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    Oregon Gov. Kate Brown signed legislation Tuesday to make the state's minimum wages the highest in the country, implementing a gradual, three-tier plan balancing the needs of Oregon's sharply divided urban and rural areas, an unprecedented model that might address concerns from wage-raise skeptics in other states.

    Hourly wage increases will begin in July and continue until 2022, slowly raising Portland paychecks from $9.25 to $14.75 per hour, smaller cities to $13.50, and rural areas to $12.50. Previously, Massachusetts and California were home to the nation's highest minimum wages. Both states implemented a $10 law on January 1, amid a three-year "Fight for $15" debate about the rising cost of living.

    The law "makes sense for workers and for businesses no matter where in Oregon they are," Governor Brown told reporters before signing. "I’m so pleased to sign a bill that represents the innovative and collaborative spirit of Oregon."
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    What happens to the person making 15.25?

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    What happens to the person making 15.25?
    They probably start pushing to move wages even higher. For themselves. Wage growth in that bracket has been for 30 years.

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    I wonder if places like Nike, Flir, Tektronics, Intel, etc. will relocate?

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    I wonder if places like Nike, Flir, Tektronics, Intel, etc. will relocate?
    C'mon down to Florida. No state income tax, 6% sales tax, beautiful weather, DisneyWorld, South Beach, assessed property capped at 3% increase for property tax, sound state pension system.

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    What happens to the person making 15.25?
    they get a raise.

    the anti-inequality strategy of raising (doubling) the Fed minimum wage is to push up salaries of everybody. Real household income has been stagnant since St Ronnie and his assholes got power in 1980. There are $Ts of stolen wages to be recovered.

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    I wonder if places like Nike, Flir, Tektronics, Intel, etc. will relocate?
    How many minimum wage employees does each have?

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    How many minimum wage employees does each have?
    Starting is probably double minimum, but prices will go up, and if minimum doubles, employees will want double what they now have.

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    How many minimum wage employees does each have?
    Not sure that matters...it's the upward pressure across the board that will be created that's at play here.

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    Not sure that matters...it's the upward pressure across the board that will be created that's at play here.
    Yep.

    It will make Oregon products more expensive than other places in the nation. This will reduce sales and jobs.

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    WC, inserting ideological wishcasting in place of empirical analysis.

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    Yep.

    It will make Oregon products more expensive than other places in the nation. This will reduce sales and jobs.
    Is why $15 must be Federal. Not local

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    Starting is probably double minimum, but prices will go up, and if minimum doubles, employees will want double what they now have.
    lol double

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    Not sure that matters...it's the upward pressure across the board that will be created that's at play here.
    If Nike headquarters moves to Frisco, WC can claim scoreboard.

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    Hamburger flippers will make $15.00/hr, then?

    A little high IMO. Isn't ~$12.00/hr how it was back in the day accounting for inflation?

    I'm all for raising the minimum wage to levels that allow people living off of it to meet life's most basic needs--sustenance, shelter/rent, phone bill, healthcare--but saying the hamburger flipper guy makes it to 30 hrs/week & and has a second job bagging groceries where he gets another 30, then hamburger flipper/grocery baggger guy makes ~$2,500 a month & $30,000/yr. At 30,000/yr he'll likely be able to purchase a nice fat big flat screen T.V. along with who knows what else. It seems kind of ridiculous.

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    It was 3.30 when I was a teen.

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    It was 3.30 when I was a teen.
    LOL...

    Closer to half that when I first started working.

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    It was 3.30 when I was a teen.
    LOL...

    Closer to half that when I first started working.
    TOSBs

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    Hamburger flippers will make $15.00/hr, then?

    A little high IMO. Isn't ~$12.00/hr how it was back in the day accounting for inflation?
    why should people work 2,3 jobs, 60 - 70 hours/week, just make $30K/year, in your approach. What kind of ing life is that? Is that The American Dream?

    And 90% of those people will NOT move up, over their entire lives, and finish their lives in poverty. American upward mobility is now less than it is in Western Europe, where govt actually help, protect people from the BigCorp/1%

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    why should people work 2,3 jobs, 60 - 70 hours/week, just make $30K/year, in your approach. What kind of ing life is that? Is that The American Dream?

    And 90% of those people will NOT move up, over their entire lives, and finish their lives in poverty. American upward mobility is now less than it is in Western Europe, where govt actually help, protect people from the BigCorp/1%
    Because when you choose the work those and other professions, it should come at the expense of certain things. Quality of life should be one, as it incentivizes education & self-improvement. 60 hrs/week isn't ridiculous IMO.

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    LOL...

    Closer to half that when I first started working.
    So you started working in the late 60's? That's when minimum wage was at its highest in terms of real value.
    http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth484/minwage.html


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    This is an interesting test.

    There are a lot of variables StAte to State, and current economic climate will have some impact as well. But at least it's better than the tired old lines of the zealots on both sides who claim they know exactly what the impact will be. Cause they don't...

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    Because when you choose the work those and other professions, it should come at the expense of certain things. Quality of life should be one, as it incentivizes education & self-improvement. 60 hrs/week isn't ridiculous IMO.
    How do you raise a kid working 60 hours a week?

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    So you started working in the late 60's? That's when minimum wage was at its highest in terms of real value.
    http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth484/minwage.html

    Early 70's.

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    How do you raise a kid working 60 hours a week?
    If people are irresponsible enough to have kids they can't afford, they should have their tubes tied in exchange for subsidies so they can't burden society with more subsidies in the future.

    They should be ashamed of themselves. I would expect them to work 80 hrs a week if needed, because they deserve that for their irresponsibility.

    They are losers. Not because they are poor, but because they feel en led for other people to subsidize them.

    I am sick of the losers in this country!

    Now of course, there are exceptions. People who had good income and had bad luck. Not many of those on subsidies fit that category though.

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