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    I think you're expressing interesting points.

    Want to say though, I think the martyrs' experiences are different from a random scare of death.
    I'd think if they were suddenly ran after by a lion they would be scared and would run for their lives.
    They even moved from places to avoid being arrested. They could act in preservation of their lives in general.

    But at the face of certain death, they could show their faith and be sure they were going home.

    Maybe you implied this, don't know. Just wanted to point that out.
    True. But I am more or less talking about people knowing they are going to die. To get back to my Grandfather. He was a chain smoker as well. My mom always tried to convince him to quit, and he told her he never would. Guess what, he went for his annual check up and the doctor told him he would be dead in 3-5 years if he continued smoking. If he didn't fear death like he stated, he would have. HE QUIT. And has lived almost 20 years since that examine.

    Survival mechanism will kick in to defend one's self, that's natural. But I am talking about people on their death beds (car accidents, battlefield, etc) or have some incurable disease. My sister had cancer when she was 23. I am 3 years younger. While staying at the Hope Lodge, I met people with worse conditions and they would say they were afraid to die in the group sessions they had. But they would say the pain was so great some times they just felt like dying as well.

    These people were honest with themselves. But like the man Bob Marley wrote about from his childhood, he was dying from Cancer as well I believe and had a totally different outlook than the people I witnessed. That man had the ultimate faith, more faith than me I have to admit.
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    Dude, CHRISTIANS use to be burned at the Stake and fed to lions, etc. And you know what they were doing, SINGING. Praising God. These people had Faith. I am not Generalizing. We live in a FAITHLESS GENERATION. If you believe the Bible, Jesus said the last generations would be like this.
    This is hilarious. It's a wicked combination of, "You should never be afraid", "the good old days", and "THE END IS NIGH". You just summed up every single "git off mah lawn!" trope in a single paragraph. That's amazing.

    I guess we should go back to the early 20th century, when people had "true faith" that led them to en masse discriminate against people based on skin pigments.

    But yeah. It's today's generation that has no faith or appreciation for the teachings of Christ, what with all our "humans have rights" malarkey.
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    True. But I am more or less talking about people knowing they are going to die. To get back to my Grandfather. He was a chain smoker as well. My mom always tried to convince him to quit, and he told her he never would. Guess what, he went for his annual check up and the doctor told him he would be dead in 3-5 years if he continued smoking. If he didn't fear death like he stated, he would have. HE QUIT. And has lived almost 20 years since that examine.

    Survival mechanism will kick in to defend one's self, that's natural. But I am talking about people on their death beds (car accidents, battlefield, etc) or have some incurable disease. My sister had cancer when she was 23. I am 3 years younger. While staying at the Hope Lodge, I met people with worse conditions and they would say they were afraid to die in the group sessions they had. But they would say the pain was so great some times they just felt like dying as well.

    These people were honest with themselves. But like the man Bob Marley wrote about from his childhood, he was dying from Cancer as well I believe and had a totally different outlook than the people I witnessed. That man had the ultimate faith, more faith than me I have to admit.
    I see. Thanks for sharing.
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    This is hilarious. It's a wicked combination of, "You should never be afraid", "the good old days", and "THE END IS NIGH". You just summed up every single "git off mah lawn!" trope in a single paragraph. That's amazing.

    I guess we should go back to the early 20th century, when people had "true faith" that led them to en masse discriminate against people based on skin pigments.

    But yeah. It's today's generation that has no faith or appreciation for the teachings of Christ, what with all our "humans have rights" malarkey.

    Do you think racism is a product of faith?
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    Do you think racism is a product of faith?
    Racism is usually a product of ignorance, among other things
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    Do you think racism is a product of faith?
    Do you think people can claim to be stalwart Christians and then turn and say, "N----r Jim, you missed a spot on the floor over there."

    Does that compute for you? At all? In any way? I must have missed that section of the Bible where it says, "But yea I say unto thee, love thy neighbor, love thine enemy, take a stranger into your house and wash their feet. Unless they be of filthy black origin."
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    Do you think people can claim to be stalwart Christians and then turn and say, "N----r Jim, you missed a spot on the floor over there."

    Does that compute for you? At all? In any way? I must have missed that section of the Bible where it says, "But yea I say unto thee, love thy neighbor, love thine enemy, take a stranger into your house and wash their feet. Unless they be of filthy black origin."
    Exactly. They were wrong.

    But you seemed to relate faith with racism.
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    This is hilarious. It's a wicked combination of, "You should never be afraid", "the good old days", and "THE END IS NIGH". You just summed up every single "git off mah lawn!" trope in a single paragraph. That's amazing.

    I guess we should go back to the early 20th century, when people had "true faith" that led them to en masse discriminate against people based on skin pigments.

    But yeah. It's today's generation that has no faith or appreciation for the teachings of Christ, what with all our "humans have rights" malarkey.
    Tell me one person Jesus discriminated against as you are identifying True Christianity to racism. Didn't God tell Phillip to go witness to the Ethiopian man who was reading the scriptures. I love how Human Rights is becoming more filthy. That's hilarious. Abort my kids b/c I don't want to raise one and don't want to financially support it, check. Live with a girl I have no attention of marrying or committing myself to and no one gives a , check. If I want to be a women even though I am a man and society has to accept it no matter what, check. If I want cheat thousands of people of their retirement funds and get away with it, check (recent events in Wall Street). If I pose a nude photo myself on twitter so millions of people can see w/ no consequence, check. I love you find and associate the demoralization of society as HUMAN RIGHTS. You really think these people you are talking about are Christians.

    What happen if I said I was an Atheist but I attended church every Sunday (which personally haven't been in over a decade) and prayed to God all the time. You will know them by their fruits. Pretty basic concept if you ask me.

    Here is the quote from whom I think was the most intelligent President ever and he didn't even believe in the Divine birth of Jesus and a lot of other things in the Bible.

    "We all agree in the obligation of the moral precepts of Jesus, and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in his discourses" Thomas Jefferson quoting about the Continental Congress
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    Exactly. They were wrong.

    But you seemed to relate faith with racism.
    It's the opposite. I don't think you can be a servant of the Jesus I read about in the Bible if you think people of different color are beneath you.

    There was an AWFUL lot of racism from "Christian" groups in the 1900s. The ones that weren't, I didn't see a lot of them going out of their way to fight for equal rights for all (some did, absolutely, but most did not).

    I don't think you can tacitly support racism and still claim to be a Christian. It doesn't work like that.
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    Tell me one person Jesus discriminated against as you are identifying True Christianity to racism. Didn't God tell Phillip to go witness to the Ethiopian man who was reading the scriptures. I love how Human Rights is becoming more filthy. That's hilarious. Abort my kids b/c I don't want to raise one and don't want to financially support it, check. Live with a girl I have no attention of marrying or committing myself to and no one gives a , check. If I want to be a women even though I am a man and society has to accept it no matter what, check. If I want cheat thousands of people of their retirement funds and get away with it, check (recent events in Wall Street). If I pose a nude photo myself on twitter so millions of people can see w/ no consequence, check. I love you find and associate the demoralization of society as HUMAN RIGHTS. You really think these people you are talking about are Christians.

    What happen if I said I was an Atheist but I attended church every Sunday (which personally haven't been in over a decade) and prayed to God all the time. You will know them by their fruits. Pretty basic concept if you ask me.

    Here is the quote from whom I think was the most intelligent President ever and he didn't even believe in the Divine birth of Jesus and a lot of other things in the Bible.

    "We all agree in the obligation of the moral precepts of Jesus, and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in his discourses" Thomas Jefferson quoting about the Continental Congress
    My point was directed at the fact that you claim that today's generation has no faith, when in reality the prior generations that you seem to be referring to (I assume including your own) discriminated en masse against people of other skin tones (and guess what, they still do).

    Jesus was a campaigner for human rights for all people.

    What's odd is you conflating a couple living unmarried in the same house with a lack of faith or morals? That's just a tired argument. Women have the ability to not depend on men who beat them anymore, again, a vestige of the past generations that was supposedly so "full of faith".
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    My point was directed at the fact that you claim that today's generation has no faith, when in reality the prior generations that you seem to be referring to (I assume including your own) discriminated en masse against people of other skin tones (and guess what, they still do).

    Jesus was a campaigner for human rights for all people.

    What's odd is you conflating a couple living unmarried in the same house with a lack of faith or morals? That's just a tired argument. Women have the ability to not depend on men who beat them anymore, again, a vestige of the past generations that was supposedly so "full of faith".
    Do you think I am just talking about recent history. True Christians don't discriminate. 600k Americans died over slavery. There was a lot of people who didn't agree with Slavery or discrimination.

    Faith was exhibit more in past generations than today. Before people fought and died for causes greater than themselves. Now all people care about is themselves. Even Time magazine, which is a very secular magazine, Coined this generation the "ME" Generation. And if you want to know the Bible take on this, Jesus said the Children of the Desolate are far greater than the Children of the Righteous.

    Even Cain was religious. Offered a sacrifice to God and then slew his Brother when God accepted Abel's offering over his. Tell me, the people you just mention, do they exhibit Cain's attributes or Abel's even from a rhetorical standpoint.
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    Or maybe I can post my opinions whenever and wherever I ing feel like it, got.
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    [QUOTE=Cry Havoc;8477853]

    Jesus was a campaigner for human rights for all people.

    [QUOTE]

    But he didn't tolerate sin. Basically, crimes and sins that use to exact an punishment here on earth no longer applied. He took things from a physical nature to a Spiritual one. Doesn't mean started accepting people's immorality. I don't think he said, "Go and sin no more." as a catch phrase.
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    Well of course this country is full of assholes...look at all support Trump is getting. And where did I say only Christians are assholes? , you mother ers are defensive this morning.

    I'm not an asshole as a general rule, but if someone is going to get all gy and whiny I have no problem taking that route, hence my response to Mr. Asshurt Christian. My comment about religion being pointless is more about structured religion. I believe in a higher power but I don't go around claiming I know how said power operates or try to mold others into that belief. No one is right, so stop ing claiming you have all the answers. Just live your life and try to help people out along the way.
    Sounds like you claim to have the answer? Your answer is that No one is right so there is no answer? That doesn't even make sense.
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    My point was directed at the fact that you claim that today's generation has no faith, when in reality the prior generations that you seem to be referring to (I assume including your own) discriminated en masse against people of other skin tones (and guess what, they still do).

    Jesus was a campaigner for human rights for all people.

    What's odd is you conflating a couple living unmarried in the same house with a lack of faith or morals? That's just a tired argument. Women have the ability to not depend on men who beat them anymore, again, a vestige of the past generations that was supposedly so "full of faith".

    See, this is what's confusing to me about what you say. He was talking in general. Obviously we all agree racism or beating women isn't a product of faith, but cowboy mentioned other examples to establish his comparison.
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    Manu admitted that he was an Atheist during a Reddit Q&A session to a fan who had asked him if he was religious.
    And then DPG got butthurt like
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    Yep. And Parker is the most left wing guy on the team and French, so probably atheist or agnostic as well. Never heard a peep about God from Popovich, either.
    Pop's probably the most left wing guy on the team.
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    Who cares. Everyone has a right to believe what they want. But when we die, truth is ultimately revealed.
    I never get that argument, it presupposes an afterlife. I'm guessing when I die nothing will be revealed to me because the physical processes that would allow me to think have ceased.
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    If there is no God, what is there to fear.
    Not being alive? Being alive is awesome. It sucks it has to end.
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