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I am more than happy to have Mel_13 explain it to you while I sleep.
Good point. If there had been a choice he would have been wise to choose the Grizz for that reason, but he was on his way back to Austin when the Grizzlies signed him.
I am more than happy to have Mel_13 explain it to you while I sleep.
The money wasn't the same. He got his first two years guaranteed with Memphis. That wasn't going to happen with the Spurs.
LCC was actually completely correct in his interpretation.
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After negotiating new terms on a deal, JaMychal Green and the Spurs couldn't reach agreement and will part, league sources tell RealGM.
2:29 PM - 27 Jan 2015
Shams Charania ✔ @ShamsCharania
After negotiating new terms on a deal, JaMychal Green and the Spurs couldn't reach agreement and will part, league sources tell RealGM.
2:29 PM - 27 Jan 2015
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2015/...reen-part-ways
DPG's post from the Green thread last year:
Sportac's breakdown of Green's contract:
Seeing as the Spurs stashed their pick they were so keen to make space, there's very little reason to doubt that they rejected the idea of guaranteeing that second year.JaMychal Green signed a 3 year / $1,959,785 contract with the Memphis Grizzlies, including $979,354 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $653,262. In 2015-16, Green will earn a base salary of $845,059. Green has a cap hit of $845,059 while his dead money value is $845,059.
The Spurs didn't reject him. He rejected their offer and got a better one from Memphis. He made about a million more dollars by NOT re-signing with the Spurs. And I assume that was something he and his agent were banking on when they turned SA down. And I wouldn't be surprised if that's why the team guaranteed Simmons' first year immediately.
I'd rather have Bonner. Green is a locker room cancer.IN' BONNER!!!!!!!
Trolling? Curious.
Thanks for the longer answer, but that pretty much means that the Spurs said no thanks. Glad Green got a chance to stick somewhere, but it wasn't going to be in San Antonio.
Spurs had much bigger plans. That was to have a lot of cap room to negotiate for Aldridge.
Notice how Simmons was signed only after everyone else was signed. Spurs wanted that flexibility.
Spurs mistake of course was to call him up and not be able to deliver on the contract they wanted. The should have never called him up and hope other teams overlook his skills (like Simmons).
another player that got waived instead of Bonner...
Green is turning into a solid player. Good for him. Guy has worked hard. Would love for him to be on the Spurs, but I doubt he is the reason the Spurs win or lose a championship.
Yes. They said no thanks to guaranteeing him on a two year deal, which inevitably was his market value. Just like they said "no thanks" to Joseph for similar reasons. It didn't mean that they didn't want either player, or either player wasn't "good enough" to "play" for them, but they weren't in a position to pay market value based upon reserving cap space for Aldridge.
If he or Joseph would have accepted min deals, they would have both played. You being nice is just a transparent stick save. Trying to turn a loss into a draw, moving the goal posts, etc.
It's nothing personal. You can be mean or nice. Whatever. But, the notion that he wasn't good enough to play here has been squarely refuted by two other quality posters you also disregard, so there's not much point in me discussing it any further. The goal posts have already been moved to "He's not good enough to play here on a TWO YEAR GUARANTEED DEAL DURING THE SPURS PURSUIT OF A MAX FREE AGENT." That goal post doesn't seem worth arguing. But, it wasn't the original sentiment of your complaint about him.
Technically it sounds like they both said no. Green to the contract offered by the Spurs, then the Spurs to the counter offer from Green. So everyone is right and we can join virtual hands and sing Kumbaya.
I don't anything good has ever come from adults joining hands and sing Kumbaya.
Just my opinion....
During Memphis winning streak, the guy was avg like 10 ppg and 7 rpg. in like 25-27 minutes per contest. Grizz are 8-4 w/ him in the starting lineup. Guy would have been a great player coming off the bench.
Like people mentioned, he probably felt he was done developing and went to the team that would give him more minutes to get in game experience. But don't kid yourself that the Spurs had to let people slip through the cracks b/c of Bonner. I like Bonner, but IMO, his time with the Spurs should be over after this year. It's time to bring on Bertans to replace his old nonathletic ass.
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I don't think it was an issue with keeping Bonner or not. It was about guaranteeing more than a year's worth of contract. That was something the Spurs could not do.
Remember, Ayres was not signed. Bonner had to get a new contract. That contract was after everyone else was signed.
...and stated so articulately.
I didn't think Bonner was a factor, as he seems to have his name engraved into the roster. I don't like Bonner, but it never occurred to me that the front office would consider giving his spot to Green, as I'm sure it never occurred to them.
Nah he played in my hometown. Guy is always getting into fights with players/coaches. It could be tolerated if he was a superstar but....
21/10 against Anthony Davis
Pop did a good thing by sending him on his way. Ryan Anderson guarded him for the majority of the game also.21/10 against Anthony Davis
abusing the turd towers. Shooting like it's his home court.
Still not as bad as trading away Paul George.
Spurstalk inside joke.......
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