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    "That dance ain't new. It ain't nothing
    but the old shuffle-butt." -Oscar

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    Fortunately, nowadays everyone knows ex players' opinions are . A few years ago there would have been articles with quotes from other salty dudes confirming Oscar's opinion. Now - everyone just rolls their eyes.

    If you could send Kawhi back to the 60s/70s and put him on the old man, Oscar wouldn't have been able to catch the ball, let alone get a shot off.

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    they are bored

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    midnightpulp supporting the opinion of these losers

    Oscar Robertson wont even make it.to the D-league in today game.
    What?

    How many times have I said that there's been a massive evolution on the strategy and skill side since Robertson's day, or even the 80's? My only contention is when you think modern athletes are the X-Men or some . There's been very, very marginal to non-existent athletic gains since the days before the lightbulb was invented.

    I also have the opinion that great players can evolve, as we've seen numerous times in all sports history, with players adapting over 15-20 year careers to whatever new demands are placed on them.

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    Steph Curry is 35-52 on shots BEYOND 28 FEET this season. That's 2.02 points per shot. From 5 feet beyond the 3 point line all the way out to 50 feet.

    Yeah. They would have laughed at him in the 80s for shooting that, until they realized they're down 55 points and he's got 70 at the end of 3.

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    Chef Curry is doing so much work ...

    Chuck wants people to deliver cheapshot elbows on screens ...
    Oscar throwing shade ...
    Fellow players tweeting out in amazement that Curry found the "cheatcode"
    2K designers saying that they have change the source code on their game because it punishes gamers for off the dribble shots but curry is destroying the logic of the game by hitting those shots consistently.
    People are flying him up the all-time great lists at faster rate than anyone since LeBron hit his prime
    No one is saying about him winning backtoback MVP's like they ed when Nash did (no one really argued LeBron's)
    He will smash every 3 point record Korver's is just the beginning
    Shameless niccas jumping on the Dubs bandwaagon like they did Mj's bulls in the 90's
    The crowd in Orlando were CHEERING his half-court 3 last night ...

    All of this and remember

    ... Steph had two bum ankles
    ... Took a far below max extension like 3 years ago
    ... People were trying to on him and say Delly locked him up in the finals
    ... More fans here were clowning this dude for Iggy winning finals MVP (why does that matter so much here? WGAF?)
    ... People ing about his mouthpiece and his shimmies
    ... Twolves too 2 Pg's before steph and IF I remember correctly steph was like the 4th PG chosen? Johnny flynn ...

    To all that Steph says shhhhhhh

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    I'm not one of those guys that hates on older generations, but if Steph played in the 60s and 70s he would average north of 40.

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    I'm not one of those guys that hates on older generations, but if Steph played in the 60s and 70s he would average north of 40.
    He wouldn't have because the game wasn't evolved back then

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    Oscar is obviously great in any era, but I hate how salty some of these old farts are about the game today. Jordan does it too.. 90's this and that, the league is soft. Bunch of whiny old men..
    There is some truth to what they are saying. You cannot even touch a player in todays game. There was hand checks and hip checks back then that you cannot even think of doing now. Jordan would avg. 50pts a game with todays rules. Thats just fact niggra.

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    He wouldn't have because the game wasn't evolved back then
    I'm saying if you out current curry in the 60s, not if he grew up in that era

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    Curry is the truth, do not take anything away from him. But! His game is built for todays rules. He would not average as many points or have as high of a percentage made in the 90's. Just sayin. Ive seen it all niggra.

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    lol the PGs he was defending couldn't even dribble a ball with two hands. who the is he to on anything today when he played in the weakest and least complex era of ball ever

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    and if I remember right, scoring barely went up a couple points once hand checking was abolished. people act like it's some mystical defense that perimeter players wouldn't be able to figure out

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    lol the PGs he was defending couldn't even dribble a ball with two hands. who the is he to on anything today when he played in the weakest and least complex era of ball ever
    Now try to critically think and think of how they would be if they were brought up in modern times with modern rules. If you're going to bash the players due to the way the game is played then you have to use that same criteria when seeing how the stars of the 60s would play in this age with proper training and changes to the rules.

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    Now try to critically think and think of how they would be if they were brought up in modern times with modern rules. If you're going to bash the players due to the way the game is played then you have to use that same criteria when seeing how the stars of the 60s would play in this age with proper training and changes to the rules.
    What we are saying is that you cannot guard a player nearly as closely as back then as you can now, that is all. This creates more space to shoot the ball. If a defender could D-up on you with one elbow or a handcheck, its much harder to lose the defender on a dribble or put up a shot. I'm talking about 90's rules, not 60's though. I don't know WTF they did back in the 60's concerning basketball.

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    Look at this killer defense Oscar played against

    highlight reel analysis

    Almost every shot he made was contested. He was handchecked with two hands constantly.

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    highlight reel analysis

    Almost every shot he made was contested. He was handchecked with two hands constantly.

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    Mark Price would average 45 and 15 in today's NBA

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    Compare and contrast with the defense in modern all star games. Watch their feet and hands.

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    highlight reel analysis

    Almost every shot he made was contested. He was handchecked with two hands constantly.
    It's not easy to find full games of Robertson's online. I had a few until a hard drive died on me, and I wasn't impressed by his play. I mean he doesn't look like he's in the same class of player as Chamerlain or Russell, who do look great in the full games I have watched. Also did you just use an allstar game video to compare defenses?

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    It's not easy to find full games of Robertson's online. I had a few until a hard drive died on me, and I wasn't impressed by his play. I mean he doesn't look like he's in the same class of player as Chamerlain or Russell, who do look great in the full games I have watched. Also did you just use an allstar game video to compare defenses?
    So you weren't impressed. Nice opinion but it doesn't tell me much of anything as to how he played.

    I said to compare that ASG with the modern all star game. It does give a good indicator of the baseline defense of the era. The 70s players naturally switched from full sprint to slide and kept their feet wide. Fundamentals. Modern players either mime spreading their feet wide only to bring them together if they do it at all. You constantly see players not down in a stance and getting blown up. Those 70s players all knew how to defend and help on the pnr. Todays game?

    He was an awesome rebounder for a PG regularly challenging forwards and winning. You call him a stat padder. He's a PG. He's not supposed to release generally so as to advance the ball. At least this time your not peddling the notion that they only dribbled with their right hand.

    He was an efficient scorer statistically.

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    Look at this killer defense Oscar played against

    same highlight at 0:34 and 0:56

    its a in 2 minute video and they still had a duplicate

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    and if I remember right, scoring barely went up a couple points once hand checking was abolished. people act like it's some mystical defense that perimeter players wouldn't be able to figure out
    One rule and league wide scoring goes up multiple points? You suck at stat analysis.

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