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  1. 03-05-2016 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Cruz is a terrible candidate for a number of reasons, and him getting the nomination would be probably as damaging to the GOP as Trump... he's a spoiled brat that takes the ball home when he doesn't get his way. Basically, another authoritarian in that respect.

    Him actually winning these states sucks, because even if he doesn't win the nomination, it empowers him to continue being a ty Senator.
    Cruz is an extremely intelligent man, and I think he'd run a much stronger campaign than trust fund Donald who would just be the same shouting asshole he has been in the primary season. He'll do like W and play the compassionate conservative role and talk a lot about Jesus, though he probably won't do it as well as Bush did since Bush was a likable person (albeit terrible leader).
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    Rubio shouldn't have sunk to Trump's level with the personal attacks - looks like he's losing some of his conservatives to Cruz. He's getting killed in today's states.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    Cruz is an extremely intelligent man, and I think he'd run a much stronger campaign than trust fund Donald who would just be the same shouting asshole he has been in the primary season. He'll do like W and play the compassionate conservative role, though he probably won't do it as well as Bush did since Bush was a likable person (albeit terrible leader).
    Cruz's personality just isn't likable. I don't see him doing better in a general election than Trump who might get some independents/disenfranchised democrats. Cruz has no hope at those - too hardline.
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    Trump up 5.5 points in Kentucky, though it's early as (9% in).
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    Got to ask Reck if he thinks little Marco is finished

    Has there ever been a candidate who might put all their chips in a brokered convention like Rubio and Kasich?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmt
    Cruz's personality just isn't likable. I don't see him doing better in a general election than Trump who might get some independents/disenfranchised democrats. Cruz has no hope at those - too hardline.
    He is an extremely strong debater though, at least if the debate is above the level of talking about size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    He is an extremely strong debater though, at least if the debate is above the level of talking about size.
    Not aggressive enough to take advantage of Hillary's closet skeletons, though. Cruz also has twisted the truth a lot with Trump in debates, Hilary would call him out instead of just calling him a liar
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    Maine is really slow Cruz's lead has been shrinking there, wonder how it'll look with 20%+ reporting
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    He is an extremely strong debater though, at least if the debate is above the level of talking about size.
    Trump is socially liberal - not so hardline on abortion, Planned Parenthood, gay marriage, etc. as Cruz. To me, Trump has done well in the debates considering both Cruz and Rubio (very good debaters) are after him. How do you think Hillary would do in a debate vs Trump? I just can't imagine what it'd be like - she's not faced the kind of hostility going on on the repub side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch
    Not aggressive enough to take advantage of Hillary's closet skeletons, though. Cruz also has twisted the truth a lot with Trump in debates, Hilary would call him out instead of just calling him a liar
    That's gonna be all on the table with Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmt
    That's gonna be all on the table with Trump.
    Pretty much, Trump will avoid any and all policy talk - the debates will be pretty ing entertaining
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmt
    That's gonna be all on the table with Trump.
    Hillary and Bill will play just as dirty
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmt
    How do you think Hillary would do in a debate vs Trump? I just can't imagine what it'd be like - she's not faced the kind of hostility going on on the repub side.
    I don't know, they're pretty similar people. Both textbook politicians, very skilled lawyers, and can't trust a thing that comes out of either's mouth. If either had the charisma of Bill this election would be long over already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    He is an extremely strong debater though, at least if the debate is above the level of talking about size.
    He has zero style points though... which really, is all that matter in the dog and pony show that's TV debates. His gnome voice probably turns off 20% of the electorate as it is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by baseline bum
    I don't know, they're pretty similar people. Both textbook politicians, very skilled lawyers, and can't trust a thing that comes out of either's mouth. If either had the charisma of Bill this election would be long over already.
    What? Trump isn't a lawyer or textbook politician. Do you mean Cruz? Trump's got charisma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch
    Got to ask Reck if he thinks little Marco is finished

    Has there ever been a candidate who might put all their chips in a brokered convention like Rubio and Kasich?
    He's pretty much done in a race like this. He has no legit shot.

    But Cruz is actually doing him a favor by closing the gap on Trump. Republicans dont like Cruz either so if this goes to a brokered convention, both of them will get the stick up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reck
    He's pretty much done in a race like this. He has no legit shot.

    But Cruz is actually doing him a favor by closing the gap on Trump. Republicans dont like Cruz either so if this goes to a brokered convention, both of them will get the stick up.
    It would be pretty dumb to shove rubio down out throats (), republican voters will abstain or vote for status quo hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmt
    What? Trump isn't a lawyer or textbook politician. Do you mean Cruz? Trump's got charisma.
    Cruz
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    He has zero style points though... which really, is all that matter in the dog and pony show that's TV debates. His gnome voice probably turns off 20% of the electorate as it is...
    That's true, but it's not like Hillary's double chin and crazy old lady makeup are going to win her any style points either.
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  20. 03-05-2016 #45
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    I did not exptect Trump to be losing this badly tonight.

    Romnney's speech actually worked.
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    Bernie winning Kansas, I wonder if he sees the irony in losing to Hillary in the primaries but having a much better chance against the GOP in general
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    My democrat prediction was right on cue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reck
    I did not exptect Trump to be losing this badly tonight.

    Romnney's speech actually worked.
    Romney didn't do anything imo, I think the Kansas polls were misleading and nobody really had anything to go by for Maine. You can't really give that guy credit for turning +6 Trump to +25 Cruz

    This is a loss for everybody but Rubio since his only chance is a brokered convention and Cruz should have won Kentucky being part of his bible belt strategy.
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    Cruz probably got Carson's votes too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch
    Bernie winning Kansas, I wonder if he sees the irony in losing to Hillary in the primaries but having a much better chance against the GOP in general
    He will get wax in the next super Tuesday.

    He will lose, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina. Pretty much all of them. I dont see where he wins any of them states.

    Florida and Ohio are swing states as well.
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