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    Sure, but one game doesn't make you historic defensively. GS was playing their 9th game in 14 days and were without three key rotation players. Wake me when they do it three more times. Also, some of the Spurstalk pundits like to talk about how the Warriors have been slipping defensively since the All Star break. Yet the Spurs vaunted offense, currently T-6th in the league could only muster 90 points on 41% shooting against a team that featured zero rim protection. If the Spurs expect to hold the Warriors to below 85 points for an entire series in order to win games, they're in for a serious reality check.

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    i did not say we did bad defense. ok defense, may be one level better than ok. but pace was very important last game
    I thought the defense was fantastic. Sure the pace had an effect on how many shots the Warriors took, but at the same time, those shots they got to take were defended really well. It was amazing defense, combined with pace dictation that produced the 79pt output by the Warriors.

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    Great Defense...helped dictate the slow pace. In this case, it's not one or the other.

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    All the haters on social media and NBA analysts are all saying the same thing after the loss: the Spurs won't be able to play defense like that in a 7-game series.

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    Sure, but one game doesn't make you historic defensively. GS was playing their 9th game in 14 days and were without three key rotation players. Wake me when they do it three more times. Also, some of the Spurstalk pundits like to talk about how the Warriors have been slipping defensively since the All Star break. Yet the Spurs vaunted offense, currently T-6th in the league could only muster 90 points on 41% shooting against a team that featured zero rim protection. If the Spurs expect to hold the Warriors to below 85 points for an entire series in order to win games, they're in for a serious reality check.
    A serious reality check is the fact that the Cavs have no shot at beating the Warriors either. The Cavs don't look much better on both ends of the court. If the spurs don't make the finals, fine. But everyone pretty much expects the Cavs to get beatdown by the warriors in the Finals. Cavs have no chance. I would even put the Raptors over the Cavs, at this point.

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    Sure, but one game doesn't make you historic defensively. GS was playing their 9th game in 14 days and were without three key rotation players. Wake me when they do it three more times. Also, some of the Spurstalk pundits like to talk about how the Warriors have been slipping defensively since the All Star break. Yet the Spurs vaunted offense, currently T-6th in the league could only muster 90 points on 41% shooting against a team that featured zero rim protection. If the Spurs expect to hold the Warriors to below 85 points for an entire series in order to win games, they're in for a serious reality check.
    It's not really one game... as Mel pointed out above:

    OKC-25 pts below season avg.
    LAC-17 pts below season avg.
    GSW- 36 pts below season avg.
    We basically locked up the best defensive rating for the season back in December. That's how good defense was to start the season.

    It's true we had up and downs throughout the season, that's pretty normal, but this team really is capable of playing historical defense when they really execute. It doesn't guarantee anything, it just means that at their peak, they're historically good at it.

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    I just don't understand why this isn't getting talked about not only on this forum but in the media. All I've heard is excuses on the Warriors being short handed and Curry missed ones he makes..

    But they were held 36pts under their average. I'm sorry Iggy, Bogut and Ezeli help but they're not exactly offensive juggernauts.

    Like when have we seen a defense like this?? 05' Pistons? 05' Spurs?

    Anybody can come up with reasons why Spurs did this or Warriors did that..and I'll just say

    79pts.
    It's barely getting talked about, because the media, their fans and their closet fans, had their litany of excuses lined up and in a general sense, have already decided that the Spurs can't beat the Warriors. Even if they beat them in the playoffs, the narrative will be that the Warriors lost. Also, most people don't know much about team defense.

    This game was a defensive masterpiece though. This was not a case of "they missed shots they normally make". Of course, there was some of that, just like there has been in every basketball game ever played, at any level, because that's inevitable. They flat out struggled to generate good looks and the only rhythm they had was thanks to shoddy third quarter officiating.

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    It's not really one game... as Mel pointed out above:



    We basically locked up the best defensive rating for the season back in December. That's how good defense was to start the season.

    It's true we had up and downs throughout the season, that's pretty normal, but this team really is capable of playing historical defense when they really execute. It doesn't guarantee anything, it just means that at their peak, they're historically good at it.
    Why did he bring up the reeling Clippers? Is that suppose to be impressive or something? Anyways, a lot of that has to do with pace, less possession by opponents = less opportunities to score. They have a very good defense, but historic? For that, they need to show up at home and on the road. Since the league is dreck this year, there aren't many road games to look at but, vs GS 12O, vs OKC 112, vs CLE 117, vs LC 105. You'll have me when they stifle OKC and GS on the road. Also, GS held the Spurs to 18 points below their season average; OKC held the Spurs to 10 points below their season average on 40% FG% (16th in total defense); Cleveland held the Spurs to 12 points below their season average; Clippers held the Spurs to 19 points below their season average. None of those teams are historical defensively. The Spurs are the best overall defense in the league but they're only a percentage point ahead of Atlanta and two percentage points ahead of GS in opponents FG% and I wouldn't consider either of those teams historically great defensive teams. However, if the Spurs were historically great, those teams would have to be in the conversation, wouldn't they?

    You may be right but I'm not convinced yet. Let's see how they do against OKC and GS on the road.

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    Why did he bring up the reeling Clippers? Is that suppose to be impressive or something? Anyways, a lot of that has to do with pace, less possession by opponents = less opportunities to score. They have a very good defense, but historic? For that, they need to show up at home and on the road. Since the league is dreck this year, there aren't many road games to look at but, vs GS 12O, vs OKC 112, vs CLE 117, vs LC 105. You'll have me when they stifle OKC and GS on the road. Also, GS held the Spurs to 18 points below their season average; OKC held the Spurs to 10 points below their season average on 40% FG% (16th in total defense); Cleveland held the Spurs to 12 points below their season average; Clippers held the Spurs to 19 points below their season average. None of those teams are historical defensively. The Spurs are the best overall defense in the league but they're only a percentage point ahead of Atlanta and two percentage points ahead of GS in opponents FG% and I wouldn't consider either of those teams historically great defensive teams. However, if the Spurs were historically great, those teams would have to be in the conversation, wouldn't they?

    You may be right but I'm not convinced yet. Let's see how they do against OKC and GS on the road.
    Just wanted to point out that it doesn't matter if the Clippers are reeling for that number to work. They've been reeling for quite some time, but, win or lose, most other teams can't hold them to those numbers.

    And I should add, I did put the condition of "when they execute". They don't do it every game, and that's something they'll need to do consistently during the playoffs. There's also the fact that on the road, even if you execute, sometimes the whistle won't let you do it. But, there's no reason not to try, because the tools are there to be special on that end, and if they do manage to do it, they'll be hard to beat.

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    Elite Defense > Elite Offense

    Defense wins championships. Everyone knows that...especially Spurs fans.

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    All the haters on social media and NBA analysts are all saying the same thing after the loss: the Spurs won't be able to play defense like that in a 7-game series.
    Unless someone gets injured or breaks down its possible. The guys doing the heavy lifting are young and have played in the postseason or are NBA Champions, who the heck they think they are talking about? Now if Tony has a malady then yea, that is too bad indeed. Really the team switched a lot, it wasn't taxing on a singular person exclusively. Now GSW is very capable of hitting tough shots and play with fire, them having a better games is a possibility, but defense has been our calling card all season and the guys seem very motivated.

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