Paul

[Sean Cagney]

Peyton is a 2 - time NFL champion and the greatest (statistical) QB ever, while Chris Paul's ass can't even make it to the conference finals.

Terrible comparison. He's more like Barry Sanders or Dan Marino.

Dan Marino atleast made a SB appearance and Afc le games tbh... Barry is the Goat RB imo and never had the team around him to win it all so bad comparisons again

[exstatic]

Whats disappointing is the Spurs have no answer for the double high pick and roll screen. Got abused everytime they went to it. Clippers eventually stopped in the 3rd/4th and they couldn't score after. Just like last year's playoffs though when they spammed that play to death and the Spurs had no counter. Just let Kawhi get screened off Paul and he got open midrange or layups

They stopped because Pop put Kawhi on him, and he can get to your shot or knock the ball loose, even if you get past him and turn the corner. Recognize. KL2 shut the ing door on their offense.

[bklynspursfan]

Kawhi did a good job on him in the 2nd half. Paul scored 18 of his 22 in the first half.

Every shot he throws up I fear it's going in.. he's a great player and does a great job of keeping his dribble alive. Whines a ton, but the guy is a stud for sure.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

They stopped because Pop put Kawhi on him, and he can get to your shot or knock the ball loose, even if you get past him and turn the corner. Recognize. KL2 shut the ing door on their offense.

+1000000

[100%duncan]

Piece of

[look_at_g_shred]

Say what you want about his annoying on-court antics, but he's a ridiculously good basketball player tbh, especially at his size. He annoys the out of me too when we play them, but at the end of the day, I'd take him on the Spurs in a heartbeat.

Yep we hate him because he's so good.

[KenziE]

Piece of

Wahahaha true that

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He's a great player, but the reason I dislike him is his ability to make the officials look so bad at their jobs. He armbars his defenders, flinches at everything and threw his chest under Kawhi ON THE BASELINE to draw a "charge". They keep rewarding him with whistles so his antics continue.

[LakerHater]

Jus wait till saturday, you'll see Draymond cry like he does terribly every game!

[Horse]

He's a great player, but the reason I dislike him is his ability to make the officials look so bad at their jobs. He armbars his defenders, flinches at everything and threw his chest under Kawhi ON THE BASELINE to draw a "charge". They keep rewarding him with whistles so his antics continue.

He's as bad as harden with this type of . Those fouls on patty were bull .

[gambit1990]

i don't hate him or even dislike him. yeah, he es and complains too much... but even with that being said, his great play out shadows that. would love to have him on the spurs. high bb iq.

[J_Paco]

Dan Marino atleast made a SB appearance and Afc le games tbh... Barry is the Goat RB imo and never had the team around him to win it all so bad comparisons again

Exactly, in your opinion. He is the best "pure" running back but isn't the blocker or receiver that many other great backs were. He also never had any good team success even with his individual greatness, so Chris Paul is an apt comparison.

[pookenstein]

He's as bad as harden with this type of . Those fouls on patty were bull .

Disagree with the last part.Timmy does the rip through too. It's just a smart play.

I do dislike his constant shining though.

[ElNono]

First of all, Manning was literally the worst QB to win a Super Bowl in NFL history, this season..stop it..you could have replaced with him literally any QB in the NFL and the Broncos wouldn't have lost anything..giving him credit for the ring is the equivalent of giving Jeff Ayres credit for ringing in 2014..

He was terrible during his first SB run, as well..3 TDs vs. 7 INTs and a 70 QB Rating in the playoffs..giving him credit for being a "Super Bowl winner", despite being underwhelming in 1 and a complete non-factor in the other is pretty silly IMO

I compared the 2 because they are the most intelligent on-field/court players in their respective sports, they both have amazing regular season stats(Chris Paul has historically great stats for his position..if you consider advanced metrics, he's probably the greatest PG of all-time during the RS) as micro-managers that call their own plays and are not able to adapt to any style outside of their own..Manning was never able to play a different style of football that didn't have him running the entire team(which never worked, and why he is considered an underwhelming playoff performer), and Paul is the same way..

Basically, what you're saying is Manning is the Tony Parker of QBs...

[steeledl]

Probably will go down as one of the greatest players to never win a ring unless he latches on somewhere late in his career.

[HarlemHeat37]

Should have known you'd come with the same old bull , per par. If "any QB could have done it" then why did Denver bench the far more capable, athletic and younger Brock Osweiler in favor of old, broken down and sorry ass Peyton Manning? It was because although he is a s of his former self he won't make enough mistakes that will cost you the game. He can play with in his (many) limitations and he helped stabilize a team that was highly inconsistent and teetering on the edge of falling apart. The defense won Denver the championship, but I doubt they would have even gotten to the Super Bowl without Manning's leadership and poise.

How did it "never work" when the man has 4 Super Bowl appearances and 2 victories in his resumé? You can attempt to discredit him all you like but you can't change that fact, buddy. His failures had a lot to do with (a lot of) poor playoff performances but also from having some historically ty defenses (early on in Indianapolis and 2 seasons ago in Denver). Anyway, Paul is much more like Barry Sanders, the greatest "pure" position player of his generation (maybe ever) but a guy that never, ever accomplishes as much team success as he should. While his rivals and peers (Curry/Parker) win with better balanced and overall teams (i.e. Emmitt Smith).

Paul is a great guard that will never see team success until he finds a situation where he isn't the best player and can play a more complimentary role. I don't believe his (on-court) stubbornness and ego will allow that to happen any time soon.

Bro, I'm a Broncos fan(check the NFL forum)..it's a fact that they had the worst offense to ever win a SB, and Manning had literally the worst statistical playoff run for a QB that made the SB in history..you can praise his "leadership and poise" all you want, but it's completely meaningless when you can't move the ball for more than 1 drive per game..giving him credit for this ring is ludicrous..

Osweiler is a very mediocre QB that played poorly for most of his stint, this season..his numbers were terrible, he can't read defenses, he led the NFL in sack % due to his inability to audible and adjust, and he isn't athletic or mobile..he got benched with the hope that Manning would be better after his "injuries", though, which doesn't disprove my point, at all..Manning returned and was just as bad as he was prior to his "injuries"..

Anyways, comparing NFL wins vs. NBA wins doesn't make sense for obvious reasons, I was simply comparing their style and personalities, as PG and QB are the only comparable positions in these respective sports..

[Sean Cagney]

Exactly, in your opinion. He is the best "pure" running back but isn't the blocker or receiver that many other great backs were. He also never had any good team success even with his individual greatness, so Chris Paul is an apt comparison.

Paul has had talent around him though in LAC and NO you must admit. There is no reason they should have lost to the Spurs that year in 08 after dominating the first two games and then going on to lose a game 7 at home. That was a very good team, they blew their shot. Last year in Houston when they had a huge lead as well they had a shot to advance and blew that 3-1 lead in the series smh.. His teams are just cursed

Barry Sanders was there with Erik Kramer and Scott Mitc as his QB's mannnnn , poor guy.

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Disagree with the last part.Timmy does the rip through too. It's just a smart play.

IMS, the NBA made that play a point of emphasis, said they'd stop awarding free throws for it, and Tim Duncan was the person they cited as an example of what not to do. This was probably five years ago. I don't remember the last time Duncan did it, much less did it and got sent to the line for it.

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Osweiler is a very mediocre QB that played poorly for most of his stint, this season..his numbers were terrible, he can't read defenses, he led the NFL in sack % due to his inability to audible and adjust, and he isn't athletic or mobile..he got benched with the hope that Manning would be better after his "injuries", though, which doesn't disprove my point, at all..Manning returned and was just as bad as he was prior to his "injuries"..

This gives me hope that the Texans will continue to stink for the near future.

[pookenstein]

IMS, the NBA made that play a point of emphasis, said they'd stop awarding free throws for it, and Tim Duncan was the person they cited as an example of what not to do. This was probably five years ago. I don't remember the last time Duncan did it, much less did it and got sent to the line for it.

I think I've seen him do it this year two/three times where he was rewarded FT's. Granted not nearly as much as Paul and Durant do it (by a mile not).

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I think I've seen him do it this year two/three times where he was rewarded FT's. Granted not nearly as much as Paul and Durant do it (by a mile not).

Then the refs can't even follow the instructions of the ing league. No wonder they called that baseline charge on Kawhi.

[313]

Basically, what you're saying is Manning is the Tony Parker of QBs...

I'd say Peyton is the Steve Nash of the NFL. Both great offensive players, but neither played defense.

[letmk]

Peyton's won it all twice, though. Paul hasn't sniffed WCF. I'd say he's the Barry Bonds of the NBA, tbh.

Steroids or not, CP3 is nowhere near the individual talent that Bonds had. CP3 is a FINE player, but nobody fears him, let alone at Bonds' level.

[CGD]

Inhale his antics just like the next guy, but boy is he a beast

[Horse]

Disagree with the last part.Timmy does the rip through too. It's just a smart play.

I do dislike his constant shining though.

Doesnt make up for all the obvious calls Timmy doesn't get. While gots like Paul get phantom calls with their tornado flops.