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    Sigh...ok, if you don't think LMA was brought in to replace Tim, and that we need someone else to replace Tim...ok, w/e. LMA can't do what Tim does...and nobody else in the league can either. So, you ain't gonna replace Tim with anyone else. But, yeah, LMA needs help. lol. Timmy didn't need help. He won 5 championships with scrub centers. Timmy needs to retire, he's hobbling right now on 1 1/2 legs. Shoulda had his knee replaced years ago. If they brought in LMA to play "with" Tim...that was stupid. They needed to bring in someone to "replace" Tim. And I have no doubt, that is why they brought LMA in.

    I have come to the conlusion...that Tim and Manu's passing was what really made the old Spurs move. They both had great bbiq, court vision and moved the ball around. I think those 2 were the keys that made the "beautiful" game everyone talked about. LMA and Kawhi just aren't passers and I don't think see the court nearly as well. And Tony is much more of a scoring guard. So, when either of those 2 aren't on the court, the Spurs look lost. Diaw ain't bad at it, and Kyle has potential...but, they really ain't that close to Tim and Manu. Another big really doesn't address that issue at all...which I think is the key. Well, if you actually want to keep the passing game going.


    Who's gonna distribute the ball around without those 2? Do we become an ISO team? I dunno. What I do know is this. Manu, Tim and Tony all need to be healthy and playing well for us to have any chance of doing anything this year. Cuz, without them, this team is lost on the court. And if you don't upgrade the backcourt when both those guys are gone...it's going to go from the "beautiful game" to the "wtf is that?" game lol
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    The answer is prince ibeh, the Texas Longhorn center that is projected to go late first round early 2nd round. 6-11 260lbs with a 7'4 wingspan. He moves well and is athletic. He is the answer

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    I like Ebeh but he's raw and a foul machine. He'll probably need a season or two in the DLeague.

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    They are going to try signing Westbrook/Durant in 2017...
    You guessing on Durant signing a 1 year contract this summer a la Lebron/Wade? Because Durant become an UFA this summer.

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    I have one legit non trolling question bc I see both your points. Like you, I am very concerned about the state of our guards. Heck I haven't been opposed to multiple trade ideas that involve Anderson, one of my favorite young players bc I recognize the team needs one elite guard.

    So here we are. If we don't get a big to play next to LMA who do you see next to him?

    Milutinov is too young. Boban? LJC? This question is for Chinook too. If we don't have Timmy who do you play next to him? D.West? Could be an option. We need someone that is of good enough caliber to start.
    Yeah, it would be nice to have a monster defensive big. Diaw, West and even Aldridge play small on D. Boban? Geesh...I dunno, lol. But, I like Diaw and West on the offensive end. So, I'd prolly start West also. If we get a dedicated defensive big, ala Tiago, then I guess we'd bring both Diaw and West of the bench. Leaving LMA as the primary offensive option low. Ugh...lol

    But, it's still the backcourt that is our major problem. Has been, and will continue to be until addressed. I was hoping Parker would become a much better floor general as he got older and slower. But, it looks like he still a scorer, just taking more jumpers (and hitting them) rather than driving. If he would just look more to playmaking, that could still happen. D will always be an issue with tho...sigh.
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    If this turns out to be the last season for TD, obviously we will have to find a starting center. West and Boris are probably too small or too old to be long term answers, Boban has possibilities but is still mostly an unknown and may not be starting caliber. I admit I am in pure fantasy land here, but maybe we could pry a significant big out of one of the places where we've a strong Spurs connection. History shows you can sometimes get players at a discount when dealing with a person connected to his old club, witness Jerry West give Pau to the Lakers at a good price, as well as Kevin McHale giving KG to the Celtics for spare parts. In fact those two moves created teams that dominated the NBA from 2008 to 2010. Bud in Atlanta has already proven his willingness to work with the Spurs by taking Splitter from us so we could get LMA.

    So, (and again pure speculation here, I know), looking around...

    1. Sean Marks, might try to hit the reset button in Brooklyn and be willing to deal Brook Lopez.

    2. Coach Bud could do some sort of sign and trade that would allow us to sign Al Holford even if we don't have the cap room to get him as a FA. Or would you take Tiago back and pray his career health takes a positive turn?

    3. Brett Brown and the 76ers have a plethora of bigs (especially if Joel Embid ever plays). I'd love to get Noel from them, a defensive specialist that wouldn't take the ball from LMA and Kawhi. Okafor, while impressive, seems to have slightly disappointed some, who knows....

    Yeah, its all fantasy, but any thoughts on these scenarios? Are there any other members of the Pop/RC tree I'm forgetting about with a big they might want to move?
    I can see a reset in Brooklyn, I'm just not max money high on Brook Lopez.
    I like Horford, but others will offer more than I believe the Spurs would to get him.
    Noel imo is the best fit of the three, but I just don't see Philly doing it.
    Although he's not a 'big', and as unlikely as it sounds, I'd pursue Kevin Durant.

    BUT realistically...be prudent. I think there's going to be a lot of over spending with the rise in the cap. I'd sit back and wait until the smoke clears. Continue to do what the Spurs do, work the draft and player development through the D league.
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    A mobile defensive big please. They are hard to come by, but the Spurs perimeter defenders are getting crushed by screens and we have no bigs quick enough to step out and recover to their man.

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    A mobile defensive big please. They are hard to come by, but the Spurs perimeter defenders are getting crushed by screens and we have no bigs quick enough to step out and recover to their man.
    And there you have it. Another conundrum

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    Thats the whole optimism with Ibaka. If Westbrook and durant move, it makes it possible to sign him.

    As a spursfan, you have to cheer for durant leaving OKC.
    Not if he goes to the Warriors

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    A mobile defensive big please. They are hard to come by, but the Spurs perimeter defenders are getting crushed by screens and we have no bigs quick enough to step out and recover to their man.
    Hmm. We have someone in the wings who might fill that bill. 7', 250 lbs; Defense first,mobile, aggressive on rebounds & block shots. He's not ready now, but interesting prospect who is learning the game in Austin. Ndoye's rookie year so far while averaging only 20 minutes per game.


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    Boban and Ndoye might be a fun pair to watch, eh.

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    Maximum offer sheet to Clarkson would be $56.2M/4 (assuming a $93-Million cap) in case people are wondering. It would count as $14.05 Million for four years for other teams or $5.63M, $5.88M, $21.90M, $22.80M for the Lakers. I do think that those last two years would give the Lakers pause right now (in terms of money, they should do the same for SA). If the team is desperate for a young guard, and Clarkson is willing to come off the bench for a few years and work on his game, it's not prohibitive.
    Where do you watch archives for D league games? I want to see Ndoye. If hes as good as you say, The spurs should put 80% of their focus into getting kawhi a perimter player.

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    Where do you watch archives for D league games? I want to see Ndoye. If hes as good as you say, The spurs should put 80% of their focus into getting kawhi a perimter player.
    You can just look them up on YouTube. And I don't consider Ndoye a bona fide rotation player right now. But I think he's a third center who has higher upside than Baynes, because he's already much better defensively and looks to have the same potential offensively.

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    You guessing on Durant signing a 1 year contract this summer a la Lebron/Wade? Because Durant become an UFA this summer.
    No reason for him not to sign a 1 yr contract unless he want to jump on the Worriers bandwagon b/c he isn't going to find a better wingman than Westbrook elsewhere.

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