NBA: Mudiay vs. The Bust

[midnightpulp]

Last 5 games -

Mudiay: 21.6ppg, 6.4apg, 4.6rpg, .458FG%, .440 from 3 ()

D'Bust: 20.6ppg, 4.8apg, 2.4rpg, .416FG%, .342 from 3

And Mudiay won their head-to-head matchup.

Russell is still the more polished scorer, but Mudiay does everything else better and is a step up athletically, and if he develops of jumper (which it looks like he's doing), he'll be the best PG to come out of his draft class.

I have D'Bust (begrudgingly) as my rookie PG of the year, but Mudiay is right on his heels. It will come down to whether or not he can develop a shot.

Mitch didn't blow it yet (although he did blow it by not picking Big Oak or Porz), but it'll be interesting to track these two next year. Hopefully Mudiay explodes and we can drive another stake through that franchise's heart.

[Killakobe81]

Oak is a moot point and i aint even sold on Porzy 100% but i agree if the Lakers didnt take Russ porzy would have been a good gamble or Turner.
So far only one sure fire stud in this draft ... Kat. I think the guys i mentioned plus mudiay hezonja and Booker will all be high quality starters and potentially fringe allstars but will ANY become all nba caliber? even 3rd team? Only one i feel sure of is KAT tbh.
But glad you finally let that bone go still dont know why so many stoll blind worship oak. Great post game no doubt but the kner soreness off court and just a failure to dominate give me pause. Turner seems to show me some things i dobt see in Oak. But we will see.

[midnightpulp]

Oak is a moot point and i aint even sold on Porzy 100% but i agree if the Lakers didnt take Russ porzy would have been a good gamble or Turner.
So far only one sure fire stud in this draft ... Kat. I think the guys i mentioned plus mudiay hezonja and Booker will all be high quality starters and potentially fringe allstars but will ANY become all nba caliber? even 3rd team? Only one i feel sure of is KAT tbh.
But glad you finally let that bone go still dont know why so many stoll blind worship oak. Great post game no doubt but the kner soreness off court and just a failure to dominate give me pause. Turner seems to show me some things i dobt see in Oak. But we will see.

Oak was in stride before the injury. You also can't be results oriented and use hindsight bias when a player gets injured. Oak was the safer and better pick at 2 than Russell. That said, neither are centerpieces since both can't play defense. Porz actually leads all rookies in DRPM and is in the top ten among PFs.

[Bynumite]

Why do you do this to yourself mid?

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That rent free thingy.

[Bynumite]

Besides, Russell's last 5 games include the Cavs, Warriors and Hawks.

Mudiay's last 5 games include the Knicks, Lakers, Nets and Suns, 4 of the top 5 worst teams in the league

[Buddy Mignon]

Last 5 games -

Mudiay: 21.6ppg, 6.4apg, 4.6rpg, .458FG%, .440 from 3 ()

D'Bust: 20.6ppg, 4.8apg, 2.4rpg, .416FG%, .342 from 3

And Mudiay won their head-to-head matchup.

Russell is still the more polished scorer, but Mudiay does everything else better and is a step up athletically, and if he develops of jumper (which it looks like he's doing), he'll be the best PG to come out of his draft class.

I have D'Bust (begrudgingly) as my rookie PG of the year, but Mudiay is right on his heels. It will come down to whether or not he can develop a shot.

Mitch didn't blow it yet (although he did blow it by not picking Big Oak or Porz), but it'll be interesting to track these two next year. Hopefully Mudiay explodes and we can drive another stake through that franchise's heart.

Lol... nice cherry pick, got. You dare to compare Russells numbers against the top 5 rookies since all-star break? Oak is done for the season... bad at ude and all.

[Buddy Mignon]

Last 5 games -

Mudiay: 21.6ppg, 6.4apg, 4.6rpg, .458FG%, .440 from 3 ()

D'Bust: 20.6ppg, 4.8apg, 2.4rpg, .416FG%, .342 from 3

And Mudiay won their head-to-head matchup.

Russell is still the more polished scorer, but Mudiay does everything else better and is a step up athletically, and if he develops of jumper (which it looks like he's doing), he'll be the best PG to come out of his draft class.

I have D'Bust (begrudgingly) as my rookie PG of the year, but Mudiay is right on his heels. It will come down to whether or not he can develop a shot.

Mitch didn't blow it yet (although he did blow it by not picking Big Oak or Porz), but it'll be interesting to track these two next year. Hopefully Mudiay explodes and we can drive another stake through that franchise's heart.

And also... why are you using these old fashioned stats that will render Kobe as nothing more than a useless chucker and not those upgraded advanced stats when comparing these two?

[Kawhitstorm]

Oak is a moot point and i aint even sold on Porzy 100%

Zingis got badly outplayed by Jokic, dude has been ass the past 2 wks while #7/#13 picks are ballin' out of control.

[Kawhitstorm]

You dare to compare Russells numbers against the top 5 rookies since all-star break?

Mudiyaaaaaaa: 2-0 vs. #2 & #4 picks

[Killakobe81]

Oak was in stride before the injury. You also can't be results oriented and use hindsight bias when a player gets injured. Oak was the safer and better pick at 2 than Russell. That said, neither are centerpieces since both can't play defense. Porz actually leads all rookies in DRPM and is in the top ten among PFs.

In stride? He was having a net negative results on the lineups that included he and Noel even when he was putting up big scoring numbers. I am not saying he is not a good player but Spur fan acting like he was stud we whiffed on. Not only did we have Russell rated higher so did Philly. So no one is using hindsight bias. I already admitted I was eaning Oak before the draft ...because you are right he was the "safer" pick. So was Mudiay. Lakers were looking to gamble on Russ or Porzy and chose Russ. And I get why. You don't ...oh well.

Porzy seems to have hit a wall. I dont think he is as good as he looked for a stretch or as ty as he is playing now. But all these guys are rookies. Like i have been saying all year to early to really say anything definitive except that KAT will be the best player of this group and that russ is not a bust. Everything else has pretty much went as expected. Booker has also been scoring well lately too. Draft class seems very strong just not many legit superstars.

[RsxPiimp]

Zingis got badly outplayed by Jokic, dude has been ass the past 2 wks while #7/#13 picks are ballin' out of control.

Agree


Matter of fact, forget about D'Angelo and Mudiay for a minute. Devin Booker is just killing it in Phoenix.


Rookie guards over the past 5 games:

•Booker 28.4 ppg /49 fg% / 36% 3fg / 5 apg / 3 rpg
•Mudiay 21.6 ppg / 46 fg% / 44% 3fg / 6.4 apg / 4.6 rpg
•Russell 20.6 ppg / 42 fg% / 34% 3fg/ 4.8 apg / 1.6 spg




Overall this draft is shaping up us as one of the best since 2003. Miami had a pretty good draft, Josh Richardson is such a steal, reminds me of Clarkson. Jokic is no joke (no pun) You got Cauley Stein, Winslow and don't sleep on Stanley Johnson and Hezonja. I think they'll blow up in their sop re seasons.

[Spurs9]

Agree


Matter of fact, forget about D'Angelo and Mudiay for a minute. Devin Booker is just killing it in Phoenix.


Rookie guards over the past 5 games:

•Booker 28.4 ppg /49 fg% / 36% 3fg / 5 apg / 3 rpg
•Mudiay 21.6 ppg / 46 fg% / 44% 3fg / 6.4 apg / 4.6 rpg
•Russell 20.6 ppg / 42 fg% / 34% 3fg/ 4.8 apg / 1.6 spg




Overall this draft is shaping up us as one of the best since 2003. Miami had a pretty good draft, Josh Richardson is such a steal, reminds me of Clarkson. Jokic is no joke (no pun) You got Cauley Stein, Winslow and don't sleep on Stanley Johnson and Hezonja. I think they'll blow up in their sop re seasons.

All 3 guys are going to be good players. Probably out of the 3 right now I would chose Booker though, I really like his game. Just wish he wasn't on such a bad team.

[LkrFan]

Besides, Russell's last 5 games include the Cavs, Warriors and Hawks.

Mudiay's last 5 games include the Knicks, Lakers, Nets and Suns, 4 of the top 5 worst teams in the league

midnightpulp conveniently left that part out.

[midnightpulp]

Besides, Russell's last 5 games include the Cavs, Warriors and Hawks.

Mudiay's last 5 games include the Knicks, Lakers, Nets and Suns, 4 of the top 5 worst teams in the league

Who's the starting PG of that team?

[LkrFan]

D'Bust > Mudfoot.

[Medvedenko]

What about the last 10 games there mid?

[Galileo]

Its pretty obvious that when Mudiay develops even a half-way decent jump-shot, he will be a beats and routine all-star. Can't say that for D'Bust.

[Buddy Mignon]

Its pretty obvious that when Mudiay develops even a half-way decent jump-shot, he will be a beats and routine all-star. Can't say that for D'Bust.

Really? We're going to vote Russ in the allstar next year.

[midnightpulp]

And also... why are you using these old fashioned stats that will render Kobe as nothing more than a useless chucker and not those upgraded advanced stats when comparing these two?

I still have Russell as the better player right now, primarily because his metrics are better. Mudiay's season long awful shooting have killed his metrics.

But now it looks like Mudiay's jumper is coming around, and if that continues, Mudiay will move past Russell as the best PG of this class.

[HemisfairArena]

That rent free thingy.

OP makes a thread and laker fans come runnin',,,,6 laker fans out of the gate responding quickly. You're right on livin' rent free,,,you're just wrong on who's gettin' played,,,

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OP makes a thread and laker fans come runnin',,,,6 laker fans out of the gate responding quickly. You're right on livin' rent free,,,you're just wrong on who's gettin' played,,,

That rent free thingy.

[Splits]

Really? We're going to vote Russ in the allstar next year.

Want to bet another $1000 on that one?

[LkrFan]

Want to bet another $1000 on that one?

Don't do it son. Remember, Jim got in the ASG with 13/8. D'Bust is at 13.5/3.5/3.5 as a rook. His numbers are sure to go up from there.

[Silver&Black]

Don't do it son. Remember, Jim got in the ASG with 13/8. D'Bust is at 13.5/3.5/3.5 as a rook. His numbers are sure to go up from there.

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