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    If Cruz drops out... does trump get a net gain of voters?

    If rubio drops out.. does trump get more net gain of voters?

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    yeah cruz voters make no sense ... they support cruz because he's "the most conservative" but then trump is their 2nd option?

    rubio needs kasich to bow out and carson to stay in. cruz is ed unless rubio drops out prematurely

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    IMO, Carson takes evangelical votes from Cruz... the longer he stays, the more ed up Cruz is... especially now that Rubio is getting Jeb's votes

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    IMO, Carson takes evangelical votes from Cruz... the longer he stays, the more ed up Cruz is... especially now that Rubio is getting Jeb's votes
    trump is beating cruz with evangelicals anyway... which is basically gg

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    trump is beating cruz with evangelicals anyway... which is basically gg
    Yeah. IMO, Rubio is the only guy with any shot at making this a two horse race, but he needs to do a lot better than this. That's why that extra 4%, 5% from Kasich would help him solidify the 2nd spot and try to gain some momentum...

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    1. trump 46% 12 d

    2. rubotio 23% 5 d

    3. cruz 20% 5 d


    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...short/m.059_c/

    Go Bernie!
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    at this point it looks like its gna be hillary barring an indictment

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    yeah cruz voters make no sense ... they support cruz because he's "the most conservative" but then trump is their 2nd option?

    rubio needs kasich to bow out and carson to stay in. cruz is ed unless rubio drops out prematurely
    Both are considered "outsiders."

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    Both are considered "outsiders."

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    This is ordinarily about the time pundits start telling the public how impressive Marco Rubio’s triumphant second-place showing really was. And while I don’t doubt some will make a valiant effort to put a pro-Rubio spin on the Nevada results, his latest failure is almost certainly the most devastating to date.

    Indeed, Rubio was supposed to win the Nevada caucuses. Consider:

    * Rubio lived in Nevada and he still has many extended family members in the state.

    * Rubio invested heavily in the state, running far more ads than any other Republican, seeing it as a real opportunity for a key victory.

    * Rubio enjoyed the support of Nevada’s Republican governor, Republican senator, two of the state’s three Republican congressmen, and the editorial board of Nevada’s largest newspaper. Among GOP lawmakers in the state legislature, Rubio received more than double the number of endorsements than his next closest rival.

    * As recently as December, Nevada was described as Rubio’s “firewall – the state he could count on winning, even if all else fails.

    It’s against this backdrop that Rubio lost by 22 points. Nevada has 16 counties, and Rubio fell short in each of them.

    The Florida senator’s communications director last night applauded Rubio’s “strong finish in Nevada.”

    It’s hard to imagine even the most sycophantic supporter actually believing this.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow

    strong finishED.



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    Yeah Rubio blames others that are in the race but u add Cruz and his his u might beat trump
    Man up and admit u lost
    Your poor work ethic in Washington cost u and not attending 60 percent of your foreign affair meetings when u are on the board

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    Yeah Rubio blames others that are in the race but u add Cruz and his his u might beat trump
    Man up and admit u lost
    Your poor work ethic in Washington cost u and not attending 60 percent of your foreign affair meetings when u are on the board
    I won't forgetting that he's sponsoring the I-squared bill that may almost quadruple the number of H1-B visas when it's time for Florida.

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    Rubio sucks as bad as Jeb tbh

    christie completely obliterated him with 2 sentences

    this is too easy for The Donald

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    Rubio backers still can’t find his successes

    The first sign of trouble, oddly enough, came from Rick Santorum. Shortly after the failed presidential candidate endorsed Marco Rubio, Santrorum was asked on MSNBC to name even one accomplishment from the Florida senator’s record. Santorum made a valiant effort, but he couldn’t think of anything.

    “I guess it’s hard to say there are accomplishments.” Santorum conceded a few days before the New Hampshire primary.

    Two weeks later, another notable Rubio backer, Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) was asked the same question. Inhofe pointed to a military spending bill the Florida senator voted for – which didn’t make any sense since Rubio didn’t show up for work when the Senate passed the bill in question.

    And yesterday, as Politico reported, it happened yet again.

    One of Marco Rubio’s newest congressional endorsers struggled to point to one specific thing he has seen over the course of the last year from the Florida senator that, as MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts asked, “demonstrates presidential character.” Not only that, but he also called some of the Rubio’s past actions “frustrating.”

    It would have been bad enough for Rep. Cresent Hardy (R-Nev.), who endorsed Rubio ahead of this week’s Nevada caucuses, to come up empty when defending the Floridian’s record. But during hisMSNBC appearance, the congressman added, “As far as [Rubio’s] policies in the past, I know that he’s done some things that even have been a little frustrating for an individual like myself at times.”


    Hardy did applaud the “Gang of Eight” immigration reform package, which is the one thing Rubio actually worked on, but which Rubio soon after abandoned in order to appeal to the Republican Party’s far-right base.

    In other words, we saw yet another one of Rubio’s congressional supporters come up empty when trying to explain why their preferred candidate deserves a promotion to the world’s most powerful office.

    John Kasich’s campaign, hoping to exploit Rubio’s recent failures at the ballot box, was quick to highlight the interview. “It’s weird to send surrogates out without them being able to list one achievement but at least they are being honest,”


    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow

    Rubotio thinks he can become President with talking points, exagerrations, lies.

    Of course, that Rubotio hasn't actaully governed for endears him to Repugs who hate government, refuse to govern.




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    Kasich is taking votes from Rubio, Carson is taking votes from Trump because they both fall under the bull "outsider" category

    looks like the best shot is to unite behind cruz.
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    yeah cruz voters make no sense ... they support cruz because he's "the most conservative" but then trump is their 2nd option?

    rubio needs kasich to bow out and carson to stay in. cruz is ed unless rubio drops out prematurely
    it's because they are both seen as outsiders to the establishment. The only thing is Trump is so outside, he is all the way in left field.

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    looks like the best shot is to unite behind cruz.
    But the establishment hates Cruz more than Trump. They feel they can negotiate with Trump more.

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    Trump leading Rubio in NewCuba (florida) 40-20

    his own home state

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    Looks like Marco Rubio has some ‘splaining to do. More and more rumors are surfacing out of Florida that he had an ongoing affair with a DC lobbyist named Amber Stoner. This allegedly occurred while he wase serving as the Speaker of the Florida State House of Representatives. He used an American Express credit card from the Florida Republican Party to pay for AT LEAST 17 separate trips for the two of them. They seemed to end up in the very same place frequently. I’ve heard these rumors for some time now and usually where there is smoke, there is fire with this sort of thing. The records in question are publicly searchable on The Florida Times-Union website. People are asking why a lobbyist would be traveling using his credit card and why a number of those trips were to resort locations
    Read more: http://rightwingnews.com/republicans...gop-candidate/

    ......'there are 17 trips by this Amber Stoner on Rubio's credit charges within this database....

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    Read more: http://rightwingnews.com/republicans...gop-candidate/

    ......'there are 17 trips by this Amber Stoner on Rubio's credit charges within this database....
    Dont blame him. Red head looks very able.

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    10 Things You Need to Know About Marco Rubio

    He's also enjoyed a cozy relationship with state Rep. Esteban Bovo, who's a lobbyist by day, and Bovo's wife, also a lobbyist, who ended up on a couple of air trips with Rubio that were charged to that GOP credit card. Another young health care lobbyist, Amber Stoner, also shows up as a recipient of 10 paid flights with Rubio on his Republican Amex.

    It goes deeper, but trying to untangle Rubio's lobbyist and dark-money connections is like trying to flowchart Whitewater and Iran-Contra while eating spaghetti with chopsticks outside, at night, in the middle of a hurricane.


    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ut-marco-rubio

    Senator Marco Rubio has been having some problems with his personal finances which could present a problem for him in a vice presidential vetting process.

    Rubio owes far more on his $384,000 Miami home than it is worth, and at times has had difficulty paying his mortgage.
    He bought the home in 2005 for $550,000 with a $495,000 mortgage. He soon had it appraised for $735,000 and took out a second mortgage for $135,000.

    In 2008, despite earning a declared $400,000 - including his $300,000 salary from the Miami law firm Broad and Cassel - Rubio failed to make a payment on his home for several months, according to Florida campaign finance disclosures.

    During the same period he did not make payments on a $100,000-plus student loan from his days at the University of Miami, the disclosures said.
    Apparently he also got in some trouble for using a credit card issued by the Florida Republican Party for personal reasons, and had to pay them back. How can you earn $400,000 a year and still be unable to pay your mortgage and student loans? Where was all the money going? I hope someone will do a little more looking into that question as it could be, at the very least, quite a bit of fun to read.
    Feel free to conjecture below.

    Updated:
    Well, this started as an idle post out of a newspaper story, but a tiny bit of looking around finds a few questions. There appear to be some suggestions out there that he may have had a relationship (of what kind I do not know) with a health care lobbyist, Amber Stoner.


    Here's a question for Marco Rubio
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    his credit cards had at least 10 charges for flights under Amber Stoner's name (image here)

    She checks in
    at his office on Foursquare a lot


    Did he help
    buy her a house?


    So - that is what the rumor mill seems to be saying. I have no idea whether there is anything to it or whether it is related to his financial issues.

    12:26 PM PT: You can see the charges on his credit card here:

    http://news.jacksonville.com/...

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...blems-updated-


    Marco Rubio Remains A Star, But Financial Problems Could Keep Him From Vice Presidency

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1233480.html

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    Trump isn't just going to take what Rubio did to him last night. Get ready for him to start attacking Rubio as a nervous sweater... if things really get heated (and they most certainly will ) then Trump may even start going after Rubio's financial difficulties.

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    Trump isn't just going to take what Rubio did to him last night. Get ready for him to start attacking Rubio as a nervous sweater... if things really get heated (and they most certainly will ) then Trump may even start going after Rubio's financial difficulties.
    Now that would be ironic.

    It would backfire in a few ways. 1, who do you think is supporting him? The poor. Him saying Rubio is a poor son of a only makes Rubio look like he's at the same standard and level as the average joe.

    And 2, Trump is a proud dude. With the ways he's dodging releasing his taxes he's not about to poke the bear. He's always saying how rich he is. if the reason he's delaying it its because he's not as rich, that's an embarrassment for him.

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    Now that would be ironic.

    It would backfire in a few ways. 1, who do you think is supporting him? The poor. Him saying Rubio is a poor son of a only makes Rubio look like he's at the same standard and level as the average joe.

    And 2, Trump is a proud dude. With the ways he's dodging releasing his taxes he's not about to poke the bear. He's always saying how rich he is. if the reason he's delaying it its because he's not as rich, that's an embarrassment for him.
    He doesn't play by the rules of common sense.

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    Word out of Miami is Rubio is a got on the down low but he wasn't too down low about it back in the 90s



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