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    tbh.. OKC is a mediocre team..

    It's not a surprise Spurs beat them.. The only team that worth the salt should be Warriors.

    If Parker sucks against Warriors, then Pop should take him out early

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    Here's my question: do you think we're beating GS with Parker scoring 20 and giving up 20 on the other end? I think this season is about defense for us. It might not be enough against a historical team like GS, but well, they're historical for a reason.
    Patty is an even worse defender than Parker. Patty also doesn't make opposing PGs work like Tony, since he's not a penetrator.

    I actually wouldn't mind Manu running point for significant minutes, and going "big," but then you remove our primary bench asset.

    I'm not behind Tony because I'm a "fan," I just see no alternative. You saw how bad the offense was tonight with him relegated/playing poorly, and OKC is a pretty poor defensive team. 90-100 points won't be enough to beat GS. Without Tony being on the radar as a "threat," the Spurs offense becomes even easier to stop. Contain LMA and/or Kawhi, and you win.

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    Patty is an even worse defender than Parker. Patty also doesn't make opposing PGs work like Tony, since he's not a penetrator.

    I actually wouldn't mind Manu running point for significant minutes, and going "big," but then you remove our primary bench asset.

    I'm not behind Tony because I'm a "fan," I just see no alternative. You saw how bad the offense was tonight with him relegated/playing poorly, and OKC is a pretty poor defensive team. 90-100 points won't be enough to beat GS. Without Tony being on the radar as a "threat," the Spurs offense becomes even easier to stop. Contain LMA and/or Kawhi, and you win.
    Spurs missed like 15 open 3s, bro..

    I haven't said a bad word about Parker in like 9 months, tbh..I've made multiple threads about how well he has played, this season, too..I just don't think he's reliable enough to have a designated role as the "3rd guy" anymore..

    When he has his legs and everything is going well, then he should absolutely play the role of a top option, but the consistency isn't there anymore..

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    Really worried about the inconsistency behind Kawhi/LMA..it is basically a drought/deluge type of contribution from the rest of the roster..If one of Aldrige/Kawhi has a bad scoring night, we're toast..

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    Patty is an even worse defender than Parker. Patty also doesn't make opposing PGs work like Tony, since he's not a penetrator.

    I actually wouldn't mind Manu running point for significant minutes, and going "big," but then you remove our primary bench asset.

    I'm not behind Tony because I'm a "fan," I just see no alternative. You saw how bad the offense was tonight with him relegated/playing poorly, and OKC is a pretty poor defensive team. 90-100 points won't be enough to beat GS. Without Tony being on the radar as a "threat," the Spurs offense becomes even easier to stop. Contain LMA and/or Kawhi, and you win.
    I dont think he's worse, plus he made some big rebounding plays in the 3rd.

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    Spurs missed like 15 open 3s, bro..

    I haven't said a bad word about Parker in like 9 months, tbh..I've made multiple threads about how well he has played, this season, too..I just don't think he's reliable enough to have a designated role as the "3rd guy" anymore..

    When he has his legs and everything is going well, then he should absolutely play the role of a top option, but the consistency isn't there anymore..
    Totally agree with this.. Tonight West and Bobo (in a limited sense) came true..

    I think Pop also realise this

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    Patty is an even worse defender than Parker. Patty also doesn't make opposing PGs work like Tony, since he's not a penetrator.

    I actually wouldn't mind Manu running point for significant minutes, and going "big," but then you remove our primary bench asset.

    I'm not behind Tony because I'm a "fan," I just see no alternative. You saw how bad the offense was tonight with him relegated/playing poorly, and OKC is a pretty poor defensive team. 90-100 points won't be enough to beat GS. Without Tony being on the radar as a "threat," the Spurs offense becomes even easier to stop. Contain LMA and/or Kawhi, and you win.
    I don't know who's the worse defender tbh, against those top teams... It's about hiding them. Patty just gives you a different look, spacing the floor. I don't disagree that it would be nice to have 2012/13 Tony, but he's not there anymore, and he won't be IMO. This is what we have now.

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    Pop has low key given up on Boris tbh.
    Frankly I am kind of sad about that Boris is one of my favorite players and he's lost minutes depending on the matches to D West, Anderson, and Butler who is not even on the team.

    It's beyond concerning. I still love his game but again only 9 minutes this game. That's as much as Anderson played and he gave up some if his minutes to Kmart.

    I agree with EVAY. I think Boris has reached a stage where he has to take better care of his body like the big 3 have to keep up his production and hasn't. He's still a very unselfish player whose passing and intelligence is still there but he labors to score and has declined defensively.

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    The resident re s will somehow find a way to place the blame on the Parker

    Turns out you were right. Anyone who blames tonight's win on Parker is a re .

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    Been offering a live podcast discussion about Parker to midnightpulp but he wont budge. Like it or not, This team doesnt have a third option..Everything is by committe after Leonard and Aldridge

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    Been offering a live podcast discussion about Parker to midnightpulp but he wont budge. Like it or not, This team doesnt have a third option..Everything is by committe after Leonard and Aldridge
    I thought you haven't set it up yet.

    if Parker does indeed get absorbed into the "committee," then we have no chance in at winning a le. Scoring by committee just requires too many moving parts to be in sync at the same time. Hopefully Duncan and Manu perk up in the playoffs, and then I'll shut up about Parker being the 3rd guy.

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    The spurs won a championship by committee just two years ago.

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    I thought you haven't set it up yet.

    if Parker does indeed get absorbed into the "committee," then we have no chance in at winning a le. Scoring by committee just requires too many moving parts to be in sync at the same time. Hopefully Duncan and Manu perk up in the playoffs, and then I'll shut up about Parker being the 3rd guy.
    They are 55 and 10 with him being part of the committee. The perfect recipe to win against GSW is slow and star dependant so I have no idea why you want to move away from a recipe desinged to beat GSW

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    Don't think that post-Feb 1 split is sustainable in the playoffs on similar efficiency when defenses key on both LMA/KL..another guy need to step up for this team, somebody who may not qualify as exactly a bonafide third option (18-20 PPG), but one who can contribute 13-14 PPG on regular basis..

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    I thought you haven't set it up yet.

    if Parker does indeed get absorbed into the "committee," then we have no chance in at winning a le. Scoring by committee just requires too many moving parts to be in sync at the same time. Hopefully Duncan and Manu perk up in the playoffs, and then I'll shut up about Parker being the 3rd guy.
    Disagree. As long as the Spurs have two guys along with Kawhi/LMA playing great offensively, they can get by GS provided the defense remains true. The problem is keeping the shooting consistent, which has been a problem all season.

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    Don't think that post-Feb 1 split is sustainable in the playoffs on similar efficiency when defenses key on both LMA/KL..another guy need to step up for this team, somebody who may not qualify as exactly a bonafide third option (18-20 PPG), but one who can contribute 13-14 PPG on regular basis..
    Porker-Mills-Ginobili-Green needs to score 35 between the four of them. They scored a measly 15 points tonight, that's not going to be enough against GSW.

    I don't think they need a third guy. They just need something from Green and Parker for the starters and Mills and Ginobili of the bench. If Parker and Green can average 20 pts between them two in a golden series..we have a pretty good chance.

    Kawhi and Aldridge 45pts
    Danny and Parker 22
    Mills and Manu 17
    Diaw and West 12
    Duncan-Anderson-Martin-Simmons 5

    Can give the spurs a decent chance every game against the warriors.

    The defense won tonight, but it was mostly against a predicable offense. You're not going to hold GSW to under 90.


    You need to score 100 every game...and play the kind of defense you played tonight. Thatd the recipe to beat gsw

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    Porker-Mills-Ginobili-Green needs to score 35 between the four of them. They scored a measly 15 points tonight, that's not going to be enough against GSW.

    I don't think they need a third guy. They just need something from Green and Parker for the starters and Mills and Ginobili of the bench. If Parker and Green can average 20 pts between them two in a golden series..we have a pretty good chance.

    Kawhi and Aldridge 45pts
    Danny and Parker 22
    Mills and Manu 17
    Diaw and West 12
    Duncan-Anderson-Martin-Simmons 5

    Can give the spurs a decent chance every game against the warriors.

    The defense won tonight, but it was mostly against a predicable offense. You're not going to hold GSW to under 90.


    You need to score 100 every game...and play the kind of defense you played tonight. Thatd the recipe to beat gsw
    Duncan will score more than 5 points in the playoffs by himself tbh, even against GS.

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    Duncan will score more than 5 points in the playoffs by himself tbh, even against GS.
    He will probably get 10 or so. Im trying my best not to put to much expectation on timmy against GSW though...but he will get 8+.

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    He will probably get 10 or so. Im trying my best not to put to much expectation on timmy against GSW though...but he will get 8+.
    As long as they don't go small, he can play against them. Obviously he'll get attacked on the PnR, but at this point all but LMA is weak against it.

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    I thought you haven't set it up yet.

    if Parker does indeed get absorbed into the "committee," then we have no chance in at winning a le. Scoring by committee just requires too many moving parts to be in sync at the same time. Hopefully Duncan and Manu perk up in the playoffs, and then I'll shut up about Parker being the 3rd guy.
    I think you just got hit too much by that GSW beatdown imho. Unlike others who promote the "committee" , im not expecting beautiful game back but I'm being realistic in the sense that all we have is a Kawhi LMA 2 man game to be consistent in the playoffs. After that it might be parker, and etc. But i dont expect parker to be a threat to every game. I think it has to be that way unless he suddenly becomes consistent or his health or his at ude.

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    If PARKER is not the 3rd option...he shouldn't be out there. He does nothing else and is a huge liability if not scoring.

    I'd rather have Miller running point if Parker is not scoring. At least he's an assist guy..and even at 100 yrs old he could play better D. Much better for the "committee" option...imho
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    Would it be nice to have a consistent third option? Maybe. Do the Spurs need it? No. The Spurs are talented and deep enough that it doesn't matter. Any given night someone from this group (Tim, Manu, Patty, Boris, Tony, David and even Danny "d- league" Green) is capable of scoring 15-17 points. Each person in this group can even average 8-10 points per game.

    I'm not worried about the Spurs having a consistent third option. It might even be an advantage not to have one. LeBron said it best when defending the Spurs, "everyone on the court is live".

    As as far as this game tonight...great looks, shoot a little better, and this game's a blowout.

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    Would it be nice to have a consistent third option? Maybe. Do the Spurs need it? No. The Spurs are talented and deep enough that it doesn't matter. Any given night someone from this group (Tim, Manu, Patty, Boris, Tony, David and even Danny "d- league" Green) is capable of scoring 15-17 points. Each person in this group can even average 8-10 points per game.

    I'm not worried about the Spurs having a consistent third option. It might even be an advantage not to have one. LeBron said it best when defending the Spurs, "everyone on the court is live".

    As as far as this game tonight...great looks, shoot a little better, and this game's a blowout.
    Yeah, watching the Spurs new "2 man" game, is kinda disconcerting. That's not the Spurs game we've been watching for the last 2 decades. Not saying that ain't our future tho. It just...is kinda weird. lol

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    Pop kept pushing not taking 3's the entire season.

    However, now when the Spurs need to make a 3, they've been laying a big egg for so many games now.

    Against OKC shots were not just not connecting, they weren't even close to going in!

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