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    Imagine if we had good defensive PG tbh.
    It's why I wanted to keep Cojo. I remembered or defense at the start of last season with Cory starting was amazing and thought that could be the future. I guess it was not to be.

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    That won't win against a good defense. Spurs are way too predictable on the offensive end.
    Sure it will. Who has held the Spurs to under 85? 1 time this season, Houston held them to 84.

    Spurs have the best defense in the league. Ergo any other team has worse defense, and only a few have better offense. So the correct take would be that a far superior offense would still beat the Spurs with their defense, but any team held to 85 is going to lose against the Spurs.

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    If there is a way to beat the Warriors, that is it. Granted they whipped our butts when we played them but statistically over the course of the season we have the best defense in the NBA and they have one of the worst defenses in the NBA. Obviously the problem is they score at a ridiculous rate like a goddamn machine. But We are ranked first on defense and seventh on offense. Maybe our defense will be the difference in a seven game series. I hope.

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    The Spurs are primed for an ass whoopin' circa 2010 vs. Suns if Manu/Danny don't get it going (33yr old Porker AT HIS BEST can't play major minutes against the Worriers). Pop just has to roll out the 2014 Gm 6 lineup vs. OKC & maybe swap Tim/Diaw w/ LMA/West during crunch time. So basically,

    LMA
    West
    Kawhi
    Danny
    Manu

    Play Diaw/Patty/K-Mart when Speight/Barbosa/Rush are in the game assuming Kyle is going to get minutes against Livingston.
    Manu isn't anywhere near playoff shape, much less crunch time That play to end the first half with the ball on his hands was terrible. His shot ain't there and he misses a ton of point blank layups

    Aldridge
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    Mills

    is more like it

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    Manu isn't anywhere near playoff shape, much less crunch time That play to end the first half with the ball on his hands was terrible. His shot ain't there and he misses a ton of point blank layups

    Aldridge
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    Green
    Mills

    is more like it
    Bruh, he did okay against Durant so he should be able to guard Livingston who would devour Patty.

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    Bruh, he did okay against Durant so he should be able to guard Livingston who would devour Patty.
    No he didn't

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    CoJo starting and Patty off the bench. Damn what could have been tbh
    Yep.

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    Yes he did

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    Also OKC predictable offensive structure helps...do folks still want to play the Clippers? ..Spurs shot abysmally from 3, got outrebounded big time and still won by 8..
    I was not on the let's play the Clippers end. They give us immense trouble and we have no answer for their pnr or the Rod 3. POP starts hacking and such, but the Clippers always give us trouble and Austin Rivers owns Patty so even their bench presents,problems for us. No thanks.

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    Let's put everything in perspective..... this was a back-to-back game for OKC... they ran out of gas in the 4th quarter.

    My concern is the horrid 3point shooting of the Spurs. It just isn't this game, it's been like this for the last couple of games!!

    Green shots weren't just not going in, they were missing the ring entirely!
    Parkers lack of offensive production is extremely disconcerting, it is like he can only turn it on every other game.
    Manu's defense was good, but don't ask him to penetrate and turn over the ball!
    Anderson is being baited to take the 3 and he's scared to death to take it.
    Martin can't defend anyone and doesn't have the nasty to grab those rebounds.
    Diaw seems to be effective only against smaller opponents in the post. He also doesn't seem to be part of the flow of the offense.
    The bright side, two man game of Kawhi and Aldridge/West seems to be difficult to contain. It'll always be there.

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    Sure it will. Who has held the Spurs to under 85? 1 time this season, Houston held them to 84.

    Spurs have the best defense in the league. Ergo any other team has worse defense, and only a few have better offense. So the correct take would be that a far superior offense would still beat the Spurs with their defense, but any team held to 85 is going to lose against the Spurs.
    I get it. Two sides to the ball: I was alluding to a matchup with Golden State - really the only one that matters.

    Scoring 93 against OKC got the job done. I don't see that working vs GSW.

    Conversely, I don't see the Spurs holding GSW to 85 in any single game much less over a series.
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    Let's put everything in perspective..... this was a back-to-back game for OKC... they ran out of gas in the 4th quarter.

    My concern is the horrid 3point shooting of the Spurs. It just isn't this game, it's been like this for the last couple of games!!

    Green shots weren't just not going in, they were missing the ring entirely!
    Parkers lack of offensive production is extremely disconcerting, it is like he can only turn it on every other game.
    Manu's defense was good, but don't ask him to penetrate and turn over the ball!
    Anderson is being baited to take the 3 and he's scared to death to take it.
    Martin can't defend anyone and doesn't have the nasty to grab those rebounds.
    Diaw seems to be effective only against smaller opponents in the post. He also doesn't seem to be part of the flow of the offense.
    The bright side, two man game of Kawhi and Aldridge/West seems to be difficult to contain. It'll always be there.
    So you're saying the Spurs suck? Because you sure are belly-aching about the best regular season in team history. Why don't you just appreciate their historic run?

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    Let's put everything in perspective..... this was a back-to-back game for OKC... they ran out of gas in the 4th quarter.

    My concern is the horrid 3point shooting of the Spurs. It just isn't this game, it's been like this for the last couple of games!!

    Green shots weren't just not going in, they were missing the ring entirely!
    Parkers lack of offensive production is extremely disconcerting, it is like he can only turn it on every other game.
    Manu's defense was good, but don't ask him to penetrate and turn over the ball!
    Anderson is being baited to take the 3 and he's scared to death to take it.
    Martin can't defend anyone and doesn't have the nasty to grab those rebounds.
    Diaw seems to be effective only against smaller opponents in the post. He also doesn't seem to be part of the flow of the offense.
    The bright side, two man game of Kawhi and Aldridge/West seems to be difficult to contain. It'll always be there.


    Here I'll put it perspective for you...

    Thunder average 109.5pts per game.

    Thunder scored 85pts...

    That's incredible defense..period. Stop trying to make over think things..sure the game wasn't perfect and neither are the Spurs. But nobody is..not even the Warriors

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    85 Points for OKC.

    That's just amazing..and that can win you 6.
    4-24 won't get it done against the Dubs, sorry.

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    4-24 won't get it done against the Dubs, sorry.
    What does 4-24 have anything about defense???

    Stay ok topic bruh

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    I get it. Two sides to the ball: I was alluding to a matchup with Golden State - really the only one that matters.

    Scoring 93 against OKC got the job done. I don't see that working vs GSW.

    Conversely, I don't see the Spurs holding GSW to 85 in any single game much less over a series.
    I think the thread is about the fact that OKC was held to 85, not that the Spurs only scored 93. Shooting 1 for 16 or whatever from 3 won't get it against almost any team in the league with anything other than stellar defense.

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    I think the thread is about the fact that OKC was held to 85, not that the Spurs only scored 93. Shooting 1 for 16 or whatever from 3 won't get it against almost any team in the league with anything other than stellar defense.
    Thank you DMC! Like do people not read or are they so insecure about "their Spurs" they look for negativity in every way they can?

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    4-24 won't get it done against the Dubs, sorry.
    4 for 24 won't happen night in night out either. In fact, it's been that bad just two other times this season - @ CHI and @ IND. Both games were losses but D still kept them in both games.

    The Spurs have shot that many attempts in a game only 8 times all year. Bad shooting on high attempts, many of which were open - I'll take that.

    0 to 10 0
    10 to 11 2
    12 to 13 4
    14 to 15 11
    16 to 17 9
    18 to 19 9
    20 to 21 14
    22 to 23 9
    24 to 25 5
    25 to 26 1
    27+ 2


    0% to 20% 3
    20% to 25% 3
    25% to 30% 9
    30% to 33% 7
    33% to 37% 12
    37% to 40% 13
    43% to 47% 3
    50% to 55% 11
    55% to 60% 1
    60%+ 4

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    Pop is all-in on the Kawhi/Aldridge + defense formula, tbh
    That's pretty exciting! The Spurs haven't had two players this good since Young Duncan + Robinson.

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    Thank you DMC! Like do people not read or are they so insecure about "their Spurs" they look for negativity in every way they can?
    Agloco is pretty good about objectivity and basketball takes. I'd give him a pass here. We can disagree without having ulterior motives. We can also just misunderstand the OP.

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    Yeah, open threes we aren't going to get vs a good defense. See why that might be an issue?
    I really can't see why three point shooting is an issue in a thread called "championship defense". Can you?

    But since you're here, let's just get it out of the way. The Spurs aren't going to win if they shoot 17 percent from the three point line going forward, but one can reasonably assume that if they don't that the defense they showed last night would go a long way in helping them to win.

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    That's pretty exciting! The Spurs haven't had two players this good since Young Duncan + Robinson.
    Yep. And they only had that for one or two years. Both of these guys are going to get better, and they're going to get better together.

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    I really can't see why three point shooting is an issue in a thread called "championship defense". Can you?
    I was responding to Harlem tbh. Everything I said was in the context of what he posted.
    At any rate, they're still too predictable. Granted they won't shoot this badly on many nights, but neither will OKC, and most certainly GSW wont. On average their predictability will make any looks harder down the road.

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    Yes yes yes. My original post was answering Harlem. Some folks are having a hard time with that for some reason.

    I think the thread is about the fact that OKC was held to 85, not that the Spurs only scored 93. Shooting 1 for 16 or whatever from 3 won't get it against almost any team in the league with anything other than stellar defense.

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    Agloco is pretty good about objectivity and basketball takes. I'd give him a pass here. We can disagree without having ulterior motives. We can also just misunderstand the OP.


    Two many beers on board tbh.

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