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    The question is where can we find an athletic rim protecting, pnrolling power forward
    Livio ?

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    Eventually, maybe. If LJC had been here for the past few years, then he would be a candidate. But he's obviously not going to come over and start right away unless he has an awesome training camp.

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    Eventually, maybe. If LJC had been here for the past few years, then he would be a candidate. But he's obviously not going to come over and start right away unless he has an awesome training camp.
    The guy is rail thin, Probably more a 3/4 as opposed to a 4/5. Add in that he has very few skills beyond hustle/athleticism doubt he'll be a significant option.

    I think this is an interesting topic for a slow day.

    I may be a Debbie downer, but I suspect this is Tim's last year. If not, I suspect his role will diminish even further.
    While he is definitely not the player he was 2002->2007 this is the first time that he has seemed significantly worse than the previous year. Not sure about the knee. Tim is still effective, don't get me wrong, but less so. Getting another productive year out of him, seems less likely.
    Unfortunately, not a lot of options out there. The PATFO has surprised me before, they've always been good at realizing they need to upgrade or change. Maybe not as fast as we wish...
    However, next year could be tough.

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    I don't think LJC is too think to be a legit four in today's league. He'd be small for a full-time center, but at the same time, I don't think he'd be too small against small-ball centers. The only issue is that his shooting isn't good enough to play in small-ball. He really needs a reliable three. And for the love of god, he needs to catch the ball better than he did in the SL.

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    I really think the organization still has hopes of getting Ryan Richards over here in an under the radar type move as well as the kid in the dleague at center.

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    I really think the organization still has hopes of getting Ryan Richards over here in an under the radar type move as well as the kid in the dleague at center.
    Richards is another guy who should have been a Spur the same year he was drafted. Dude had talent but lacked direction. Dunno if he would have washed out still, but had he coming over right away, I feel he would be making eight figures a year by now.

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    Richards is still more skilled than anyone on the previous list and is still young. Get him over here now and watch him flourish.

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    Richards is still more skilled than anyone on the previous list and is still young. Get him over here now and watch him flourish.
    Don't become the new PlayBlair/DTxLR, please. Richards needs to come back to the summer league before the RC should even add his number back into his phone.

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    LJC has no skills. And Richards has no motivation, or brains.

    I was preferring someone that had both.

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    LJC has no skills. And Richards has no motivation, or brains.

    I was preferring someone that had both.
    LJC has skill, just not on offense. He has great hands and time from blocked shots and steals, and he's pretty agile. Also seems like a smart guys who knows how the game's supposed to be played on both ends. They can work with a defense-first guy who just doesn't have a lot of offensive polish. Chip can get that shot to be consistent, so it's really just catching that's the concern. But the team needs more defense, especially in the post-Duncan era.

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    LJC has no skills. And Richards has no motivation, or brains.

    I was preferring someone that had both.
    Aren't we picky

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    LJC has skill, just not on offense. He has great hands and time from blocked shots and steals, and he's pretty agile. Also seems like a smart guys who knows how the game's supposed to be played on both ends. They can work with a defense-first guy who just doesn't have a lot of offensive polish. Chip can get that shot to be consistent, so it's really just catching that's the concern. But the team needs more defense, especially in the post-Duncan era.
    When did agility become a skill? And if hes useless on one half of the court, how does that satisfy the need for skills for a starting power forward on a championship team? I know we gotta be cheap.. and creative, and maybe gamble on hope a little... nevermind hes perfect.

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    Richards is pure garbage and his career is way beyond salvation.

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    When did agility become a skill? And if hes useless on one half of the court, how does that satisfy the need for skills for a starting power forward on a championship team? I know we gotta be cheap.. and creative, and maybe gamble on hope a little... nevermind hes perfect.
    Agility certainly is a skill, just like dexterity. Being fast might be genetic, but his ability to move his feet well enough to guard on switches is something the team is sorely lacking from their bigs. I don't think he'd be a starter next year if he comes over. But I do think that he would have been a candidate to start had he been a Spur for the last few years. Dude has talent, and if his jumper is truly back, then he will be able to get minutes right off the bat.

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    Richards is pure garbage and his career is way beyond salvation.
    Like WAY beyond. Probably the biggest example of wasted talent in recent Spurs history.

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    Like WAY beyond. Probably the biggest example of wasted talent in recent Spurs history.
    I'm not sure about the talent part. I haven't watched him too much, obviously ( who has? ), but the only good things I've seen him do were against midgets and a really really low compe ion. Sure, he did seem to have the body type and a soft touch but then a lot of players seem to have great attributes against low compe ion, which would never translate to pro level, let alone NBA level.

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    Richards is pure garbage and his career is way beyond salvation.
    Not sure about that

    28 points 10 rebounds last game
    Averaging 20 and 8.7 in 24 games


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    Richards is pure garbage and his career is way beyond salvation.
    so is his gay soul.

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    I'm shocked that Ian Mahinmi's name hasn't been brought up at all. He's finally looking like a legitimate starting center or first big off the bench. He could replace Duncan's production or back him up at a cheap price, but a decision needs to be made on Diaw or West...
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    I'm shocked that Ian Mahinmi's name hasn't been brought up at all. He's finally looking like a legitimate starting center or first off the bench.
    I brought him up a few threads ago. He's not a bad player. But he's also not going to be a bargain given that he's been starting in Indiana this year and is performing well there. Unless Bird doubles down at playing PG at PF, I assume they'll pony up to keep him.

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    I brought him up a few threads ago. He's not a bad player. But he's also not going to be a bargain given that he's been starting in Indiana this year and is performing well there. Unless Bird doubles down at playing PG at PF, I assume they'll pony up to keep him.
    Myles Turner is looking really promising, and they've been starting him recently. That could play into how much effort they put into keeping Mahinmi.

    Honestly, I think Aldridge is pretty well suited to be a center. Assuming he's fine with playing it, I'd just as rather slide him over to center when Tim leaves and then get a shooting PF who can space the floor.

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    Myles Turner is looking really promising, and they've been starting him recently. That could play into how much effort they put into keeping Mahinmi.

    Honestly, I think Aldridge is pretty well suited to be a center. Assuming he's fine with playing it, I'd just as rather slide him over to center when Tim leaves and then get a shooting PF who can space the floor.
    Unfortunately, Aldridge doesn't seem to want to play a true center role.

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    Seriously. People shouldn't put too much stock into LMA's desire to be a power-forward. Spurs fans should know all about that. PATFO just need to do what they can to get a good big next to him. It can be a four like Sullinger or a five like Gasol. It doesn't really matter. When you have a guy like Aldridge who has center size and PF skill, you don't shoehorn yourself into any one position I could see anyone from Anderson to West to Diaw to Boban starting next to him in 2016-2017, if we're just looking at this current roster.
    Bookmarked for ty take. I hope you don't turn this around and say, "well I said both possibilities ya ya ya...."

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    Anyone debating a PF next to LMA in the starting lineup is a stupid

    I just can't take ya serious with that stupid shiz.

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    Imo you sign a community of low price bigs and you spend however long it takes, during the season, to find the right fit. In this scenario, I like what a poster said about Plumlee and Aldrich, also Hibbert. So you sign one of those three leaving you with enough money to resign Boban. You then draft a big like Onuaku, Hammons, or Ibeh. Also sign livio who adds another defensive big at another position.

    This way you have four shots at finding the best fit. In this scenario, I would like Plumlee, Boban, Hammons, and Livio.

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