No argument to be made. Martin > Butler.
But it just doesn't make sense why they'd let Simmons walk...when neither Butler or Bonner have pretty much ZERO chance of making a difference next year. While Simmons has upside even though it could be limited
It's not about "needs". Bonner is corporate, big, and still potentially useful down the road. Butler was signed with the playoffs in mind, and I don't see the spurs leaving him on the side of the road like that. Simmons is at the same time too young and too old, brings little now and has little upside. I say Simmons gets cut.
A guy like Simmons is still too wet behind the ears and will ride the bench throughout the playoffs due to his inexperience. Pop won't be scared to use guys like Bonner and Butler in the playoffs if he needs to use them for whatever situation arises their need to be on the court. If the team is really in a "win now" mode, then Simmons becomes expendable.
Simmons has produced more than both Butler and Bonner combined this year. Yes as of RIGHT NOW Simmons seems to be in the dog house but it's not like Butler has been amazing. He's been "ok" at best.
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Simmons is already 26 years old. What upside does he have at this point? If he was around the same age as Kyle, I wouldn't mind keeping him on the team. And if it was between Butler and Simmons, I trust Butler more.
A 26yr old player has more upside than ANY 35yr old player. Age isn't the factor with Simmons upside. It's his inexperience..
The team is in win mode now. Butler can contribute more now than Simmons can.
My vote is for:
Bonner (if what we've seen is it)
Simmons
Butler
If Bonner is healthy and no lingering issues:
Simmons
Butler
Bonner
Well that's why they're signing Martin. People are literally freaking out over inactive players. Simmons can still bring value this year and next year...something you can't say about Bonner or Butler
The dude is older than Ibaka (reportedly) is.
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
They should seriously pickup Matty if we release him. Yeah, he's not playoff eligible but the rest of the season could be an extended tryout. He's better than Ayres and may finally give them some of the outside shooting they never seem to have.
If Simmons gets cut its going to be because he didn't work hard enough of to become a better player. Whether that's listening to coaching orders, player development or lack of being a pro. It's not going to be because of his talent.
So what. Doesn't mean he can't get better..Age only factors in your peak of production window.
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I mean, it doesn't. Is that what you tell your players? Simmons can totally get better. But he's not likely to get appreciably better in terms of his mechanics. And even if he does, it's not like the end result is anything but a rotational wing. The dude didn't even dominate the d-league. His talent is overrated.
Simmons just doesn't seems like a player who'd be in a Spurs uniform for more than a season or half a season. I think he's getting cut.... Pop loves vets an both Bonner an Butler are vets... Everyone says the Spurs window is now, so I don't see Pop getting rid of experience over talent for yrs down the line/a project in Simmons.
Can't wait for the lineup of: LMA, Kawhi, Green, Martin, Manu
Man coach and #ceperez are going to melt down hard when Simmons gets the axe.
Looks like we'll be hearing something fairly soon...
You just don't get it. Instead of mocking me try to listen to what I'm saying.
There's nothing wrong being a rotation wing.
Spurs have the player development coaching to improve his mechanics and I would expect it to happen this summer. But the kid may not love the game and may not enjoy the hard work to become a better player. Not everybody does..
Simmons has the physical tools. It's what the Spurs has seen and it's what everybody's seen since he's been here. He just needs more time and the experience he's got this year will be huge for him. Spurs just can't afford to have him learning on the fly anymore right now..
But at the same time it doesn't mean you cut him and lose his rights. I'm intrigued to see what Chad and Chip can do over the summer with Simmons but like I said earlier..the guy may not have the drive in him.
If I were an NBA player, I'd be afraid of #ceperez. Every player he bandwagons doesn't last on the Spurs (Gary Neal, Austin Daye, Simmons etc.)Man coach and #ceperez are going to melt down hard when Simmons gets the axe.
I won't lose sleep over it. You can bet he's going straight to Brooklyn though if he isMan coach and #ceperez are going to melt down hard when Simmons gets the axe.
Not for me. No sleep till Brooklyn.
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