Stein: Free agent guard Kevin Martin has agreed to join the San Antonio Spurs

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Release will likely come tomorrow morning sometime. I'm starting to lean towards it being Simmons.

If this does happen, people better not meltdown, simmons isnt gonna be the difference between a le or not, just like Bonner and Rasual wont be. Its really not a big deal.

[ceperez]

If this does happen, people better not meltdown, simmons isnt gonna be the difference between a le or not, just like Bonner and Rasual wont be. Its really not a big deal.

I would like to think that Spurs value the long term development of their players. Simmons still has opportunity to improve.

Bonner and Rasual are both end of career players.

What is interesting is Spurs played Bonner a lot more against the Kings.

What the fans do not know is whether Bonner is actually doing much better in practice. It is one of those hidden variables that we are all blind to.

Also, we are talking here the 15th player in the lineup. Even if the player isn't cut, it has to be someone who gets inserted in special case situations.

The call really will be about who is best against GSW. Spurs can beat any team without the services of Bonner or Rasual. However, I think Spurs need to be able to cover small ball situations and clearly Rasual is the better candidate for that.

[cd98]

Spurs are a business. If someone is better and available, than anyone on the roster may be cut.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I would like to think that Spurs value the long term development of their players. Simmons still has opportunity to improve.

Bonner and Rasual are both end of career players.

What is interesting is Spurs played Bonner a lot more against the Kings.

What the fans do not know is whether Bonner is actually doing much better in practice. It is one of those hidden variables that we are all blind to.

Also, we are talking here the 15th player in the lineup. Even if the player isn't cut, it has to be someone who gets inserted in special case situations.

The call really will be about who is best against GSW. Spurs can beat any team without the services of Bonner or Rasual. However, I think Spurs need to be able to cover small ball situations and clearly Rasual is the better candidate for that.

Simmons upside isnt as good as what everyone is saying, he is a high effort, low skill kind of guy, he will never be anything more than a bench guy

[cd98]

Simmons is the same age as Jimmer. He's an old rookie...he likely won't be much better than what you see. But that has been good at times. He's a bench guy in the NBA as long as he has his athleticism, but he probably won't be in the NBA at 32.

[ceperez]

Simmons upside isnt as good as what everyone is saying, he is a high effort, low skill kind of guy, he will never be anything more than a bench guy

so are you saying Bonner or Rasual have an upside? They've always been bench guys their entire career.

[ceperez]

Simmons is the same age as Jimmer. He's an old rookie...he likely won't be much better than what you see. But that has been good at times. He's a bench guy in the NBA as long as he has his athleticism, but he probably won't be in the NBA at 32.

Bonner is 35.... 20th oldest player
Butler is 36.... 12th oldest player

[Spurs 4 The Win]

so are you saying Bonner or Rasual have an upside? They've always been bench guys their entire career.

No, im just saying, the idiots here shouldnt cry if he gets cut because he isnt gonna develop into some badass like a lot of people here are predicting. He is a very average bench player with the potential to be a slightly above average bench player.

[tholdren]

I would like to think that Spurs value the long term development of their players. Simmons still has opportunity to improve.

Bonner and Rasual are both end of career players.

What is interesting is Spurs played Bonner a lot more against the Kings.

What the fans do not know is whether Bonner is actually doing much better in practice. It is one of those hidden variables that we are all blind to.

Also, we are talking here the 15th player in the lineup. Even if the player isn't cut, it has to be someone who gets inserted in special case situations.

The call really will be about who is best against GSW. Spurs can beat any team without the services of Bonner or Rasual. However, I think Spurs need to be able to cover small ball situations and clearly Rasual is the better candidate for that.

One would hope that Simmons doesn't get moved. Who's to say if he would or wouldn't make a difference in the playoffs. YOU NEED ENERGY PLAYERS.

As far as the other comment goes - practice - as a fan it doesn't matter to me if he's the best practice player in the history of time. If you get on the court, and don't make use of your time on the court during the game, it doesn't matter. Bonner has been on the team for years, for some reason. He may be a great guy, with a killer twitter following, but Im not a fan for social media reasons. Always look for a better player than your worst player on the bench. Replace and repeat. ITS A BUSINESS.

[ceperez]

One would hope that Simmons doesn't get moved. Who's to say if he would or wouldn't make a difference in the playoffs. YOU NEED ENERGY PLAYERS.

As far as the other comment goes - practice - as a fan it doesn't matter to me if he's the best practice player in the history of time. If you get on the court, and don't make use of your time on the court during the game, it doesn't matter. Bonner has been on the team for years, for some reason. He may be a great guy, with a killer twitter following, but Im not a fan for social media reasons. Always look for a better player than your worst player on the bench. Replace and repeat. ITS A BUSINESS.

We need players that can help against Curry. I don't see how Butler or Bonner help in that department. At best Butler can cover Livingston, Igoudola or even D. Green. Bonner can't cover any of the 3.

[cd98]

Bonner is 35.... 20th oldest player
Butler is 36.... 12th oldest player

Sure but that has nothing to do with my post. I'm just saying that what you see is what you get with Simmons. He's not likely to get much better. I'm not advocating cutting him, but I'm saying Anderson has room to get better given his age. Simmons is old so he won't get much better than what he is now and will only get less athletic over the next 4 years.

[cd98]

We need players that can help against Curry. I don't see how Butler or Bonner help in that department. At best Butler can cover Livingston, Igoudola or even D. Green. Bonner can't cover any of the 3.

Bonner has played big minutes against Thunder as a stretch 4. Gotta beat Thunder before you can beat GSW. Not saying Bonner won't get cut, but I don't think it's an easy call either.

[ViceCity86]

lmao I didnt even know this guy was still in the league

I didn't know Lakers were in the league too.

[spurtech09]

So when will Martin be in the line-up?

[BillMc]

I didn't know Lakers were in the league too.

[gambit1990]

k mart has played with the kings, the rockets, the thunder, and the timberwolves.

has he played with any current member of the spurs before? other than andre. i doubt it off the top of my head, just wondering.

[tholdren]

I don't think so - I don't know if you even count his playing time with Miller this year.

[cutewizard]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...ence/81354414/

[Russ]

ESPN thinks he's already on the Spurs:

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2394/kevin-martin

[spurtech09]

ESPN thinks he's already on the Spurs:

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2394/kevin-martin

Any news on when he will sign....

[exstatic]

I would'nt be shocked if Pop drops the ax on Simmons, tbh..

I thought about this too. Maybe give him the Danny Green speech and tell him to keep working on his game and they will bring him back next season.

Simmons is the same age as Jimmer. He's an old rookie...he likely won't be much better than what you see. But that has been good at times. He's a bench guy in the NBA as long as he has his athleticism, but he probably won't be in the NBA at 32.

I'm always amazed at the way people totally undersell the Spurs development program. Neal was ing 25 when he got here, and is still in the league at 31.

[spurraider21]

I'm always amazed at the way people totally undersell the Spurs development program. Neal was ing 25 when he got here, and is still in the league at 31.

jeff ayres

[exstatic]

jeff ayres

[currently playing for the #4 seed Clippers]

[spurraider21]

[currently playing for the #4 seed Clippers]

no he isn't

he had two 10-day contracts and they didn't renew after that


jeff ayres

[dabom]

I bet you are fun at parties.