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Yeah I said for two weeks to go hard on Noel. Ibaka or Noel for 2017..prefrebly Ibaka.
If this turns out to be the last season for TD, obviously we will have to find a starting center. West and Boris are probably too small or too old to be long term answers, Boban has possibilities but is still mostly an unknown and may not be starting caliber. I admit I am in pure fantasy land here, but maybe we could pry a significant big out of one of the places where we've a strong Spurs connection. History shows you can sometimes get players at a discount when dealing with a person connected to his old club, witness Jerry West give Pau to the Lakers at a good price, as well as Kevin McHale giving KG to the Celtics for spare parts. In fact those two moves created teams that dominated the NBA from 2008 to 2010. Bud in Atlanta has already proven his willingness to work with the Spurs by taking Splitter from us so we could get LMA.
So, (and again pure speculation here, I know), looking around...
1. Sean Marks, might try to hit the reset button in Brooklyn and be willing to deal Brook Lopez.
2. Coach Bud could do some sort of sign and trade that would allow us to sign Al Holford even if we don't have the cap room to get him as a FA. Or would you take Tiago back and pray his career health takes a positive turn?
3. Brett Brown and the 76ers have a plethora of bigs (especially if Joel Embid ever plays). I'd love to get Noel from them, a defensive specialist that wouldn't take the ball from LMA and Kawhi. Okafor, while impressive, seems to have slightly disappointed some, who knows....
Yeah, its all fantasy, but any thoughts on these scenarios? Are there any other members of the Pop/RC tree I'm forgetting about with a big they might want to move?
Last edited by BillMc; 02-20-2016 at 04:02 PM.
Yeah I said for two weeks to go hard on Noel. Ibaka or Noel for 2017..prefrebly Ibaka.
Ibaka is perfect though. Both offensively and defensively...
Obviously, either would be great. Not sure when Ibaka will be a FA, but would be surprised if he'd be willing to move unless Westbrook and Durant jump ship.
Thats the whole optimism with Ibaka. If Westbrook and durant move, it makes it possible to sign him.
As a spursfan, you have to cheer for durant leaving OKC.
Ibaka isn't perfect. He's a low IQ player & can't postup anyone to save his life. Wouldn't give him the max under any cir stance. Ian busted a nut in his face yesterday & can be had for less than 10 mill to be a rim protector/PnR option.
Why would he need to post up though? His shot blocking and three point shooting is perfect. Plenty of low IQ player like Green, Parker etc have had decent sucess in a spurs system.
I'm not advocating a max. If hes market is the max, Id raher go for Noel. 15-16 per should put a lot of pressure on Philly
Sixers keeping Noel.
Joakim Noah or Roy Hibbert seem much more probable, sadly.
i like hibbert.
We got no cap until 2017. Best hope we can eke another season out of Duncan.
I thought Ian would be a good choice. I always felt the Spurs medical staff misdiagnosing his ankle injury cost him valuable court time during his 3rd year.
Then we're permanently and irrevocably ed. (I didn't read any further.)
Since it's just a fantasy, I'll take Ibaka
Porker isn't a low IQ player, he's just a selfish diva.
Ibaka being the last line of defense means he has to anchor the defense & call out the sets, you don't want a low IQ player doing that otherwise he will get exposed in a playoff series when team start delving into their playbooks rather than just running the basics. Despite being an elite rim protector & mobile, he sucks against small-ball lineups b/c he has to use his head on defense (not just react) & can't punish undersized defenders on the other end.
I like Ian, and I prefer him over Ibaka for the Spurs.
You mean the guy who lost his job to Ian?
It isn't necessarily Ian being better than Ibaka but the fact he can be had for less than 10 mill/per while Ibaka is going to get 20 mill/per.
Bigs ain't our problem. You ain't gonna replace Duncan. LMA is what we have. We could do better...but, we could do a lot worse.
No, replacing Duncan with another Big is not the issue. Guards. Shooting guards, defensive guards, assist guards. That's where the focus shoulda been even before we got LMA. If we'd gotten a max player guard instead of LMA, I woulda been happy just having D West. Now that we got LMA as well as D west, the guard position is even more critical and is the most glaring weakness and should be the #1 focus going forward.
I'm not sold Joakim is done, Bogut career was on the fringes when he was traded to the Worriers but they have extended his career by managing his minutes. Deng, another player whose career was grinded away by Thibs, is now playing 30 minutes on a playoff team.
West opted out AFTER Aldridge agreed w/ the Spurs aka the chicken came after the egg.
Yeah...You mean the guy who lost his job to Ian?
If Duncan retires, he absolutely needs to be replaced. That doesn't mean that you'll get another legend. But the Spurs don't have any legit center other than LMA, and for his long-term health, he shouldn't play there exclusively. He isn't supposed to be the Tim replacement. He's supposed to be the guy who replaces what the Big Three have lost in terms of production. You'll still need to figure out who to put next to LMA next year, and if that answer is "Who cares?" the team isn't going anywhere.
Guards are a big issue, namely a play-making two-guard. Hopefully Manu can get it together this year, but even so, the team will need someone next year. They just can't deal with Patty not being a play-maker going forward. And you need a starting-caliber guard to sub in for Green in the minutes where Parker isn't in or just ineffective. I don't know if the answer would be to max out a Clarkson and force the Lakers to carry a 5/5/21//22 contract. The $13.5 Million flat rate it would cost the Spurs don't seem egregious on its face. If they can do that AND find a way to lock in a decent five on a one-year deal, maybe they can sneak in a max slot in 2017 for a more permanent replacement.
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