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    Liberal Saudi journalist Nadine Al-Budair, who lives in Qatar, wrote an article in the Kuwaiti daily Al-Rai in which she observed that the popularity of Donald Trump's anti-Muslim messages is the logical outcome of Muslim aggression against the West.
    She wondered how Muslims would have reacted if Christians had committed suicide bombings among them, or tried to force their faith on them and called on the Muslim world "to be introspective and enact reforms, instead of condemning Western at udes towards it," said MEMRI, the Middle East Media Research Ins ute.
    "Imagine a Western youth coming here and carrying out a suicide mission in one of our public squares in the name of the Cross," wrote Al-Budair. "Imagine that two skyscrapers had collapsed in some Arab capital, and that an extremist Christian group, donning millennium-old garb, had emerged to take responsibility for the event, while stressing its determination to revive Christian teachings or some Christian rulings, according to its understanding, to live like in the time [of Jesus] and his disciples, and to implement certain edicts of Christian scholars…
    "Imagine hearing the voices of monks and priests from churches and prayer houses in and out of the Arab world, screaming on loudspeakers and levelling accusations against Muslims, calling them infidels, and chanting: 'God, eliminate the Muslims and defeat them all.'
    "Imagine that we had provided an endless number of foreign groups with visas, ID cards, citizenships, proper jobs, free education, free modern healthcare, social security, and so on, and later a member of one of these groups came out, consumed by hatred and bloodlust, and killed our sons on our streets, in our buildings, in our newspaper [offices], in our mosques and in our schools.
    "Imagine a Frenchmen or a German in Paris or Berlin leading his Muslim neighbor [somewhere] in order to slaughter him and then freeze his head in an ice box, in a cold and calculating manner... as one terrorist did with the head of an American in Riyadh years ago.
    "Imagine that we visited their country as tourists and they shot at us, blew up car bombs near us, and announced their opposition to our presence [there] by chanting: 'Remove the Muslims from the land of culture.'
    "These images are far from the mind of the Arab or Muslim terrorist because he is certain, or used to be certain, that the West is humanitarian and that the Western citizen would refuse to respond [in this manner] to the barbaric crimes [of the Muslim terrorists]. Despite the terrorist acts of Al-Qaeda and ISIS, we [Muslims] have been on [Western] soil for years without any fear or worry. Millions of Muslim tourists, immigrants, students, and job seekers [travel to the West] with the doors open [to them], and the streets safe [for them]."
    "However, how much longer [will this last]? Today things are different. [Western] anger [at Muslims] is apparent, and they make scary declarations. One who recently championed [these views] is Donald Trump, who demanded to bar Muslims from entering the US.
    "It is strange that we [Muslims] believe we have the right to condemn such statements rather than address the implications of some of our extremist curricula, our education, and our regimes, and be ashamed [of them]... It is strange that we condemn [the West] instead of addressing what is happening in our midst - the extremist ways in which we interpret the shari'a and our reactionary at udes towards each other and the world. It is strange that we condemn instead of apologizing to the world.
    "How would you react if a European blew up a theater in your city or a café that your son frequents? What would you do if you heard curses against your religion and faith every Sunday, as they hear [against theirs] from some of our imams on Fridays and other days?
    "Imagine being in Amsterdam, London, or New York and knowing that students [there] learn as part of their curricula that you are an infidel, and that killing you is jihad that leads to the virgins of paradise. Would you extend your stay there to the end of the summer, or stay away? [Would you] blow yourself up [as the Muslim terrorists do], or would you do less than that: [Merely] conquer your rage and demand to ban Christians from entering Arab countries. What would you do?
    "[Imagine] the war that would break out had Westerners shed their values in the face of the bloody crimes committed by foreigners, and if Western or Christian counter-radicalism had emerged in our Arab cities?
    "After all these farces, some Arab analyst comes out touting a pathetic message, and reciting the same words in his friend's ear that he has repeated millions of times: 'Those [Muslims who commit terrorism] do not represent Islam, but only themselves.'
    "This is all we [know how to do] – absolve [ourselves] of guilt."

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/208551

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    lol christian suicide bombings, dumb . they'd blow em up but not by suicide.

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    moral relativism from the same simpleton as always.

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    moral relativism from the same simpleton as always.
    Did you even read the article? She's asking Muslims to put the shoe on the other foot.

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    lol christian suicide bombings, dumb . they'd blow em up but not by suicide.
    She's sexy as .

    picture here http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentar...lowing-muslims

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    we do blow up muslims.

    but we have the luxury of not calling it terror.

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    Did you even read the article? She's asking Muslims to put the shoe on the other foot.
    Look up moral relativism. Do you really think your comment deduces what I am saying?

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    we do blow up muslims.

    but we have the luxury of not calling it terror.
    Salafists (AQ AN etc) are trying to reprise the Ayyubid caliphate. Any action to do so outside of Sharia parliamentary implementation is deemed terrorist and even then its still typically categorized that way anyway. The jihadi mujahideen movement is a reprisal of Ottoman warrior society replete with the beards, rifles, group organization, etc. the janissary slave soldiers could only wear moustaches not beards.

    I'm fine with blowing them up just like I'm fine with them lighting up the Davidians and the Bundys. For me it's simple if you take up arms to try and force your god delusion then I support overwhelming reprisal.

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    When Jewish terrorists blew up Christians, the Christians gave them their own country.

    And as mentioned, Christians have been blowing up Muslims for decades.

    Pro tip: If you want people to read what you post, don't put it in bouton's Borowitz font.

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    Look up moral relativism. Do you really think your comment deduces what I am saying?
    Psssst.....I'm on ignore

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    When Jewish terrorists blew up Christians, the Christians gave them their own country.

    And as mentioned, Christians have been blowing up Muslims for decades.

    Pro tip: If you want people to read what you post, don't put it in bouton's Borowitz font.
    Refusing to read an article because of font and I didn't put it in any particular font that's how it pasted.

    Are you referring to our military blowing up Muslims for decades?

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    Refusing to read an article because of font
    If you don't care to make it legible, why should anyone care to read it?
    and I didn't put it in any particular font that's how it pasted.
    You put it up in that font.

    Are you referring to our military blowing up Muslims for decades?
    Western, mostly Christian military, yes. Then add to that the general ery by western powers in the middle east since WWI, it could make for some terrorists.

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    If you don't care to make it legible, why should anyone care to read it?You put it up in that font.

    Western, mostly Christian military, yes. Then add to that the general ery by western powers in the middle east since WWI, it could make for some terrorists.
    I have no clue what you are talking about regarding the font, looks fine to me right now. Mind taking a screenshot? I literally copy/pasted from the article, don't know if my phone does some weird altering I'm not aware of.

    Ive never heard anyone refer to the US military as Christian. Has the US military been bombing these Muslims in the name of Christ?

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    Here is how it shows up for me


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    I have no clue what you are talking about regarding the font, looks fine to me right now. Mind taking a screenshot? I literally copy/pasted from the article, don't know if my phone does some weird altering I'm not aware of.
    It copied the font. On a laptop, it is much smaller than the default.

    Ive never heard anyone refer to the US military as Christian.
    Do you think they people who control the military are atheists?
    Has the US military been bombing these Muslims in the name of Christ?
    Don't need to. The Muslims end up just as dead.

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    Here is how it shows up for me

    You don't have font packs on your phone browser. If you edit your post you will see all the formatting that shows up elsewhere.

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    It copied the font. On a laptop, it is much smaller than the default.

    Do you think they people who control the military are atheists?Don't need to. The Muslims end up just as dead.
    Huh never knew that bout the font.

    it doesn't matter what the religious makeup of our military leaders are as I'm sure it's all over the board, including atheists. Our military does not kill in the name of religion. You are missing the whole point of her commentary if you are trying to argue our military killing Muslims (in the name of Christ) is the same as Muslims killing Christians in the name of allah

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    Huh never knew that bout the font.

    it doesn't matter what the religious makeup of our military leaders are as I'm sure it's all over the board, including atheists.
    The military is controlled by civilians.
    Our military does not kill in the name of religion. You are missing the whole point of her commentary if you are trying to argue our military killing Muslims (in the name of Christ) is the same as Muslims killing Christians in the name of allah
    I'm saying dead is dead. The people being killed don't have the luxury of writing editorials. They don't see a rainbow coalition of faiths in western militaries killing them.

    The huge irony here is seeing "israelnationalnews.com" -- Israel was born out of terrorism. It just worked for them so they don't have to do it anymore. Good for them.

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    we do blow up muslims.

    but we have the luxury of not calling it terror.

    beat me to it

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    The part where she mentioned extremist teachings of Islam is pretty ironic to me considering we're major financial contributors to one of the biggest Arab countries that teaches them: Saudi Arabia.

    We can't be serious about and we won't be taken seriously in, tackling Islamic Extremism if we're buddy-buddies with the worst offender of Islamic Extremism there is. Of course, our unconditional support of Israel only ignites and enables it. And there's always the pre-emptively, unprovoked barbarity Wahhabists.

    That said, the religion, except for Wahhabists--of which in practice & in the truest sense of the word there aren't that many that are bombing places--is a vehicle, disguised as religion, but based way more heavily on the Arab sentiment that the Arab-Muslim world has been under too much Western control/influence for the last 3/4 century. It's an ethnic war justified by religion. It's reactionary for the most part.

    When are we going to help ourselves by staying the out of that backwards hole? Let 'em rot and stay in the Middle-Ages.

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    2/3 of the world's muslims believe sharia law to be valid. we stopped with that after the civil war although since WW2 it's started to pick back up again.

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    ing Christian terrorism is how and why you xenos got this country. Terrorism is ALL RIGHT when its ALL WHITE.

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    Whites in the western world are a "put upon" people. Held to higher standards than those their own liberals excuse barbaric behavior from, their religious and cultural iden y mocked and derided at every turn, their borders left unguarded at the behest of Jewish interests. There is, indeed, a great deal they are willing to put up with from the people's of the world, especially the sons of Jehovah.

    What when the dam of forbearance breaks?

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