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    The original judge, by all accounts a fair non corrupt judge was *removed* from the case.
    Is this part of the due process?
    Yes.

    Why would you think it isn't?

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    Smh Brussels.
    So I suppose instead of immediately doing whatever it took to get information out of the little f-er Abdeslam, it was better to pussyfoot around and delay while his liarwyer Sven Mary and *due process* was allowed to block access.
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    Smh Brussels.
    So I suppose instead of immediately doing whatever it took to get information out of the little f-er Abdeslam, it was better to pussyfoot around and delay while his liarwyer Sven Mary and *due process* was allowed to block access.
    He was being interrogated (and, apparently, was cooperating with authorities in Belgium and had even told them that there were other attacks being planned):

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35857388

    The attacks in Brussels are ridiculous and tragic and any number of other things. But they weren't because Abdesalam was afforded due process.

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    He was being interrogated (and, apparently, was cooperating with authorities in Belgium and had even told them that there were other attacks being planned):

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35857388

    The attacks in Brussels are ridiculous and tragic and any number of other things. But they weren't because Abdesalam was afforded due process.
    Meaning maybe he was, maybe he was not.
    I find it hard to believe the lil stain did not know about todays attacks.

    Also, does France have better interrogation methods then Belgium? I don't know. I'll bet it is entirely possible.
    Sven Mary having Abdesalam delay extradition to France.

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    Meaning maybe he was, maybe he was not.
    I find it hard to believe the lil stain did not know about todays attacks.

    Also, does France have better interrogation methods then Belgium? I don't know. I'll bet it is entirely possible.
    Sven Mary having Abdesalam delay extradition to France.
    So your conjecture is more believable than the actual reporting like this from 2 days ago:

    [Belgian Foreign Minister Didier] Reynders cited information that he said had come to light since Abdeslam's arrest.

    "He was ready to restart something in Brussels," he told the German Marshall Fund of the United States meeting in the city.

    "And it's maybe the reality because we have found a lot of weapons, heavy weapons, in the first investigations and we have found a new network around him in Brussels."

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    So your conjecture is more believable than the actual reporting like this from 2 days ago:
    But did not give enough info to stop the attack.
    Are you concluding Abdeslam did not know about todays attack by his fellow terrorists?

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    lol Fabbs playing Jack Bauer at work.

    So butch....

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    But did not give enough info to stop the attack.
    Are you concluding Abdeslam did not know about todays attack by his fellow terrorists?
    I'm saying affording him due process didn't stop him from disclosing that there were other attacks being planned.

    I have no idea if he knew about these particular attacks or not and I don't know specifically what he told authorities. Neither do you.

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    I'm saying affording him due process didn't stop him from disclosing that there were other attacks being planned.
    Oh really?

    "He was ready to restart something in Brussels," he told the German Marshall Fund of the United States meeting in the city.
    "And it's maybe the reality because we have found a lot of weapons, heavy weapons, in the first investigations and we have found a new network around him in Brussels."

    So maybe Abdeslam cooperated and maybe he didn't.
    Or maybe stain knew exactly about todays blast, so gave out a small amount of truthful information to have the Belgium interrogators lighten up while buying time for the blasters to act. Possibly with coaching from Sven Phuck Liarwyer.
    I still say it's entirely possible he knew all about todays blast.

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    Fabbs might be outraged.

    Maybe.

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    Oh really?

    "He was ready to restart something in Brussels," he told the German Marshall Fund of the United States meeting in the city.
    "And it's maybe the reality because we have found a lot of weapons, heavy weapons, in the first investigations and we have found a new network around him in Brussels."

    So maybe Abdeslam cooperated and maybe he didn't.
    Or maybe stain knew exactly about todays blast, so gave out a small amount of truthful information to have the Belgium interrogators lighten up while buying time for the blasters to act. Possibly with coaching from Sven Phuck Liarwyer.
    I still say it's entirely possible he knew all about todays blast.
    So what would you have done, StalinFabbs?

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    i just want to remind everyone that fabbs has kids. Some woman procreated with him and now he is responsible for small humans.
    It's all i can ever think of when he posts.

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    So what would you have done, LifeValuingFabbs?
    Since Abdeslam already admitted guilt in the Paris bombings and his defense liarwyer Sven confirmed thus having due process.....

    I would give interrogators leeway to get Stain to talk by whatever means are necessary.
    The lives of innocents are thus put at a higher value then whether or not these two stains, Abdeslam and Sven Mary have sore vag's over potential interog methods.

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    Since Abdeslam already admitted guilt in the Paris bombings and his defense liarwyer Sven confirmed thus having due process.....

    I would give interrogators leeway to get Stain to talk by whatever means are necessary.
    The lives of innocents are thus put at a higher value then whether or not these two stains, Abdeslam and Sven Mary have sore vag's over potential interog methods.
    Do you know what interrogation methods were used with Abdesalam? Are you sure that whatever interrogation methods you might support would have actually resulted in actionable, accurate information? Do you know that Abdesalam had knowledge of the specifics of an attack on this particular date at the time he was taken into custody? If you're sure that he did (and that this wasn't pulled off by an unrelated cell) do you know that he didn't reveal that information to authorities?

    Again, the reports are that the interrogation methods being used had resulted in Abdesalam talking talking and being cooperative, so it's not as though recognition of his legal rights had prevented anyone from talking to him and its not as though insistence upon his legal rights had caused him to clam up.

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    Again, the reports are that the interrogation methods being used had resulted in Abdesalam talking talking and being cooperative, so it's not as though recognition of his legal rights had prevented anyone from talking to him and its not as though insistence upon his legal rights had caused him to clam up.
    Do you have some addition reports? Because the earlier one you posted merely said maybe he was planning "something". Vague.

    Worse yet, not saying this is a fact but check this article regarding the interrogation. Granted, it is Faux News:
    http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/...errorists.html

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    Do you have some addition reports? Because the earlier one you posted merely said maybe he was planning "something". Vague.
    So you want every tidbit of information regarding the interrogation released?

    Worse yet, not saying this is a fact but check this article regarding the interrogation. Granted, it is Faux News:
    http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/...errorists.html
    So releasing information about the interrogation was bad?

    Pick a lane.

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    Rumpy with another thread bump.

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    Rumpy with another thread bump.
    Flabby with another dodge.

    You back down so quickly -- how are the terrorist supposed to take you seriously?

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    Again, the reports are that the interrogation methods being used had resulted in Abdesalam talking talking and being cooperative, so it's not as though recognition of his legal rights had prevented anyone from talking to him and its not as though insistence upon his legal rights had caused him to clam up.
    Salah Abdeslam may have intended to take part in an attack being planned by same ISIS cell that carried out Tuesday's bombings in Brussels, a Belgian counterterrorism official tells CNN.

    Investigators believe the cell accelerated the plan when Abdeslam's hideout in the Forest district of Brussels was discovered by Belgian police last week.

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    Salah Abdeslam may have intended to take part in an attack being planned by same ISIS cell that carried out Tuesday's bombings in Brussels, a Belgian counterterrorism official tells CNN.

    Investigators believe the cell accelerated the plan when Abdeslam's hideout in the Forest district of Brussels was discovered by Belgian police last week.
    So, he was afforded due process, and he (apparently, quite likely) told them about this very plan.

    What's the problem again?

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    So, he was afforded due process, and he (apparently, quite likely) told them about this very plan.

    What's the problem again?
    So they in turn (quite likely) did not try to stop the plan?

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    Is there anything concrete you are actually upset about here, Fabbs? You seem to have worked yourself up into a lather over hypotheticals.

    I don't expect you to actually answer.

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    So they in turn (quite likely) did not try to stop the plan?
    That's not a due process problem, Fabbs. That's a law enforcement problem.

    I have no idea why you think that attack is useful evidence in an argument for limiting due process for the accused.

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    Even if you consider him to be a POW, it's difficult to say you could do as you wish considering the Geneva convention, etc. I'm sure some people will say " all that, hurr durr Murica, we're the good guys", but I'm also pretty sure the Nazis thought the same thing, and that's why we ended up coming up with the Geneva convention treaties in the first place.

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    Even if you consider him to be a POW, it's difficult to say you could do as you wish considering the Geneva convention, etc. I'm sure some people will say " all that, hurr durr Murica, we're the good guys", but I'm also pretty sure the Nazis thought the same thing, and that's why we ended up coming up with the Geneva convention treaties in the first place.
    Geneva Convention? Treaties? Cons utions? Laws?

    Pssh. If Saddam Fabbs is sure that a guy did it from reading some stuff on the interwebs, none of that stuff should be available. Period.

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