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How 'wingstop' gets constantly torched by black holes like Monta Ellis and Jeremy Rin and never receives criticism is beyond me..
1. Timmy obviously occupies this spot. And well deserved. This franchise would be in St. Louis or some if not for him.
2. David Robinson? We've criticized his Karl Malone like regression before, but other than that, we don't disparage him.
3. Kawhi Leonard. Only the anti-Krew really criticizes him, and it's more out of trolling the Krew than actual criticism. Even I joke about Matt Barnes once in awhile, but Kawhi has pretty much been the perfect player during his Spurs tenure.
4. Danny Green. Again, only the anti-Krew criticizes him, but he's been anything but the perfect player. He's indeed a solid player and already a Spur legend, but he can go 0-12 (or a combined 2-19 in the final two closeout games of the NBA Finals) and amazingly escape criticism and have excuses made on his behalf ("That's why we call him IcyHot!" "He'll go LDN in the playoffs!" "Parker, something, something.") I don't get the blind love affair. He's a phenomenal defender, but still has gaping flaws all around that can many times be a big detriment, even when he's shutting people down.
5. Patty Mills. See above. The same dynamic applies here as it does to Green. And again, I don't get the blind love affair.
6. Bruce Bowen. We all love us some Bruce, and his flaws are indeed lost among his strengths. He was also never really a detriment in a big playoff series in his prime.
7. Big Shot Bob. Same dynamic here as with Bowen.
8. Boris Diaw. Any ty performance from him is excused as "coasting" or some .
All I can think of off the top of my head, except for Gervin, but Spurstalk didn't exist when he played, obviously.
How 'wingstop' gets constantly torched by black holes like Monta Ellis and Jeremy Rin and never receives criticism is beyond me..
Danny Green is probably the most criticized rotation player in SpursTalk history, only behind Manu and Bonner, tbh..not sure where you've been the past 3 years, but there's always at least a month during the RS where half the forum wants him benched..
Kawhi gets criticized just as much as Parker when he performs poorly..go check out the month on ST following the Clippers series, for example..no, it's not just the shtick posters, nobody really notices when those posters say anything, tbh..
The only current Spur that is immune from criticism is Duncan, clearly..mid is my guy, but this is clearly an agenda-driven thread
Parker was also untouchable until last year..he got killed earlier in his career by a lot of Spurs fans, but that ended in 2007..the "leaders" of this forum like timvp and Bruno would kill you if you said a bad word about him, while the latter would constantly take subtle shots at Ginobili
That le easily goes to Bonner, tbh.
Some good points there. Frankly I criticize guys all the time who deserve it except Anderson, he already gets flamed on a daily basis and his good games are swept under the rug. That kind of got me initially in his corner and he's now my protege.
He's probably on the opposite of that list after Tony and considering the small role he has the flame is probably out of proportion.
Boris and Patty are probably the two most lovable characters in the team just wildly inconsistent. Patty plays with effort so he's giving you what he has, he's just small and unable to affect the game defensively for the most part. Boris is lazy. Always you get the feeling he could be better and do more than he does.
Timmy has had many off and poor games but it is indeed rough to criticize him and frankly he's getting benched when he's not having a good game or can't handle a match up, so he sets the example for everyone else. He's already done so much too and is GOAT level for big men. When I criticize him it's more in the perspective of the current makeup of the team and lineups he can make better or worse bc he's more limited now.
Kawhi is the best player in the team. Sometimes he will have a rough shooting night but it's rare and his effort is there on a nightly basis. Doesn't get as much respect from the refs as he should.
Danny kind of falls in the Anderson bucket list for me. Gets too much hate for a smaller role in the SL as others and very unappreciated when he can't bail out others offensively. You have to understand what his role is to put him in perspective. Now when he's not performing that role well then I have an issue.
Pity post. Let some traffic in here...
Well, I'm late to continuous upstairs participation as you know (really only posted here frequently for about a year) and the only criticisms I see toward Green and Kawhi are from the Cat Krew who are simply looking to troll the "Krew" since Danny and Kawhi are Krew favorites. Danny can go 0-9, but somehow, the blame always gets shifted to Tony (and you know I was one of the original Tony bashers, going to war with Jag, Brazil, etc over it), but the trend of the last two seasons has been to blame Tony for pretty much everything.Danny Green is probably the most criticized rotation player in SpursTalk history, only behind Manu and Bonner, tbh
Kawhi gets criticized just as much as Parker when he performs poorly..go check out the month on ST following the Clippers series, for example..no, it's not just the shtick posters, nobody really notices when those posters say anything, tbh..
The only current Spur that is immune from criticism is Duncan, clearly..mid is my guy, but this is clearly an agenda-driven thread
Parker was also untouchable until last year..he got killed earlier in his career by a lot of Spurs fans, but that ended in 2007..the "leaders" of this forum like timvp and Bruno would kill you if you said a bad word about him, while the latter would constantly take subtle shots at Ginobili
With Danny, any poor offensive performance is handwaved away with, "But his defense!" And as important as that side of the ball is, you can still be a detriment as a great defender when your offense is poor.
Or traded... a schtick Anderson joined in. Who wants to package the two of them for.. oh wait it wasn't that kind of thread.Danny Green is probably the most criticized rotation player in SpursTalk history, only behind Manu and Bonner, tbh
So what can we get for Tony at this stage of his career and that $29m left on his deal?
His role is to knock down open threes and play defense. hes absolutely terrible at HALF of his role.
99% of the leonard critics are troll accounts like greatyacht or koolaidbob love. as far as actual posters, it's basically sacrilege to say anything negative about him
Richard Jefferson was the most criticized role player. But yes, Green is up there.Danny Green is probably the most criticized rotation player in SpursTalk history, only behind Manu and Bonner, tbh
Kawhi gets criticized just as much as Parker when he performs poorly..go check out the month on ST following the Clippers series, for example..no, it's not just the shtick posters, nobody really notices when those posters say anything, tbh..
The only current Spur that is immune from criticism is Duncan, clearly..mid is my guy, but this is clearly an agenda-driven thread
Parker was also untouchable until last year..he got killed earlier in his career by a lot of Spurs fans, but that ended in 2007..the "leaders" of this forum like timvp and Bruno would kill you if you said a bad word about him, while the latter would constantly take subtle shots at Ginobili
Boban.
Everyone loves him.
I actually feel bad for green. He made history in that 2013 finals and today you'd think he's one if the worst 3pt shooters in the league. You can always count on his defense but it makes you wonder how games like these go if he could hit a few 3s.
wtf? Danny Green is most critizied spirs player in spurs basketball history.
The thing is for me.. and I am marginal to the crews bc I am a recent forum member and there is no Anderson crew right?
Kawhi last season the first as a featured player was full of struggle in itself.
Fans are unrealistic expecting I guess to get KAT at the 15th and 30th spot in the draft. You have to credit Kawhi for his struggle but he had 4 years to grow into it. Danny is more limited in the tools he has than Kawhi is, but it's a kind of similar struggle of his own to try to diversify his game bc the possibility is that with a declining Manu he was going to have to do more as the main SG. His #1 role is still probably defense though and the open shot. It was still very difficult to see Danny struggle and when he didn't bring the defensive effort he got benched for Simmons.
T9 is purely an offensive player, so when he doesnt bring it offensively you feel like he's not doing his job. He didn't bring it last season and even non crew members fans were going to be critical + he was lit up on the other end. I am not as critical of him right now bc he's transitioning his game and going through a phase that will have him struggle. While some guys are struggling to get better (youngster Anderson), others are struggling to diversify their games ( Green), Tony is struggling to change his game and role. In that light quite frankly you would not find me bring too harsh on him, except he will com up short on setting others up, much like rightfully a lot if fans will criticize Anderson bc he isn't ready. It's a think a development in Tonya game at this stage IMO.
Manu right now is struggling to regain his preinjury form and we are probably on red alert if he doesn't find it. The few guys who have lately gotten on my grill are Boris bc his laziness and again he has a pretty well defined role that hasn't changed, nor does it need adjustment, and he shouldn't be going through any struggled at this point. Even Patty sometimes I have to keep in perspective bc he's also changing his game to make more plays off the dribble than he used to make.
It's telling you misspell spurs but not .
this. there are a handful of danny loyalists like myself, and then there is chinook who is on an entirely different level... but danny gets blasted all the time here
True, I've erased him from my memory
1. Jefferson
2. Bonner
3. Ginobili
4. Green
5. ??
For the OG's it was Rasho
Is it usually in game threads, though? People kneejerk criticize in the heat of the moment, obviously.
If Parker went 0-7, there would be an avalanche of criticism from the usuals. But Danny will get maybe one thread, and it's from a Cat Krew member. I probably missed the height of the Danny criticism years, but it just seems he's been untouchable since 2014. Patty House, as well.
no, danny gets serious criticism all year
Gervin...
It's the same 5-7 posters that have been criticizing Parker, this season
The number of posters that constantly bash him isn't any higher than the Manu haters, Green haters, etc..
Last year, sure, but I don't see it nowadays..
Boris Diaw should be higher. He's as teflon as they come.
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