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    so we cut Ander and have the best of both worlds for any given situation, too. Kawhi/Green/Manu/Martin/Butler/Simmons is a great wing rotation
    We cut Bonner tbh.

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    coachmac87.... this is embarrassing

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    Why the do you keep saying this? There is absolutely zero confirmation that they are interested or would cut Butler to add him.
    I'm arguing that he's a better player than Butler

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    Damn. I guess the Spurs FO doesn't have access to that...

    Wow maybe they don't know what they're doing...and posters on ST do?
    They apparently didn't with Jimmer. Keep sticking with your logical fallacies, btb.

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    coachmac87.... this is embarrassing
    It must be. Might as well create my "going away thread".

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    We cut Bonner tbh.
    What if we have to face OKC in the 2nd round. Like I said, Diaw isn't going to pull Ibaka out of the paint. Diaw just pump fakes a ghost, takes a few dribbles in and passes back out tbh.

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    I'm arguing that he's a better player than Butler
    But you don't have the support that you're asserting you do. Nothing about the Spurs possibly being interested in Martin means they want to cut Butler for him. So you aren't making a cogent argument. You're just spewing butt-hurt and misused appeal to authority fallacies all over this page.

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    They apparently didn't with Jimmer. Keep sticking with your logical fallacies, btb.
    Jimmie was a low risk. Just like signing Martin would be a low risk. Or trading a 2nd for Ray. All low risk with potential high rewards.

    You can disagree with me all you want. But Spurs have interest in Martin...

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    Jimmie was a low risk. Just like signing Martin would be a low risk. Or trading a 2nd for Ray. All low risk with potential high rewards.
    None of that means people can't second-guess PATFO.

    You can disagree with me all you want. But Spurs have interest in Martin...
    I'm not disagreeing that there's a report of interest out. I'm not even asserting they aren't interested. But that doesn't mean Martin is a good player.

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    What if we have to face OKC in the 2nd round. Like I said, Diaw isn't going to pull Ibaka out of the paint. Diaw just pump fakes a ghost, takes a few dribbles in and passes back out tbh.
    Spurs won't be benching Duncan or LMA for Bonner, so it's a moot point.

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    Butler has been a mentor to Anderson and Simmons, off the court, which is also a valuable trait, in addition to his solid on-court play, tbh..I dunno, I can't really see the Spurs cutting him when he's been such a class guy, so far, seems like a non-Spurs move..


    If somebody gets cut, it has to be Bonner, at this point..all jokes aside, his injury seems serious, and he already looked finished as a player, last year..

    Moot point, though, since this is all speculation..Martin may not even get bought out, and the Spurs may not actually be interested..

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    But you don't have the support that you're asserting you do. Nothing about the Spurs possibly being interested in Martin means they want to cut Butler for him. So you aren't making a cogent argument. You're just spewing butt-hurt and misused appeal to authority fallacies all over this page.

    It comes down to 2 players Butler or Bonner. I'd cut Bonner over him but Id also cut Butler if it meant getting Martin.

    Some people on this board wouldn't. Some think Butler is a better player. I disagree.

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    Spurs won't be benching Duncan or LMA for Bonner, so it's a moot point.
    They can't play 48 minutes. D-Worst is unplayable against OKC, particularly if Diaw is also in the game. That leaves Boban and Bonner... I love Boban but I'm afraid guys would run circles around him.

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    Has Woj confirmed this?

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    It comes down to 2 players Butler or Bonner. I'd cut Bonner over him but Id also cut Butler if it meant getting Martin.

    Some people on this board wouldn't. Some think Butler is a better player. I disagree.
    That's fine, but you have zero evidence that the FO supports your view about Martin and Butler. That's only an issue because you're trying to say they do. And even if they did, that's not evidence that Martin is actually better than Butler. It's just an example of a logical fallacy.

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    None of that means people can't second-guess PATFO.



    I'm not disagreeing that there's a report of interest out. I'm not even asserting they aren't interested. But that doesn't mean Martin is a good player.

    I'm not saying Martin is a good player. But neither is Butler. Teams aren't scared of Butler or have to honor anything he brings to the court.

    Martin dropped 37 this year. That's called upside...you can take chance on that if you can..even if it means cutting the well liked 14th man on the bench

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    ...But you don't give him a rotation spot. The idea that he's getting 10-15 MPG is absurd to me, though I could totally see it happening.
    If for some reason we get K-Mart and Pop "absurdly" decides to give him a rotation spot (10-15mpg), what can we make from all of this? That Pop lost his mind?

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    They can't play 48 minutes. D-Worst is unplayable against OKC, particularly if Diaw is also in the game. That leaves Boban and Bonner... I love Boban but I'm afraid guys would run circles around him.
    Bonner would get manhandled worse than West ever would trying to guard Penis Cancer, and West would have a much better chance abusing his awful defense in the post.

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    I'm not saying Martin is a good player. But neither is Butler. Teams aren't scared of Butler or have to honor anything he brings to the court.

    Martin dropped 37 this year. That's called upside...you can take chance on that if you can..even if it means cutting the well liked 14th man on the bench
    And that's fine. But you get no support from that report of interest. If you liked Martin over Butler, no one is going to fight you. We'll disagree, because Martin sucks. But that's your opinion.

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    I'm not saying Martin is a good player. But neither is Butler. Teams aren't scared of Butler or have to honor anything he brings to the court.

    Martin dropped 37 this year. That's called upside...you can take chance on that if you can..even if it means cutting the well liked 14th man on the bench
    Even if I agreed with your valuation of Martin v. Butler, I would still second guess the FO if they kept Bonner over Butler.

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    If for some reason we get K-Mart and Pop "absurdly" decides to give him a rotation spot (10-15mpg), what can we make from all of this? That Pop lost his mind?
    Yep. Wouldn't be the first time.

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    Has Woj confirmed this?
    Waiting on Wojtek tbh

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    Bonner would get manhandled worse than West ever would trying to guard Penis Cancer, and West would have a much better chance abusing his awful defense in the post.
    even AnusCancer could block West's shot. He's probably like 7 inches taller than West, too. At least Bonner tries to impede big guys' attacks at the rim. West, on the other hand, is the French government to any offensive player's Hitler.

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    I'm not saying Martin is a good player. But neither is Butler. Teams aren't scared of Butler or have to honor anything he brings to the court.

    Martin dropped 37 this year. That's called upside...you can take chance on that if you can..even if it means cutting the well liked 14th man on the bench
    This tells me you don't watch too much of the actual games. Butler is probably the 2nd best man-to-man defender on this team after Kawhi. Butler is a very good defender and a decent offensive player. Martin vs. Butler defense is like night and day. And just for the record, I value shut down defense over chunking offense anyday of the week.

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    Butler has deceptive athletic ability and really is the third best rim protactor after Tim and Boban. Nice weapon to have.

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