big in that scenario.

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    ESPN sources say Nets vet Joe Johnson, to this point, still has not broached the subject of a buyout should no trades materialize this week.

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    Damn it, Ace. When I saw you had the most recent post in this thread, I got excited.

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    Damn it, Ace. When I saw you had the most recent post in this thread, I got excited.
    lol, still quiet on the trade front for all teams...

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    Leuer won't come in handy at all. Like seriously, what are you smoking? And while Butler isn't going to check Blake or Draymond, he'll be fine as a fifth big in that scenario.
    Have you ACTUALLY seen Leuer play? He's the white version Patrick Patterson & a better TWO-WAY player than ass Teletovic. I can see him playing a Chris "Birdman" Anderson type role on a contender except he can actually shoot. The Cripples could use him & he can play alongside DeAndre but GM Doc is an idiot.















    Bonus:

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    Sac has made Beli available. His shooting is missed.
    Wow how the mighty have fallen, further proof that system does matter. It puts Rays production in the Kings in a lot of perspective for me. Ray may yet looks much better for us next season if he's resigned.

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    Wow how the mighty have fallen, further proof that system does matter. It puts Rays production in the Kings in a lot of perspective for me. Ray may yet looks much better for us next season if he's resigned.
    Ray isn't going to get playing time unless Patty is moved.

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    Ray isn't going to get playing time unless Patty is moved.

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