Warriors are terrifying, tbh..

[dabom]

Idk bruh, hater is also a ing idiot.

Hater does it for the laughs bro. Like you can tell he is trying to be wrong sometimes.

Mid "thinks" he is right.

[BSfromTX]

No bogut= Duncan bench

i don't think it's crazy to say Duncan would cancel him out...

iggy? Meh

[Chinook]

Easy now....

But who's minutes you give Butler tonight??

Martin and probably some of Anderson's.

[YGWHI]

In the future, the bench has to do way better if the Spurs want a good chance of beating them. That's two games now the Spurs' bench has been outplayed by the Warriors bench, though Diaw starting had something to do with that today. The Spurs shouldn't get outscored when Green and Curry are both on the bench.

We can keep saying the Warriors don't have a bench but Livingstong had 4 steals in this game and 13 points in the last...

[midnightpulp]

Yeah, it's a statement that you thinking the Spurs' D wouldn't affect the Splash Bros was silly.

No other elite defense, Spurs included, has affected them this season. What evidence should I have went on? Last season is last season. It has no bearing on the present, and at present, Curry and sometimes Klay, have looked out of this world.

It's not irrelevant to the fact that getting blown out by a great team is no big deal. Again, it's like two great pool players. One often gets blown out when they face each other because the best run the table when they are on their games. Blowouts aren't a big deal. This is not a new concept.

Of course, but that was a different kind of blowout. The Spurs were playing their historically great defense then as they are now, and allowed 120 points. I wouldn't call that "no big deal."

Y

ou should stop expecting that. It's not going to happen. He's not going to score 15 every night obviously. But he'll be around 25 and near 1ppp. The adjustments the Warriors make aren't going to be for him to get better looks. They will be for the other guys to take advantage of the switching and hedging. And if GS decides that they need to play big to match the Spurs, those plays won't work as well.

Let's flashback to '01.

Chinook: Kobe and Shaq only average about 56ppg combined, and the Lakers are 56-26 have looked unimpressive all year (see their 3.74 srs compared to our 7.92). We're the best defense in the league, so "logically," Shaq and Kobe should be held below their season averages. You should stop expecting that.

What happened? Shaq and Kobe averaged 60.3 ppg against the Spurs in the WCF. And it was in relatively limited minutes (by playoff standards) since all those games were blowouts.

You really need to spot thinking of this in terms of ppg. It's just silly. Thompson and Curry average 52 ppg on average. They're not going to get better against the Spurs defense.

See '01. And yes, simplifying down to PPG isn't the best analysis (as I admitted in that thread), but I will still maintain that the odds are in Curry/Klay's favor to outscore our two big guns by 10-15 points over a series.

You could have used basic logic and realized that defense always matters.

See '01.

When dealing with historical anomalies, such as those '01 Lakers were and these Warriors are, logic doesn't apply as neatly as you would like to believe.

[HemisfairArena]

owned

Is that your boyfriend,,,,she picked the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl,,,,should I shove that up both your asses?

[dabom]

Taking this back 15 years.

Chinook can't evole his basketball IQ over that time.

[dabom]

Shook.

[midnightpulp]

Hater does it for the laughs bro. Like you can tell he is trying to be wrong sometimes.

Mid "thinks" he is right.

I am right a good 90% of the time, though.

It's cute how your antagonism is fueled by me advocating for Parker, though. That Parker hates runs pretty deep, doesn't it?

[Joseph Kony]

Is that your boyfriend,,,,she picked the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl,,,,should I shove that up both your asses?

the you talking about got. you got your chin nutted on. Take the L and move on. i dont even watch football

[dabom]

I am right a good 90% of the time, though.

It's cute how your antagonism is fueled by me advocating for Parker, though. That Parker hates runs pretty deep, doesn't it?

I don't hate Tony Parker. I hate ty takes. I just bumped one of yours.

[HemisfairArena]

What u talkin' about, princess? I'm white and have a brain,,,what color are you?

[dabom]

Kawhi is good. Kawhi should be mvp. Kawhi 1st in RPM. LMA gud... aren't takes brah.

Tony should be designated 3rd scorer is.

Spurs need a "keven luv" player... is a take.

[midnightpulp]

Oh well, narrative is changing...he wasn't outplayed during the whole series...I'd like to know how it will change in the next three posts.

Leab Kiwi alone

So you think Kawhi should be in' excused for letting himself get outplayed by a broken down scrub in 2 consecutive closeout games?

"Well, he didn't get outplayed in like the first 4 games."

We make fun of Kobe all the time for getting outplayed by Bruce Bowen in an important road playoff game. Your man-crush should be held to the same standards. He got outplayed by Matt Barnes. Deal with it, and move on. Quit acting like a rube.

[Mugen]

Props to Harlem for being able to still rile up Spurfan after a big win tbh....

[midnightpulp]

Kawhi is good. Kawhi should be mvp. Kawhi 1st in RPM. LMA gud... aren't takes brah.

Tony should be designated 3rd scorer is.

Spurs need a "keven luv" player... is a take.

Never said such.

And Kawhi should be the MVP is most definitely a take. I was also on board with LMA when you were following around Apa around like a lemming and parroting his criticism of LMA.

I actually don't think you ever had a take You basically just cut-and-past Krew takes and punctuate them with emoticons.

It's why you're a valued poster, though. Upstairs needed its Koolaid_Man, and you fit the bill, bro

[100%duncan]

After the 30 point thrashing at GS (in which Curry dropped 37 in 28 minutes), and considering how the Spurs typically have problems with athletic, high scoring back courts (Lillard and McCollum just combined for 50), I had no reason to believe otherwise. Also, Klay really isn't the main part in that equation. Curry showed in the first matchup he's capable of scoring at a 50 ppg pace against us. He's obviously not going to average 50 over a playoff series, but he's more than capable of averaging 30-35, with Klay pitching in 20-25.

Furthermore, I didn't say they would average 70, just that they are capable of scoring that in any given game, and two players who are capable of scoring those points is tough obstacle to overcome.

This game has renewed my confidence somewhat, but I still worry about our comparative lack of firepower. Like I said in another post, I hope it was just nerves that prevented the Spurs from beating down these s by 20.

Questionable calls to end the 2nd quarter.

[dabom]

Never said such.

And Kawhi should be the MVP is most definitely a take. I was also on board with LMA when you were following around Apa around like a lemming and parroting his criticism of LMA.

I actually don't think you ever had a take You basically just cut-and-past Krew takes and punctuate them with emoticons.

It's why you're a valued poster, though. Upstairs needed its Koolaid_Man, and you fit the bill, bro

You're wrong brah. Go check the history got.

I even said LMA would be the better fit in a Marc Gasol vs LMA thread well before we got either.

I stay winning got.

[YGWHI]

Leab Kiwi alone

So you think Kawhi should be in' excused for letting himself get outplayed by a broken down scrub in 2 consecutive closeout games?

"Well, he didn't get outplayed in like the first 4 games."

We make fun of Kobe all the time for getting outplayed by Bruce Bowen in an important road playoff game. Your man-crush should be held to the same standards. He got outplayed by Matt Barnes. Deal with it, and move on. Quit acting like a rube.

I said he had two bad games. No excuses for that.

But we can't forget how he carried the team in the rest of the games and then say he was outplayed by a guy during the series because that wasn't true.

[Chinook]

No other elite defense, Spurs included, has affected them this season.

Curry's be held under 40 percent shooting 10 times this season (11 including tonight). Thompson 16 times (17 including tonight). You REALLY need to get it out of your head that they go crazy every game.

Last season is last season. It has no bearing on the present, and at present, Curry and sometimes Klay, have looked out of this world.

The first game is in the past and had no bearing after it happened. It was simply a lack of any analysis to assume that was going to carry over. Are you scared of DeRozan too?

Of course, but that was a different kind of blowout.

It really wasn't. No one ever looks good in a blowout. It's never going to be a typical statistical game for a great team that gets s acked.

Chinook: Kobe and Shaq only average about 56ppg combined, and the Lakers are 56-26 have looked unimpressive all year (see their 3.74 srs compared to our 7.92). We're the best defense in the league, so "logically," Shaq and Kobe should be held below their season averages. You should stop expecting that.

What happened? Shaq and Kobe averaged 60.3 ppg against the Spurs in the WCF. And it was in relatively limited minutes (by playoff standards) since all those games were blowouts.

Lol at the past only mattering when you say it should matter. Lakers stars gained 3.1 ppg, so the Warriors gaining 8-18 just makes sense. That's also ignoring that the Spurs defense now is great because it has multiple elite defenders rather than depending on one who also had to check the best offensive player ever. Love the superficial analysis.

And yes, simplifying down to PPG isn't the best analysis (as I admitted in that thread), but I will still maintain that the odds are in Curry/Klay's favor to outscore our two big guns by 10-15 points over a series.

That's an irrelevant factor by itself. If the Spurs focus their defense on keeping the role-players from going off, it simply doesn't matter if Curry and Thompson outscore Leonard and LMA. This isn't fantasy baskeball.

When dealing with historical anomalies, such as those '01 Lakers were and these Warriors are, logic doesn't apply as neatly as you would like to believe.

Lol at thinking that justifies skin-deep analysis. The Spurs are just as much of an anomaly as GS is. You have no problem dismissing them.

[midnightpulp]

I said he had two bad games. No excuses for that.

But we can't forget how he carried the team in the rest of the games and then say he was outplayed by a guy during the series because that wasn't true.

Nope:

A road win in a close game, Duncan was the best player:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...504220LAC.html

Game 5, another close game on the road. Duncan, once again, was the best player:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...504280LAC.html

I would rate game 5 as a wash between Kawhi and Duncan:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...504260SAS.html

Kawhi carried the Spurs.

The road is where playoff greats shine, and Kawhi was beyond underwhelming at Staples in that series, while the greatest Spur (and forever will be) was forced to step up and do it himself.

But yeah, 32 points in a 37 point win. Way to carry the load, Kiwi

(and yes, I'm still in' salty about the series.)

[tim_duncan_fan]

If I were a Warriors fan, I'd be thinking "oh " right now.

Nah. Bogut out, Curry played like , 2nd night of back to back. They still were in position to break away.

If was a couple plays difference from them being up 10 at the end of the game.

Those guys can flat out play basketball and we'd better hope that our little crew of dingbats being able to play disciplined defense against them for a sustained period of time wasn't a fluke.

Usually when we play teams with more than one guy who can dribble a basketball, we freak the out and lose our concentration on D.


Tonight was the first night that we looked halfway legitimate on defense against another top 4 team and the other team was missing guys and on the tail end of a back to back.

Neither the Spurs not their fans should be feeling y.

They need to realize that the not-taking-care-of-the-ball isn't going to fly and get their noses back against the ing grindstone.

This game doesn't prove anything other than that the Warriors don't play as well when they are tired.

[Kawhitstorm]

Spurs-Warriors will probably be 2002 Kings-Lakers, tbh..can't remember a West series with as much potential hype..

Spurs/Suns (2007) when it was supposed to be the Suns year after the Mavs got bounced by the Worriers. The winner of the series was EXPECTED to win it all b/c the Jazz/Worriers weren't in their league & the Leastern conference was trash that season. The long running rivalry, D'Antoni vs Pop, the "Horry Hip Check" & the later revealed Donaghy controversy added fuel to the fire.

[YGWHI]

Nope:

A road win in a close game, Duncan was the best player:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...504220LAC.html

In game 2, Kawhi scored 23 points and his man Re was 4-12. So you said Tim was the best player because he scored 5 more points when he took 7 more shots?

Game 5, another close game on the road. Duncan, once again, was the best player:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...504280LAC.html


I would rate game 5 as a wash between Kawhi and Duncan:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...504260SAS.html

So Kawhi played great in 2 of those 3 games. But yeah...he was outplayed by a scrub in the series

[midnightpulp]

Curry's be held under 40 percent shooting 10 times this season (11 including tonight). Thompson 16 times (17 including tonight). You REALLY need to get it out of your head that they go crazy every game.

11 times is in' nothing for a volume shooter that shoots 11 threes per game. Curry's raw FG% is not created equal, either. I bet those sub-40% efforts still had a relatively decent TS%.

The first game is in the past and had no bearing after it happened. It was simply a lack of any analysis to assume that was going to carry over. Are you scared of DeRozan too?

True. But they are the defending champions playing at a historically, best of all-time level. They've proven what they can do, and I'm not just going to glibly underestimate them because the Spurs can play some defense.

It really wasn't. No one ever looks good in a blowout. It's never going to be a typical statistical game for a great team that gets s acked.

Post all the 120 point games+30 point losses the mid-00s or 2013-14 Spurs allowed? I'll even allow for 110-80. I'll save you the trouble. They don't exist. So yes, an elite Spurs team, perhaps the best Spurs team we've seen yet, getting beat down like that in a hyped match up is a cause of concern.

Lol at the past only mattering when you say it should matter. Lakers stars gained 3.1 ppg, so the Warriors gaining 8-18 just makes sense. That's also ignoring that the Spurs defense now is great because it has multiple elite defenders rather than depending on one who also had to check the best offensive player ever. Love the superficial analysis.

You missed the point. My point in citing that situation was that you can't always assume player performance is going to trend downward because it's in the playoffs against a great defensive team. And yes, Curry/Klay are more than capable of adding those points. They can 40mpg per in the playoffs.

That's an irrelevant factor by itself. If the Spurs focus their defense on keeping the role-players from going off, it simply doesn't matter if Curry and Thompson outscore Leonard and LMA. This isn't fantasy baskeball.

They have better role players than us.

Lol at thinking that justifies skin-deep analysis. The Spurs are just as much of an anomaly as GS is. You have no problem dismissing them.

Yes they are. I agree with Ghazi's post in the main forum that the Spurs are one of the greatest (regular) teams of all-time despite being overshadowed (or maybe this season is just really weak). But a bigger anomaly exists, unfortunately.

I still have hope, and believe we have a puncher's chance.