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    How is it bullying? If you look at the definition of bullying, getting someone to pay their bet definitely doesn't qualify.
    Let's just say he legally had to pay the debt. Is harassing him to pay legal?

    harassment
    (either harris-meant or huh-rass-meant) n. the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands. The purposes may vary, including racial prejudice, personal malice, an attempt to force someone to quit a job or grant sexual favors, apply illegal pressure to collect a bill or merely gain sadistic pleasure from making someone anxious or fearful. Such activities may be the basis for a lawsuit if due to discrimination based on race or sex, a violation on the statutory limitations on collection agencies, involve revenge by an ex-spouse, or be shown to be a form of blackmail ("I'll stop bothering you if you'll go to bed with me"). The victim may file a pe ion for a "stay away" (restraining) order, intended to prevent contact by the offensive party. A systematic pattern of harassment by an employee against another worker may subject the employer to a lawsuit for failure to protect the worker.


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    Are you a serious poster?
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    That doesn't make any sense. Do you believe what you post? If so, then you were wrong about DPG and saying that I was a hypocrite.

    If you don't believe what you post and instead want to be correct about me being a hypocrite, that's fine, but then you're an idiot for your original defense of UNT.

    So again, I will let you choose what type of idiot you are . Don't focus on me and whether or not others think I am right. That is a completely seperate issue and even if I am wrong, I want to focus on your choice on the above and we can move on once that is established. Deal?
    Look brah. Let me make this easier for you. You stated you were going to leave. You are still here.

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    Look brah. Let me make this easier for you. You stated you were going to leave. You are still here.
    You literally just said me leaving the thread means I am in the clear. With no established timeline on how long I was to leave in agreement, I left thus fulfilling my obligation.

    So you were wrong about me - surprised you took that route. I thought you possibly trying to get me was the best accomplishment of your life. Props to sticking with UNT

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    How is it bullying? If you look at the definition of bullying, getting someone to pay their bet definitely doesn't qualify.
    True, but if you've read through the whole thread that's not all that's gone on. Not defending the welching. Online or not, you don't accept a bet you aren't going to keep. OP got what they wanted though. Damaged UNT's rep

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    Let's just say he legally had to pay the debt. Is harassing him to pay legal?

    harassment
    (either harris-meant or huh-rass-meant) n. the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands. The purposes may vary, including racial prejudice, personal malice, an attempt to force someone to quit a job or grant sexual favors, apply illegal pressure to collect a bill or merely gain sadistic pleasure from making someone anxious or fearful. Such activities may be the basis for a lawsuit if due to discrimination based on race or sex, a violation on the statutory limitations on collection agencies, involve revenge by an ex-spouse, or be shown to be a form of blackmail ("I'll stop bothering you if you'll go to bed with me"). The victim may file a pe ion for a "stay away" (restraining) order, intended to prevent contact by the offensive party. A systematic pattern of harassment by an employee against another worker may subject the employer to a lawsuit for failure to protect the worker.


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    What's illegal about the pressure of starting a thread on a voluntary forum?

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    Also, me going back on word did not impact anyone else. My commitment was to me, and not anyone else. Welshing directly infringes on other people. But Daboom got so excited at the thought of going at me he didn't realize that he's the idiot I said he was.
    You just admitted you went back on your word. Why are we still having this debate?

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    True, but if you've read through the whole thread that's not all that's gone on. Not defending the welching. Online or not, you don't accept a bet you aren't going to keep. OP got what they wanted though. Damaged UNT's rep
    What's gone on? A single thread was started calling him out. No worse than any other thread that has been started going at posters whether it's for their takes, actions or welshing. He was treated no differently than anyone else and nothing in the thread was bullying.

    People calling him out for his actions is not bullying. There were no physical threats or threats of any kind actually. It was a poster getting made fun of the same as posters having bad basketball takes.

    The fact UNT is unversially disliked because of his admitted phobic posting, anti-Semitic posting and now add unapologetic welshing to the mix does not make starting one thread bullying (IMO).

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    What's illegal about the pressure of starting a thread on a voluntary forum?
    I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about an imaginary scenario in the real world(not on ST) where you are doing the equivalent of harassment. There are "rules" on how to collect a debt.

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    A bet on the Internet?

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    Also, me going back on word did not impact anyone else. My commitment was to me, and not anyone else. Welshing directly infringes on other people. But Daboom got so excited at the thought of going at me he didn't realize that he's the idiot I said he was.
    You just admitted you went back on your word. Why are we still having this debate?

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    You just admitted you went back on your word. Why are we still having this debate?
    This isn't a debate. That was a tie into another post about what you said. You said I welshed. I agreed. But then I said if I am agreeing to that then that disproves your own logic and you were an idiot about what you said about UNT.

    If using your UNT logic, I fulfilled my duty, but you are saying I welshed. Therefore your logic for UNT is rendered invalid (which is weird since it was your logic to begin with). Is this really that complicated for you to grasp?

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    I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about an imaginary scenario in the real world(not on ST) where you are doing the equivalent of harassment. There are "rules" on how to collect a debt.
    Explain how in the real world this cons utes harassment. First you said bullying. Now it's harassment and you haven't really proven anything either way.

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    Brah, the argument was over when you admitted to going back on your word. Try to keep up.

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    Brah, the argument was over when you admitted to going back on your word. Try to keep up.
    I agree. When I admitted I left the thread and fulfilled my obligation, but you insisted that logic was not good enough and I went back on my word, the argument was over.

    I agree 100% with you that using your UNT logic did not make sense and I still went back on my word. Just means that UNT also did and your original defense of him is now invalid.

    You are now bullying UNT by saying he welshed.

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    I agree. When I admitted I left the thread and fulfilled my obligation, but you insisted that logic was not good enough and I went back on my word, the argument was over.

    I agree 100% with you that using your UNT logic did not make sense and I still went back on my word. Just means that UNT also did and your original defense of him is now invalid.

    You are now bullying UNT by saying he welshed.

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    I win! I rarely get into the muck any more, but I still got it!

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    I win! I rarely get into the muck any more, but I still got it!
    Sure buddy. Everyone else agrees.

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    What's gone on? A single thread was started calling him out. No worse than any other thread that has been started going at posters whether it's for their takes, actions or welshing. He was treated no differently than anyone else and nothing in the thread was bullying.

    People calling him out for his actions is not bullying. There were no physical threats or threats of any kind actually. It was a poster getting made fun of the same as posters having bad basketball takes.

    The fact UNT is unversially disliked because of his admitted phobic posting, anti-Semitic posting and now add unapologetic welshing to the mix does not make starting one thread bullying (IMO).
    I don't have many posts, I know, but I've been reading the forum for years now and it's the most active one I'm on among all my sports teams. But, it's also the most poorly monitored one and the exchanges between posters are horrible. " got" this, " got that." It's BS tbh. So, to say this thread is OK because UNT is "getting made fun of the same as other posters" is total garbage reasoning. Have I seen UNT is game/other threads? Yes, IMO he has a bad perspective on his fandom/other things and gives up on his team too quickly. I'm just sticking up for someone that is taking some excessive heat IMO.

    Unless I'm personally attacked for some reason and feel obligated to defend myself, this will be the last time I contribute to this counterproductive thread.

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    I don't have many posts, I know, but I've been reading the forum for years now and it's the most active one I'm on among all my sports teams. But, it's also the most poorly monitored one and the exchanges between posters are horrible. " got" this, " got that." It's BS tbh. So, to say this thread is OK because UNT is "getting made fun of the same as other posters" is total garbage reasoning. Have I seen UNT is game/other threads? Yes, IMO he has a bad perspective on his fandom/other things and gives up on his team too quickly. I'm just sticking up for someone that is taking some excessive heat IMO.

    Unless I'm personally attacked for some reason and feel obligated to defend myself, this will be the last time I contribute to this counterproductive thread.
    Shut up got.

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    Knew that was coming

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    If you have been active, you've seen me stick up for the bullied and the trash (in fact UNT was banned after I warned him about his phobic & anti-Semitic slurs). I was alluding to he's not being targeted unfairly as some nice guy who just got caught in the cross hairs.

    This isn't some unprovoked attack where people are calling him racial slurs or going at him for personal things. This is about him welshing and nothing more. Not only that, it's really just been focused on that and not even his sh*t posting.

    I don't think one thread, especially one where he's coming in unapologetically about it, is that bad IMO. Especially when a few posters legit tried to give some advice about things too.

    I'm saying I don't see what is bullying about this thread. No one in a position of power is abusing him and using leverage. He did a crappy thing (in the middle of all the crap he does) and someone started a thread about that specific thing calling him out. It's not like everyone is piling on and abusing him and hating on every aspect of his life in order to get something out of it.

    I have no dog in this fight other than trying to help someone that is a part of this community but not bringing anything of value (UNT) and trying to help him see how he's viewed.

    As much as you care or don't this is a community. One that has a lot of problems and I stick up for this community and try to right the wrongs I can. If you view this as a community, doing things like spouting racist, phobic and anti-Semitic trash is bad. So is welshing on members.

    Just like the racism and other crap, using the "it's online you should just expect welshing, etc.."is bull. If you shouldn't expect racism and phobia you shouldn't expect welshing.

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    Sure buddy. Everyone else agrees.
    Make a thread and start a poll. Loser leaves forever?

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    Knew that was coming
    Sorry. But it was mandatory.

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    If you have been active, you've seen me stick up for the bullied and the trash (in fact UNT was banned after I warned him about his phobic & anti-Semitic slurs). I was alluding to he's not being targeted unfairly as some nice guy who just got caught in the cross hairs.

    This isn't some unprovoked attack where people are calling him racial slurs or going at him for personal things. This is about him welshing and nothing more. Not only that, it's really just been focused on that and not even his sh*t posting.

    I don't think one thread, especially one where he's coming in unapologetically about it, is that bad IMO. Especially when a few posters legit tried to give some advice about things too.

    I'm saying I don't see what is bullying about this thread. No one in a position of power is abusing him and using leverage. He did a crappy thing (in the middle of all the crap he does) and someone started a thread about that specific thing calling him out. It's not like everyone is piling on and abusing him and hating on every aspect of his life in order to get something out of it.

    I have no dog in this fight other than trying to help someone that is a part of this community but not bringing anything of value (UNT) and trying to help him see how he's viewed.

    As much as you care or don't this is a community. One that has a lot of problems and I stick up for this community and try to right the wrongs I can. If you view this as a community, doing things like spouting racist, phobic and anti-Semitic trash is bad. So is welshing on members.

    Just like the racism and other crap, using the "it's online you should just expect welshing, etc.."is bull. If you shouldn't expect racism and phobia you shouldn't expect welshing.
    He was banned for a microsecond. Him calling out another poster for his job should have earned him pink just on principle. Meanwhile, ctoa was pinked for posting a news story about Tony Parker that was clearly tongue in cheek.

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