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    Shhhh... I'll be gentle. TheDoctor's Avatar
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    Made good rotations, played hard his studs but:

    Can't shoot for the team (4-28 3ptFG).
    Can't make layups for the team.
    Can't make 5ft bunnies for the team.

    Spurs players left arguably 20pts in there ^

    Game.

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    Only thing I didn't agree with was Manu in for Mills. Should have put Miller in for the time being. I understand he's new to the team, but might as well throw him into the fire to learn a few things.

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    Shhhh... I'll be gentle. TheDoctor's Avatar
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    Only thing I didn't agree with was Manu in for Mills. Should have put Miller in for the time being. I understand he's new to the team, but might as well throw him into the fire to learn a few things.
    Could be. But frankly I bet Pop would have done the same.

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    IDK, I'd say for most part of the game but the last plays...Also, the Spurs lost the ball or take a bad shot after every timeout called by him.

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    The good: He benched Manu to have us go on a 10-2 run in the 4th

    The bad: He brought Manu back in

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    Yeah he told them to keep shooting threes instead
    Getting closer
    Could have tried miller

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    Shhhh... I'll be gentle. TheDoctor's Avatar
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    ...Also, the Spurs lost the ball or take a bad shot after every timeout called by him.
    Extra lazy passes but hat tip to Indy because they played super hard D, specially the lines. But we make 3 more treys and a couple of bunnies and this game was ours.

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    Made good rotations, played hard his studs but:

    Can't shoot for the team (4-28 3ptFG).
    Can't make layups for the team.
    Can't make 5ft bunnies for the team.

    Spurs players left arguably 20pts in there ^

    Game.
    There wasn't much to do to combat that.
    I wanted to see some boban instead of Diaw. At least Boban could make a basket, but OTOH they might feel like Boban will give up more on the other end. It's an enigma.

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    Admittedly I only tuned in for about 9 minutes of the 4th quarter, when Messina used eight guys. Box score seems to show he really shortened his rotation on a night when most of the core was having an off-night. I doubt Pop could have refrained from experimenting more to try to find a player or line-up that was more efficient. Kawhi and LMA don't ever log this many minutes. Kyle apparently only played in the first half, and Boban didn't even get in the game. Seems like Messina's rotations and general game-management were questionable.

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    Admittedly I only tuned in for about 9 minutes of the 4th quarter, when Messina used eight guys. Box score seems to show he really shortened his rotation on a night when most of the core was having an off-night. I doubt Pop could have refrained from experimenting more to try to find a player or line-up that was more efficient. Kawhi and LMA don't ever log this many minutes. Kyle apparently only played in the first half, and Boban didn't even get in the game. Seems like Messina's rotations and general game-management were questionable.
    I wonder to what degree Pop prescribed a minutes allocation .. but I suspect if there was one, it was the absolute max, bc it seems Messina played his best guys the max (Kawhi,LMA, Manu 20 minutes considering his long layoff I consider the max minutes for him at this point).

    He wanted to win this one and didn't want to chance it with unknowns is my opinion. The 10 minutes Kyle played were strict Kawhi relief. It wasn't anything experimental or anything either like Pop has done with Kyle recently.

    He definitely was very consdervative. Pop has lately been a lot more experimental with lineups, guys he uses, and how he uses them and if one unit or one guy started bad off the bat he would yank that guy right out, as we have seen him do with Tony and others recently.

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    I disagree. We shot the ball bad, so why not let Butler have a shot? That is what he is there for. Also Kyle was playing great and didn't get enough run in the second. He was playing under control, breaking down the D, and rebounding in traffic. Ellis torches Green since I can remember, and instead of maybe switching Leonard and Green around to mark George and Ellis, he later on puts Mills on him. At least give Simmons a go. Also, down 3 I am not sure what his play was. He made no defensive changes that I could see either.

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    I disagree. We shot the ball bad, so why not let Butler have a shot? That is what he is there for. Also Kyle was playing great and didn't get enough run in the second. He was playing under control, breaking down the D, and rebounding in traffic. Ellis torches Green since I can remember, and instead of maybe switching Leonard and Green around to mark George and Ellis, he later on puts Mills on him. At least give Simmons a go. Also, down 3 I am not sure what his play was. He made no defensive changes that I could see either.
    Didn't want to play Butler because you look like an idiot if he is a difference-maker and you cut him tomorrow.

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    I disagree. We shot the ball bad, so why not let Butler have a shot? That is what he is there for. Also Kyle was playing great and didn't get enough run in the second. He was playing under control, breaking down the D, and rebounding in traffic. Ellis torches Green since I can remember, and instead of maybe switching Leonard and Green around to mark George and Ellis, he later on puts Mills on him. At least give Simmons a go. Also, down 3 I am not sure what his play was. He made no defensive changes that I could see either.
    Frankly, to make a run why not simply bench Diaw who was ghastly bad and just put Kyle at the 4, and get a more perimeter lineup with Kawhi in there. Pop hasn't been shy mixing Kyle up in different lineups specially when Boris isn't giving you anything. Doesn't even have to be a long stretch if you don't want to get him exposed or anything. We have seen Kyle start games at the 4... He grabbed more rebounds and boxed out!
    My goodness Messina really didn't try to shake the tree in this one to see what fell out.

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    Didn't want to play Butler because you look like an idiot if he is a difference-maker and you cut him tomorrow.
    Butler wasn't in uniform.

    It was Boban, Andre Miller and Simmons.

    Frankly I thought maybe Butler or Bonner should have been there to see if they could hit a 3.

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    [QUOTE=tbdog;8465913]I disagree. We shot the ball bad, so why not let Butler have a shot? That is what he is there for. Also Kyle was playing great and didn't get enough run in the second. He was playing under control, breaking down the D, and rebounding in traffic. Ellis torches Green since I can remember, and instead of maybe switching Leonard and Green around to mark George and Ellis, he later on puts Mills on him. At least give Simmons a go. Also, down 3 I am not sure what his play was. He made no defensive changes that I could see either.[/

    Both Butler and Bonner were in street clothes tonight, weren't they?

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    Both Butler and Bonner were in street clothes tonight, weren't they?
    Yes they were.
    Man I thought we could have used one of them.

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    I expect the Spurs to win every game (because they are capable of beating anyone) but that's unrealistic. This was a let down but they're human and happens. When the cat's away, the mice will play. Pop not being there played a factor imo. Next.

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    Made good rotations, played hard his studs but:

    Can't shoot for the team (4-28 3ptFG).
    Can't make layups for the team.
    Can't make 5ft bunnies for the team.

    Spurs players left arguably 20pts in there ^

    Game.


    Leonard and Aldridge were . Amazing they had a shot at the end of the game at all.

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    Pop lost 9 games. Messina has some catching up to do.

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    Leonard and Aldridge were . Amazing they had a shot at the end of the game at all.
    They looked disinterested.

    One note about Kawhi: When he's going to attack, he's as steady as anyone in the league, but when that decision time comes he has no idea what to do, still. He still defers instead of taking over the game when we all know he could have just taken over the game.

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    Wait, what happened to pop??? Missed the game or got thrown out???

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    Luke Walton woulda won us the game tbh

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    They looked disinterested.

    One note about Kawhi: When he's going to attack, he's as steady as anyone in the league, but when that decision time comes he has no idea what to do, still. He still defers instead of taking over the game when we all know he could have just taken over the game.
    PG did an awesome job on Kawhi, if anything I was hoping for a little more out of LMA in the rare game that Kawhi is out of sorts.

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    He was pretty much a subs ute teacher. He didn't lose the game, but he also did almost nothing to win it. I'm not willing to close the book on him because of this game, but it didn't mitigate my reluctance about him, either.

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