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    I don't troll, and I was born in Jamaica. Taxes are reasonable in Jamaica. There's no social security/medicare type tax - mostly 25% income tax. Like most third world countries, if you have money, you can live very well because the cost of living is relatively cheap. Maybe you stayed at one of those all-inclusive places like Sandals? Did you pay one fee for all you can eat, drink (including alcohol), free scuba, horseback riding, etc? Then those are tourists. The locals are all working - either in hotels or business.
    Well who owns the horses? The tourists?

    I'm Texan and I don't even own a horse. And a fruit tree and or cocoa plant in the backyard sounds pretty exotic.

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    Well who owns the horses? The tourists?

    I'm Texan and I don't even own a horse. And a fruit tree and or cocoa plant in the backyard sounds pretty exotic.
    There are all-inclusive resorts where you pay one fee and everything is free - all the food, alcohol, entertainment (golf, scuba, horseback riding, kayaking, windsurfing, snorkeling, waterskiing, dancing), beach, pool, room. Everything in the resort is free for the days you stay. Some people just drink and drink and drink (alcohol).

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    I don't troll, and I was born in Jamaica. Taxes are reasonable in Jamaica. There's no social security/medicare type tax - mostly 25% income tax. Like most third world countries, if you have money, you can live very well because the cost of living is relatively cheap. Maybe you stayed at one of those all-inclusive places like Sandals? Did you pay one fee for all you can eat, drink (including alcohol), free scuba, horseback riding, etc? Then those are tourists. The locals are all working - either in hotels or business.
    At least its not Haiti. . . .

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    Get rid of the Department of Education - return to the local level. Stop with the bureaucracy and insane amount of testing. Get back to the basics - hammer in the 3 Rs - stop with the Black History Month, Hispanic Month, Author's Gallery and science projects in elementary schools. See the "How to fix our public schools thread."
    Mostly agree.

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    I don't troll, and I was born in Jamaica. Taxes are reasonable in Jamaica. There's no social security/medicare type tax - mostly 25% income tax. Like most third world countries, if you have money, you can live very well because the cost of living is relatively cheap. Maybe you stayed at one of those all-inclusive places like Sandals? Did you pay one fee for all you can eat, drink (including alcohol), free scuba, horseback riding, etc? Then those are tourists. The locals are all working - either in hotels or business.
    What works for an island nation of 3M with a rather simple economy does not work well for a continent spanning post-industrial country of 300+M.

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    I disagree with education curriculum placed at the local level. Too many re ed states and school districts out there.

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    I disagree with education curriculum placed at the local level. Too many re ed states and school districts out there.
    so what do you suggest

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    so what do you suggest
    It'll never happen, but I want education funded and curriculum approved at a federal level.

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    There's no wrong with Common Core. It's very general, rather than detailed, leaving lots of local flexibility for how to achieve it CC standards.

    The fact that school systems need a couple years to upgrade to it means it is raising standards

    The Repugs and rightwingnuts have slandered and lied about CC enough, so the red, slave states feel obligated to ignore it as Federally imposed overreach, which is total bull .

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    What works for an island nation of 3M with a rather simple economy does not work well for a continent spanning post-industrial country of 300+M.
    My response was not meant to be a comparison to the US. I was simply responding to his statement about cost of living and taxes in Jamaica.

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    There's no wrong with Common Core.

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    The Repugs and rightwingnuts have slandered and lied about CC enough, so the red, slave states feel obligated to ignore it as Federally imposed overreach, which is total bull .
    Opposition to Common Core has been pretty bipartisan in my circles.

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    My response was not meant to be a comparison to the US. I was simply responding to his statement about cost of living and taxes in Jamaica.
    (nods) Gotcha. Sorry about my knee-jerk reaction. one-size-fits-all solutions are a dime a dozen here, and I have developed a rather rote response to such things.

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    Opposition to Common Core has been pretty bipartisan in my circles.
    from what I read is that progressives, the educated people, worry not about CC because it sets standards, but because implementation could hurt their kids currently caught between pre-CC and post-CC. That concern is real because it sure seems like the implementation in many places is/was botched, too fast, too brutal.

    While rightwingnuts' knees jerk, the low-wage, low-info, low-education people, at anything that raises standards because they and their kids are dumb s, ideological robots resisting anything from govt at any level.

    I still see nothing wrong with CC setting standards that are very reasonable, leaving complete local flexibility for how to achieve the standards. Whether the implementation is equally reasonable is totally different issue.

    slave state SC has very high standards: “In South Carolina, you’ve got to know how to add one-digit numbers,”

    http://www.postandcourier.com/articl...-new-standards

    CC set standards for kids to achieve, but apparently does nothing or not much to raise the education, qualification, reduce churn of teachers, which is the "core" problem of education.



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    Opposition to Common Core has been pretty bipartisan in my circles.
    Which is funny because common core was a bipartisan creation.

    I am for whatever the f*** works for education. My gut says we aren't paying teachers enough to attract and keep talented people long enough, and we have too much administrative bull getting in the way of the talented teachers we do have.

    My opinion, though, might be somewhat stilted by the fact that I am pretty much describing my wife's experience, but it seems to jibe with a lot of stuff she collectively sees on teacher message boards.

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    "we aren't paying teachers enough"

    and we don't have high enough qualifications, education, esp subject-specific.

    Teachers are one critical segment where all college and post-grad, on-going training should be free, with a committment to spend x years teaching in the state supplied the grants.



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