ESPN: Spurs Emerging as Favorites to Sign Kevin Martin

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

I would have cut Bonner over McCallum on the off chance that two of Parker, Mills and Miller got hurt or the even less likely possibility of Ray playing well enough to become an asset as an RFA next year.

Ray just didn't have the IQ to play in the Spurs system. That was my observation back in the preseason, which is why I was surprised the Spurs cut Jimmer over him. I just came to the summation that the Spurs kept Ray b/c he was younger and more athletic. With that said, I don't think Jimmer would have made a huge impact either this year, but I thought he was the better prospect to develop over Ray, just my opinion. Because if you look at the preseason tape, Jimmer was better than Ray, by a lot to be honest. Spurs have Manu and Anderson who can still handle the ball, along with Diaw. Ray's playmaking abilities were the worse on the team TBH.

I like the Miller pickup. The guy is a Great passer and will fit right in the Spurs system. Spurs have KA/Parker/Miller/Mills/Manu/Simmons at the guard option. That is not bad depth at this point.

[SpursFan86]

11 pages over ing Kevin Martin

Looks perfectly reasonable compared to the ing 125+ page thread dedicated to Jimmer Fredette

[baseline bum]

Looks perfectly reasonable compared to the ing 125+ page thread dedicated to Jimmer Fredette

That's just some dumbass trolling though. Martin was never even back in his Sacramento days.

[coachmac87]

Signing Martin is a no brainier. That's even if we cut Butler to get him..

Martin has his flaws but he's somebody who can drop 20pts any given night and that's huge coming off the bench. This team needs scorers more than anything right now and that's exactly what he is. There's zero risk in signing Martin..

I'd expect and prefer Bonner to get cut but if you're seriously choosing Rasual Butler over Kevin Martin you're a ing idiot and even more of one if you're also second guessing the Spurs FO decisions

[Chinook]

Signing Martin is a no brainier. That's even if we cut Butler to get him..

Martin has his flaws but he's somebody who can drop 20pts any given night and that's huge coming off the bench. This team needs scorers more than anything right now and that's exactly what he is. There's zero risk in signing Martin..

I'd expect and prefer Bonner to get cut but if you're seriously choosing Rasual Butler over Kevin Martin you're a ing idiot and even more of one if you're also second guessing the Spurs FO decisions

Thanks, Coach.

[Mel_13]

Thanks, Coach.

[benefactor]

has to be done by Tuesday because he has to be on the roster by Wednesday to be playoff eligible which is the only reason you do this.

The Wolves have to submit a waiver request by the time the league offices close tomorrow afternoon, IIRC. If that is done, he can be signed at any time before the end of the season and still be eligible for the playoffs.

[SpursFan86]

Chinook

Out of curiosity, what was your opinion of the Belinelli signing? Seems like Martin last year looked at least as good as Belinelli looked his last year in Chicago, and if Martin did come here, he'd likely be playing the same role as Belinelli did (although hopefully Pop wouldn't play Martin instead of Green like he did with Belinelli).

I don't think Martin is a very good player, but this team is sorely lacking in 3-point shooting. Martin is a career 38-39% 3-point shooter on respectable volume. Shot 40% on catch-and-shoot 3's last season. He's horrible defensively, but I have a hard time imagining him being any worse than Belinelli.

If the Spurs can replace Bonner with Martin, you do that for sure IMO. If he plays well for the rest of the regular season, give him 10-15 minutes a night in the playoffs. If he looks like , only use him in garbage time or when everyone else is ting the bed. Regardless, I think Martin making an impact in the playoffs is more likely than Bonner doing so.

[$pursDynasty]

Signing Martin is a no brainier. That's even if we cut Butler to get him..

Martin has his flaws but he's somebody who can drop 20pts any given night and that's huge coming off the bench. This team needs scorers more than anything right now and that's exactly what he is. There's zero risk in signing Martin..

I'd expect and prefer Bonner to get cut but if you're seriously choosing Rasual Butler over Kevin Martin you're a ing idiot and even more of one if you're also second guessing the Spurs FO decisions

Good point most of my memories of Martin were his failed attempt to replace Harden at OKC, that being said he is the type of player you need more of come playoff time a 2/3 that can score than a stretch 4, even tough three point shooting is at a premium, I am not sure Bonner is useful in a Dubs series.

[NASpurs]

F5

MEH.

F5

MEH.

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[look_at_g_shred]

If martin was as ty as alot of people are claiming, the spurs wouldn't be wanting to sign him. He obviously adds something to the team that we need and the FO recognizes that. Simmons and Butler don't offer the same offensive production.

[will_spurs]

Anybody calling him a "borderline All-Star" is insane, though..it's 2016..

When I said he was a borderline All-Star I was looking back at his career, obviously not right now. But that was in the context of the discussion when I wanted to point out he already got paid in his prime and he's not after a paycheck right now.

[Boogie Munster]

So can we reserve spots on the river walk already for the championship parade?

[coachmac87]

Thanks, Coach.

Seriously convince me why any team would take Rasual Butler over Kevin Martin?

[Mel_13]

If martin was as ty as alot of people are claiming, the spurs wouldn't be wanting to sign him. He obviously adds something to the team that we need and the FO recognizes that. Simmons and Butler don't offer the same offensive production.

Actually, there's no compelling evidence that the Spurs have any interest at all. Just some twittering attributed to 'sources'.

[$pursDynasty]

If martin was as ty as alot of people are claiming, the spurs wouldn't be wanting to sign him. He obviously adds something to the team that we need and the FO recognizes that. Simmons and Butler don't offer the same offensive production.

but what production does Bonner give us, period? Besides corporate knowledge which he can share from the coaching side of the bench or front office. Let's just say Anderson, Simmons or especially Butler don't give us much it is still way more than Bonner has given us this season so if anyone must go it is him. He will still get his ring for this season should we win one, no place for sentimentality now.

[look_at_g_shred]

Actually, there's no compelling evidence that the Spurs have any interest at all. Just some twittering attributed to 'sources'.

you're probably right.

[benefactor]

If martin was as ty as alot of people are claiming, the spurs wouldn't be wanting to sign him. He obviously adds something to the team that we need and the FO recognizes that. Simmons and Butler don't offer the same offensive production.

Pop has always had a soft spot for chuckers. Seems like that part of the Don Nelson influence always stuck with him.

[coachmac87]

Pop has always had a soft spot for chuckers. Seems like that part of the Don Nelson influence always stuck with him.

No. Pop always had something for a player who isn't afraid and has balls. Give me a player who thinks he's better than he really is over a player who's unsure if he even belongs...

[look_at_g_shred]

Perhaps I just want it to be true. Is just my opinion but I want Martin on the roster.

[HarlemHeat37]

No. Pop always had something for a player who isn't afraid and has balls. Give me a player who thinks he's better than he really is over a player who's unsure if he even belongs...

I'm fine with Martin as a deep bench guy, but if you're looking for a with balls, it's not him..he's as soft as they come..

[benefactor]

No. Pop always had something for a player who isn't afraid and has balls. Give me a player who thinks he's better than he really is over a player who's unsure if he even belongs...

...what? Bonner literally only had one skill and Pop treated him like his long lost son for years. Gary Neal didn't make the team because he showed any kind of balls...it's because he shot and made a bunch of threes. Pop loves gunners and chuckers...maybe not as starters, but he's always had a one or two buried on the bench.

[coachmac87]

I'm fine with Martin as a deep bench guy, but if you're looking for a with balls, it's not him..he's as soft as they come..

You missed my point.

Of course you'd be fine to have a potentially 20pt scorer to come off the bench..whether he's the sixth or tenth man. He has upside as a scorer and his strengths is this teams weakness right now. It makes sense for the Spurs to be interested even if it's for cutting Butler.

[Chinook]

Seriously convince me why any team would take Rasual Butler over Kevin Martin?

Butler is a better player. Should be a simple as that, really.

[coachmac87]

Butler is a better player. Should be a simple as that, really.

Prove it