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I'll take that all day every day.
Yeah, it is as if the Spurs shooters are not practicing at all, no confidence at all in their long range shot. I think this will be this team undoing, their defense is championship level for many other season, but not this season, not against that alien like shooting team from gay area.
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I'll take that all day every day.
And somebody other than Martin can hit a 3 tbh
Manu MO is to spin the blame on others
Rob Ryan could've stopped Manu in the first half
If we make it to the WCF we need to start Miller imo.
That's exactly how it works, mid... you and I both know that. This is why an injury to Tim/Manu basically drops our chances to zero, tbh...
The league has shifted away from the big three model. Now, it's the big two and committee. Big three and committee would be great, but it's tougher to afford/accomplish.
Warriors and Spurs are great examples of big two and committee.
The Thunder, tried to go with the old model, big three with Westbrook, Durant and either Ibaka/Kanter, but really have a big two with no committee.
Look at the Clips, big two and committee. Sure their committee isn't as good as the Spurs and the Warriors, but still are closer to this model than the Thunder. That's why I'd prefer the Thunder in a playoff matchup.
The Cavs are sort of like the Thunder. Tried to go with the old model big three, James/Irving/Love, but the chemistry's not right and now they are a big two with no committee. They still tried to buy a committee, but really haven't been successful. Highest payroll in the league.
I liked how the defense was set to matchup against The thunder. The Spurs had a awful shooting night yet the game felt entirely under their control even with the lead lost.
If the Spurs hit half of those open looks they missed last night we close out the thunder at home easily last night
They played a good defensive game last night and got the W.
Tony, Tim, Manu, Patty, Boris. All capable of getting you 15-20 any given night. It's been like that all season long: KL and LA and then whoever gets it going that night. I don't know what you are ing about.
Not a shabby Big 2..
And who has the better stars?
Also, Parker averages 2.5 more PPG on much better shooting than our 4th best scorer (Manu), so while he might part of the committee, he's obviously the CEO of it.
And yes, I advocate slowing the game down against GS, which is all the more reason to utilize Parker's strengths, since he's been very good throughout his career at breaking down defenses with penetration and probing in the half-court. We also need someone who can make Wardell work (although GS will likely just hide Wardell on Green).
Patty has three 18+ point games this season. Duncan has one. Boris has one. Manu has two.
Go look at their season splits. They score those numbers maybe once every 20 games. 18 one night and then following up with 6 or 7 points the next 5 or 6 games won't be good enough to beat the Warriors. Tony is the only player on this team who has proven he can string multiple 18-20 point games together.
Yeah, whoever gets it going. Guess what? Tony is the usually the one who has it (somewhat) going.
Who has the better stars between the two teams is irrelevant. The point being is that, against golden state you need two guys that can either post up as a big ( see memphis series) or a wing that can post up and play in the triple threat zone ( see finals). The spurs have both ..something memphis or cleveland didnt have.
Parker is going to have to play off those two offense because his penetration is the most vurneable to Golden state transition points. Attcking with Parker maximizes Golden state defensive potential and transition threes.
That's a recipe for disaster. He needs to set them up, not try to be a 15ppg man.
So how do you suppose the Spurs are going to punish GS for doubling? Danny "1-9" Green 3s?
If the ball is swung back to Parker on the weak side during a Kawhi or LMA double, he'll likely have Steph one-on-one with an open driving lane. Kyrie scored 10 points in the paint in game 1 last Finals (before he got injured in the 4th).
You need to have an additional penetrator against GS, since their 3 point defense is one of the best in the league, so I'm not counting on punishing them with Danny Green or Mills when they bring hard doubles and swarm.
The spurs won't win if Green doesnt hit at least 35% of his threes anyway and average 2 threes a game. Parker penetrating is fine, but it has to be after a Leonard or Adlridge action. Alternativley, he can choose to shoot the ball.So how do you suppose the Spurs are going to punish GS for doubling? Danny "1-9" Green 3s?
If the ball is swung back to Parker on the weak side during a Kawhi or LMA double, he'll likely have Steph one-on-one with an open driving lane. Kyrie scored 10 points in the paint in game 1 last Finals (before he got injured in the 4th).
You need to have an additional penetrator against GS, since their 3 point defense is one of the best in the league, so I'm not counting on punishing them with Danny Green or Mills when they bring hard doubles and swarm.
I mistype. What I wanted to say os that relying on Parker Pick and roll or Pop game is disastrous. If he's penetrating after a swing, then by all means attack if the lane is there.
Just minimze the screen and whatever out of Parker to obvious sets..like the obvious pop, or kawhi punch. He obviously needs to attack on those situations if GSW overplays, but these arent whag you are going to use heavily against GSW.
Yes, this is what I'm endorsing. It's how he (and Manu) also attacked in the Duncan-era. Duncan would get doubled-tripled, and Parker/Manu would clean up on penetration.
Not Parker going iso. Although, Parker will have to iso/play a 2 man game with Duncan occasionally to give GS a different look and to give LMA/Kawhi a breath.
And I've been so adamant about Parker as the 3rd guy precisely because I don't believe Green can hit threes at that clip against the Warriors. I've lost all confidence in his shooting. If he could give us a consistent 8-10 points, then I wouldn't hand wring over the Spurs needing a "3rd guy."
The diffrence between those Manu and Parker during the Duncan era is that no one was as good as those and not even close to taking advantage of Timms ability to draw crowds. They were legitimiate stars, specially Manu.
Parker penetration isnt at a level where you could say it is much better than Mills three or Manu three at this point of his career. That's exactly why he's part of "the comitte".
In other words, whoever is taking the most advantage out of Kawhi and Aldridge offensive game for that specific game should eat the minutes or scoring..That could be Manu, Patty, Green, Parker..heck could even be Martin or Anderson.
Parker is going to naturally be more involved since he starts the game, but late 2nd quarter and late third to fourth quarter is about whoever takes the most out of Kawhis and Aldridge game.
Both Mills and Manu offer different offensive varities too if they wanna give Leonard ot Aldridge some breathing room.
Manu and Patty should be on watch alert. Patty is most strictly a shooter and he hasn't been shy on his shots, but he's been slumping lately. Manu is not fully back. He had the adrenaline game and has also been off the rest of the games.
I haven't liked Martin, even with his shot that he made he is so bad at everything else that he's quickly on Austin Daye territory for me as a shooter who you have to give a lot opportunities to score to justify his time on the court bc he's terrible defensively and doesn't give you anything else. Daye at least rebounded and gave you the occasional steal or block, but Martin should be the better shooter. Still hasn't been shooting a whole lot better than Daye was b4 he was cut last season and he really doesn't give you anything else. Yuck!.
Andre Miller I have liked but you can't play him off the ball. His best attribute is passing. I would like to see a little bit more of him, but I have liked him.
Who cares we won the game
Well, that should be obvious since, of the bunch, he's the one that plays the more minutes and takes the most shots.
Patty has three 18+ point games this season. Duncan has one. Boris has one. Manu has two.
Go look at their season splits. They score those numbers maybe once every 20 games. 18 one night and then following up with 6 or 7 points the next 5 or 6 games won't be good enough to beat the Warriors. Tony is the only player on this team who has proven he can string multiple 18-20 point games together.
Yeah, whoever gets it going. Guess what? Tony is the usually the one who has it (somewhat) going.
And I said 15-20 pts not 18-20, you don't need your third scorer getting 20 ppg. No team ever did and I don't see why the best defensive team in the league should suddenly need a third option that gets you 20 pts every night.
I seriously don't get the point you're trying to make here. Parker is the third option of the team, I don't know what else you want. You want him to get you around 20 ppg? Sorry to break it to you son, but that's very unlikely to happen. First, because is really hard for a team to have 3 guys averaging around 20 ppg (not even with all the big 3 in their primes we ever pulled that off) and second, because Parker just doesn't have it to bring it every night. But hey! that's OK, I say we just keep doing what got us winning at a record level, tbh.
Yeah, all this talk about the "need for a consistent third scorer" is overblown. Of the top five teams, only the Clippers have one.
With Aldridge now comfortable and Martin on board, the Spurs once again have unparalleled scoring depth. Parker may be the closest thing to a consistent third, but they don't need any one person to be.
We're seeing it bear out with closing lineups, in close games. At this writing, only Leonard and Aldridge are assured of playing in those situations.
If we make 3's at a normal clip we are fine the way we are, tbh.
Any other season and you'd probably be right.
This isn't any season. There's a team out there that will blow us out of the water if we aren't in very consistent shape come post-season. We can't have inconsistencies in our rotation players -- it just won't cut it against GSW.
What are you suggesting? Tony getting 15 shots everynight even when he's clearly not feeling it like today (and every recent game except the Bulls one)?
People always want things to be conventional or at least their perception there of. The reality is, this is the Spurs' version of consistent shape now.
Like DAF86 said, three-point shooting is more important.
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