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    You've been pooh-poohing on leonard ever since he was drafted.
    Join Date: 07-19-2015 Not denying it. Why are you posting with your troll account? Are you in hiding?
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    Kawhi is in the Larry Bird situation where he was the best player among a couple of HOFer teammates & plays on a team which has had continuous success for decades. Meanwhile Curry is like Isiah Thomas who played with All-Star players whom he overshadowed with his flashy game & plays for a franchise that didn't have recent success until his s om.

    The issue is that Kawhi has tattoos & a cornrow meanwhile Curry is light-skin plus lacks facial hair.

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    provided the criterion is still based around which player is most important to his team.

    Sans Kawhi:

    - Looking like absolute trash defensively against a bottom feeder.
    Spurs looked like trash the last time they played the lakers too, and Kawhi played that game.

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    Spurs looked like trash the last time they played the lakers too, and Kawhi played that game.
    Defensively.

    Last game the Spurs gave up 102 points on 39% shooting. This game, they gave up 113 points on 49% shooting.

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    Join Date: 07-19-2015 Not denying it. Why are you posting with your troll account? Are you in hiding?
    What's there to hide from?

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    Kawhi gets discredited because he plays with 3 HOFers, as if those guys are in their prime vs the tail end of their careers. Not to discredit the Big3 because having them around helped Kawhi's development on (not having a lot of pressure to perform early in his career) and off the court.


    Still it'll be tough to make a case for anyone other than Curry to win the MVP this season.

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    And? The spurs got blwon out by the clippers minus griffin.
    They're better without Griffin defensively and offensively.

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    Curry's a lock. KD will likely finish 2nd.

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    Curry's a lock. KD will likely finish 2nd.
    WestBrick will get more votes than Durant.

    Most likely:
    -Curry- unanimous
    -Kawhi
    -LeBron
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    -CP3
    -Servant

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    Curry >>

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    Sorry, but Curry is the clear-cut MVP and best player in the world.

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    I disagree. Fat head is just that horrible

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    We have no back up SF so yeah

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    Pop's lineups, missing Manu, and whether or not LMA shows up to play are all factors as well. Not just Kawhi missing. Spurs can beat all but 4 or 5 teams without Kawhi. And all but 1 team with him...

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    In a dogfight against the transparently tanking and shorthanded Suns without him..It is sad and embarrassing, really..but it puts in sharp relief the above statement..

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    The spurs without Leonard is so ty.lol

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    provided the criterion is still based around which player is most important to his team.

    Sans Kawhi:

    - Blown out by the Clippers missing Griffin.

    - Looking like absolute trash defensively against a bottom feeder.

    Wardell's number 2 (Raymond) is arguably a top 5 player himself. And Klay is probably the best SG in the league.

    Also, no agendas in this thread. I like the Spurs overall roster, but it's evident that Kawhi is the lynchpin that unites all those parts.
    That's such flawed criteria.

    Obviously, a player of Leonard's magnitude would be highly important to any team, but part of the reason he's so important to this one, is the lack of wing depth.

    Even if Ginobili were healthy, they need him with the bench and none of the other options is a fit in the starting lineup nor all that appealing to begin with, so of course that exacerbates the loss.

    The reality is, there is no race for the MVP. Curry is having a historically great season (impacting the game as much as possible for someone of his stature) and barring a significant injury, had it wrapped up 20 something games in.

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    I like our chances in a no-Kawhi, no-Curry Spurs/Warriors series. So nah, I think Curry is the MVP.

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    I like our chances in a no-Kawhi, no-Curry Spurs/Warriors series. So nah, I think Curry is the MVP.

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    I like our chances in a no-Kawhi, no-Curry Spurs/Warriors series. So nah, I think Curry is the MVP.
    Manu gonna turn back the clock, tony gonna turn back the clock, tim gonna turn back the clock, green stops being a role player, LMA gonna hulk us to a 7 game series win.

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    I like our chances in a no-Kawhi, no-Curry Spurs/Warriors series. So nah, I think Curry is the MVP.
    The warriors would beat the Spurs in 6.

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    I like our chances in a no-Kawhi, no-Curry Spurs/Warriors series. So nah, I think Curry is the MVP.
    You can't be serious.

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    That's such flawed criteria.

    Obviously, a player of Leonard's magnitude would be highly important to any team, but part of the reason he's so important to this one, is the lack of wing depth.

    Even if Ginobili were healthy, they need him with the bench and none of the other options is a fit in the starting lineup nor all that appealing to begin with, so of course that exacerbates the loss.

    The reality is, there is no race for the MVP. Curry is having a historically great season (impacting the game as much as possible for someone of his stature) and barring a significant injury, had it wrapped up 20 something games in.
    That's what makes his case. Kawhi really is on an island out there on the perimeter. Sure, Green can take some pressure off him defensively, but that's about it. If Kawhi can't score, we basically have no wing scoring. Wardell can have a bad game, and Klay can still light it up for 35. Even Harrison Barnes is a threat to drop 20 quite often.

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