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    The kid is 19 and still learning the parts of the game expected to be learned, while demonstrating an innate ability and vision that can't be.

    People overthink things. Needlessly.

    Simmons isn't LeBron, and he certainly isn't Magic, but if you can get a more athletic Lamar Odom without the drug problems, you ing do it.

    He is ball dominant. That will be a problem early. Bu, again, we are complaining about a kid who is incredibly talented and instinctual. Curry is ball dominant and yet somehow a central part of the best passing team in the League.

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    The kid is 19 and still learning the parts of the game expected to be learned, while demonstrating an innate ability and vision that can't be.

    People overthink things. Needlessly.

    Simmons isn't LeBron, and he certainly isn't Magic, but if you can get a more athletic Lamar Odom without the drug problems, you ing do it.

    He is ball dominant. That will be a problem early. Bu, again, we are complaining about a kid who is incredibly talented and instinctual. Curry is ball dominant and yet somehow a central part of the best passing team in the League.
    Curry is ball dominant because he can shoot from anywhere and has proven able and willing to make the right pass. Simmons cannot/has not.

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    Simmon's game reminds me of Randle but is distinguished by his better size, athleticism and excellent court vision. If the Lakers somehow ends up with the #1 pick, it would be extremely hard to pass up on Simmons. But personally, I think Ingram is the better fit who can slide seamlessly, offer a versatile offensive presence, handle the rock and complement their core.
    RANDLE. Who had the worst plus /minus in the NBA last week.

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    RANDLE. Who had the worst plus /minus in the NBA last week.
    Simmons already has a better off hand than Randle. Randle at least shows a willingness to shoot a open jumper something Simmons has shied away from. I'm with Strength if Lakers do win the lottery it will be tough to pass him up. Even if he is just a bigger Iggy who is the player he reminds me most of btw that is still better than anyone we have right now. Iggy had better athleticism Simmons has better natural vision both were play-makers in college who struggled from range. Iggy on a better zona team helped his squad win more though ...simmons does need to prove in workouts etc. he was not a part of the problem for a vastly under-achieving team. I will say this people always say it's a team sport except when it's to knock someone they dislike. Simmons will also need to develop a shot. Spacing for the Sixers will be god awful if they trot out Noel/Oakafor/Simmons same for Lakers with Randle/Simmons/Center?

    All that being said unless Ingram wows me in the tourney I would take Simmons first then look to trade for better spacing later tbh ...

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    Ingram is clearly the better pick,,,,,lakers are gonna it up as per par

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    Ingram is clearly the better pick,,,,,lakers are gonna it up as per par
    Pretty sure we wont mess it up as bad as ...

    The dust chip
    The rondo trade
    chasing Dwight Howard
    Breaking up the le team ...
    Dwill near his prime chose Brooklyn
    No tyson is not worth that much ...no wait, he is!!

    If it wasnt for RC this Mavs team would be just as ty as we are ... poor Dirk.

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    Pretty sure we wont mess it up as bad as ...

    The dust chip
    The rondo trade
    chasing Dwight Howard
    Breaking up the le team ...
    Dwill near his prime chose Brooklyn
    No tyson is not worth that much ...no wait, he is!!

    If it wasnt for RC this Mavs team would be just as ty as we are ... poor Dirk.
    That's the Sweep talkin'.

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    Pretty sure we wont mess it up as bad as ...

    The dust chip
    The rondo trade
    chasing Dwight Howard
    Breaking up the le team ...
    Dwill near his prime chose Brooklyn
    No tyson is not worth that much ...no wait, he is!!

    If it wasnt for RC this Mavs team would be just as ty as we are ... poor Dirk.
    You have nary room there after the begging


    Also all of those combined still aren't as bad of a up as 48.5

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    You have nary room there after the begging


    Also all of those combined still aren't as bad of a up as 48.5
    We traded a twice knee scoped Bynum to get Dwight ...
    Not the DPOTY nor did we break up a le team to get him ...

    Ahh the sweep was just the end result of a team that had done as much as it could. Y'all kicked our ass no excuses and it doesnt bother me. Lakers were swept plenty when we had the most dominant center ever and no Phil Jackson to lead the way. Utah swept us. Spurs swept us. That sweep meant a LOT more to Mavs fan than it did to us.

    The one and done boys!!!

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    You have nary room there after the begging


    Also all of those combined still aren't as bad of a up as 48.5
    But wait there's more ....

    Deandre Jordan ...

    Wesley Matthews ...$70 million with same injury Kobe had ... 48.5 million was bad. Cuban doesnt learn from it.
    Chandler Parsons ...model.

    Both making more than dirk yet Dirk still the best player on the Mavs

    the big fish theory
    shark Tank more important than Free agent meetings ...
    Drunken promises and deals made in LA clubs ...

    The deandre begging then the reniggin'
    Deandre comes to dallas and drops a 20 and 20 wet on the Mavs last week ...
    Leading analytics team (cuban speak regularly at the Sloan conference) trades for Rondo who cant shoot!

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    LSU was dumpster fire. Weak coach, weak program and suddenly they`ve got next messiah, but couldn`t handle him and after great start, frustation has grown. It all ended in huge ing blowout by TAMU in SEC SF and then withdrawal for NIT. I wouldnt count this kid out after such a mess he was involved in.

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    Local ESPN Dallas

    It’s also not going to get any easier for the Mavs in the long term. They’re stuck on the mediocrity treadmill owner Mark Cuban has always feared -- having won a grand total of four playoff games since their 2011 le run -- and have no clear path back to being legitimate contenders.

    Dallas is paying the price for a decade of draft duds or dealing its picks because it didn’t value investments in young prospects. Justin Anderson and Dwight Powell, the two young players on the roster president of basketball operations Donnie Nelson claimed (with a straight face, even!) were hot commodities before the trade deadline, only play during garbage time. The Mavs don’t even have a pick in this summer’s draft unless it falls in the top seven, owing it to the Boston Celtics to wrap up the disastrous Rajon Rondo deal, which also cost them Jae Crowder, the only legitimate NBA talent Dallas has drafted in the past decade.

    The Mavs’ attempts to reload without rebuilding haven’t worked, either. They’re stuck in an NBA no-man’s land, with giving Nowitzki a chance to contend for championships during his golden years looking less and less likely.

    And I was no math major in college but $70 million > 48.5 million

    The fact that the 29-year-old Matthews is struggling through the worst season of his career can’t be considered surprising. The history of players coming back from torn Achilles tendons, if they come back at all, is frighteningly poor.

    The Mavs were well aware of that when they made their massive investment in Matthews this summer, signing him to a four-year, $70 million contract, making good on owner Mark Cuban’s promise to pay him as much as possible depending on whether DeAndre Jordan joined the Mavs. (It would have been a $57 million deal if Jordan followed through on his commitment to come to Dallas.)

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    LSU was dumpster fire. Weak coach, weak program and suddenly they`ve got next messiah, but couldn`t handle him and after great start, frustation has grown. It all ended in huge ing blowout by TAMU in SEC SF and then withdrawal for NIT. I wouldnt count this kid out after such a mess he was involved in.
    agreed. But there are some holes in his game and questions to be answered.

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    We traded a twice knee scoped Bynum to get Dwight ...
    Not the DPOTY nor did we break up a le team to get him ...
    Doesn't matter, it was still one of the biggest failures in NBA history (now this is going to be FUN ) and you still begged for him to stay

    Ahh the sweep was just the end result of a team that had done as much as it could. Y'all kicked our ass no excuses and it doesnt bother me. Lakers were swept plenty when we had the most dominant center ever and no Phil Jackson to lead the way. Utah swept us. Spurs swept us. That sweep meant a LOT more to Mavs fan than it did to us.
    You seem to always have a bone to pick with Cuban for some reason so, yeah, I'll just bet it doesn't. Ha

    The one and done boys!!!
    Curb stomped by a one and done team

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    But wait there's more ....

    Deandre Jordan ...

    Wesley Matthews ...$70 million with same injury Kobe had ... 48.5 million was bad. Cuban doesnt learn from it.
    Chandler Parsons ...model.

    Both making more than dirk yet Dirk still the best player on the Mavs

    the big fish theory
    shark Tank more important than Free agent meetings ...
    Drunken promises and deals made in LA clubs ...

    The deandre begging then the reniggin'
    Deandre comes to dallas and drops a 20 and 20 wet on the Mavs last week ...
    Leading analytics team (cuban speak regularly at the Sloan conference) trades for Rondo who cant shoot!
    Yeah Matthews deal might be bad but the cap raise is gonna mitigate some of that. Still, nothing beats 24mil a year under the current cap for basically the worst player in the league especially when all you got to show for it are two busts

    Deandre situation just showed how much of a got he is tbh

    But yeah it's pretty clear Cuban lives rent free in your head, not sure why

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    Doesn't matter, it was still one of the biggest failures in NBA history (now this is going to be FUN ) and you still begged for him to stay


    You seem to always have a bone to pick with Cuban for some reason so, yeah, I'll just bet it doesn't. Ha



    Curb stomped by a one and done team
    I dont like Cubes ...no doubt about that.
    The sweep doesnt bother me ... I was at the AAC for game 3 probably one of the 5 best games i ever been to even though we lost ..

    We did get curb stomped in game 4 the,rest of the series was fairly close but either way yall whipped our ass. Love RC and Dirk hate Cubes so watching you fail brings me joy. He says he enjoys watching the Lakers suck ...i will enjoy him failing even more.

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    Yeah Matthews deal might be bad but the cap raise is gonna mitigate some of that. Still, nothing beats 24mil a year under the current cap for basically the worst player in the league especially when all you got to show for it are two busts

    Deandre situation just showed how much of a got he is tbh

    But yeah it's pretty clear Cuban lives rent free in your head, not sure why
    Matthews was the only starter shooting worse than Kobe a few weeks back not sure if still true but either way you have him for 3 more years with no les to show. Kobes contract was based on past performance for us and ends this year ...
    you are paying Wes for what he did for Portland. Smart move.

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    Matthews was the only starter shooting worse than Kobe a few weeks back not sure if still true but either way you have him for 3 more years with no les to show. Kobes contract was based on past performance for us and ends this year ...
    you are paying Wes for what he did for Portland. Smart move.
    Forgot those dumb asses gave him that huge contract

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    Forgot those dumb asses gave him that huge contract
    yep. And to be fair good guy hard worker by all accounts a great locker-room guy... but they paid him $70 million to help lure Deandre ... he only would have gotten $57 million if Jordan had stayed. But Jordan did not and they still added $13 million to a guy coming off the same surgery Kobe did and we saw how crappy Kobe looked post Surgery ... that is the puzzling part.

    Deandre's reniggin' has had one of the biggest dominoes effect ... since the Stern veto and The Decision, tbh ...
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 03-15-2016 at 09:07 AM.

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    yep. And to be fair good guy hard worker by all accounts a great locker-room guy... but they paid him $70 million to help lure Deandre ... he only would have gotten $57 million if Jordan had stayed. But Jordan did not and they still added $13 million to a guy coming off the same surgery Kobe did and we saw how crappy Kobe looked post Surgery ... that is the puzzling part.

    Deandre's reniggin' has had the biggest dominoes effect since the Stern veto and The Decision, tbh ...
    Mavs future looks even more bleak than the Lakers honestly. At least the Lakers have a few solid young pieces.

    The Mavs though? Chandler Parsons? Not a fitting centerpiece and he wants out anyway. Wes Matthews, no way a number 1 option. They don't have for the future. Kind of sad to see actually.

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    Mavs future looks even more bleak than the Lakers honestly. At least the Lakers have a few solid young pieces.

    The Mavs though? Chandler Parsons? Not a fitting centerpiece and he wants out anyway. Wes Matthews, no way a number 1 option. They don't have for the future. Kind of sad to see actually.
    I would still take them slightly over us because they have a coach...and despite my distaste for him they have one owner who may meddle some but has put a solid front office in place. The strange thing is as good as a city Dallas is (well I stay in Frisco work in Plano) ... no big fish has come to play there even with a top notch coach and a sure fire HOF'er like Dirk. They also have a great tax situation ... great housing strong schools. if a player is a family man like many pretend when they get married DFW is great.

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    Weather just sucks in the summer ...

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    I would still take them slightly over us because they have a coach...and despite my distaste for him they have one owner who may meddle some but has put a solid front office in place. The strange thing is as good as a city Dallas is (well I stay in Frisco work in Plano) ... no big fish has come to play there even with a top notch coach and a sure fire HOF'er like Dirk. They also have a great tax situation ... great housing strong schools. if a player is a family man like many pretend when they get married DFW is great.
    DFW is solid. If I move from San Antonio it will either be to Dallas or Austin. More than likely Dallas though, actually having my bachelor party there this week.

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    Being an LSU alumni, I watched just about every game Simmons played this year. The kid has raw talent, but not once did he take over a game down the stretch. He has no killer instinct. It didn't help that LSU's coach is possibly the worst one in college basketball. Such a disappointing season after such high expectations.

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    Matthews was the only starter shooting worse than Kobe a few weeks back not sure if still true but either way you have him for 3 more years with no les to show. Kobes contract was based on past performance for us and ends this year ...
    you are paying Wes for what he did for Portland. Smart move.
    Right now Matthews' contract surely looks bad, and yeah giving him that extra money was ing re ed , but I will wait until next season to call it a failure.

    Contracts based on past performance are even more re ed though and that's not what the Mavs did. They are not paying for what he did in Portland, they just made a gamble. Whether he was going to live up to it or not was unclear at the time. With your kirby though everybody knew he was done and was never gonna live up to his contract and all you have to show for it are two seasons as the cellar dweller of the western conference 48.5 has been far more damaging than Matthews contract can ever be

    To your point about Cuban, while I'm not the biggest fan of the guy either, as far as owners go he's still one of the best. I just wish he wouldn't get involved so much in the basketball decisions.

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