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What is it about for you?
where did i mention rape?
i'll save you the time, i didn't. nor did i imply that the only concern is physical assault. why do we currently separate mens bathrooms from womens bathrooms? is it just about rape?
What is it about for you?
I assumed that's what you meant the women were vulnerable to when you brought up their vulnerability. If it's not rape or assault, then what is it? Cleanliness?
How are they going to enforce this law are they going to force people to show their birth certificates before they enter the bathroom?
So you're saying you want to?
Mitch will check weenies at the door
IMO transgender is probably less like to rape a woman than regular dude. Since, simply put, they are not attracted to women. Every single women I've talked to about this says they'd allow it unhesitatingly.
Now, it's different in a school than in other places. In a school, you can't impersonate a woman/girl and pass yourself off as transgender since students would be able to verify whether said person is truly transgender or not (this is more or less true, depending on the size of the school, but I think regardless transgenders should have to let school authorities know if they'll be using opposite sex restrooms so unaware female students can be made aware of who they are so that they don't even have to worry in the slightest about someone who shouldn't be in there being in there).
A a school is different than other places however. In a mall for example f you've got a you should have to use the men's restroom. Too easy for a sick pervert who's never seen a pussy in his life to dress as/impersonate a woman and get away with it if we assume authenticity.
Last edited by mingus; 03-25-2016 at 01:54 PM.
No need to impersonate a woman
http://www.king5.com/news/man-womens...-rule/65533111
Seattle Parks and Recreation is facing a first-of-a-kind challenge to gender bathroom rules. A man undressed in a women's locker room, citing a new state rule that allows people to choose a bathroom based on gender iden y.
It was a busy time at Evans Pool around 5:30pm Monday February 8. The pool was open for lap swim. According to Seattle Parks and Recreation, a man wearing board shorts entered the women's locker room and took off his shirt. Women alerted staff, who told the man to leave, but he said "the law has changed and I have a right to be here."
"Really bizarre," MaryAnne Sato said. "I can't imagine why they would want to do that anyway!"
Sato uses the locker room a few times a week, but she says this is a first for her. It's also a first for Seattle Parks and Recreation. Employees report that the man made no verbal or physical attempt to identify as a woman, yet he still cited a new rule that allows bathroom choice based on gender identification.
The issue drew protesters from both sides to Olympia on Monday. Opponents claim the rule opens up bathrooms to voyeurs but supporters say that's an unrealistic fear.
No one was arrested in this case and police weren't called, even though the man returned a second time while young girls were changing for swim practice.
"Sort of works against the point they're trying to make. They're causing people to feel exposed and vulnerable with the intention of reducing people feeling exposed and vulnerable," said pool regular Aldan Shank.
The man's protest, if that's what it was, hurts the greater cause, Shank says.
As far as policy to protect everyone, Seattle Parks spokesman David Takami says they're still working on the issue. Right now, there's no specific protocol for how someone should demonstrate their gender in order to access a bathroom. Employees just rely on verbal identification or physical appearance, and this man offered neither.
"This didn't seem like a transgender issue to staff – someone who was "identifying" as a woman," Takami wrote in a statement to KING 5. "We have guidelines that allow transgender individuals to use restrooms and locker rooms consistent with their gender iden y. We want everyone to feel comfortable in our facilities."
Yeah this is where it gets tricky, and why it really only works to my liking in smaller type communities with some type of membership (ie schools). In such cases, they should have to let authorities know they'll be using opposite sex restrooms and be granted access based on their ability to provide legitimate support that they're actually transgender & not impersonators. If this means having to seeking out a psychologist and getting their acceptance, then I'm fine with that. I don't know what this Parks and Recreation place is exactly, but maybe they can do something like that. If a woman has questions about an encounter she can take it up to authorities if she wants and they can investigate whether that person has been granted access. Or maybe they can not do anything about it and let business, in terms of its profitability and safety, decide what they should do. I think all places open to public tho should implement some sort of system Like the one I suggested or something else that works.
But just allowing people to go in and out as they please is bound to cause problems or issues that could've been prevented.
The statement that transcender women aren't attracted to women isn't necessarily true. Gender iden y and sexual preference are two independent scales.
The comfort level of the occupants. Women generally feel more comfortable in a restroom with other women than with men. Did you actually think separate bathrooms exist only for purposes of rape prevention?
It's certainly not the reason stalls have doors.
7 to go Rumpy.
3/25/2016
Chump is about to hit 100K. a milestone for shilling.
which neither of us asserted in the first place
But do you think we have separate bathrooms right now just because of rape fear? What do you think the reasons are?
You're the one that asserted that they are vulnerablewhich neither of us asserted in the first place
But do you think we have separate bathrooms right now just because of rape fear? What do you think the reasons are?
Your wording led to a likely inference.which neither of us asserted in the first place
If it's comfort, is perceived comfort to be encoded in law now? Who determines the perceived comfort level?But do you think we have separate bathrooms right now just because of rape fear? What do you think the reasons are?
And vulnerable = rape?
Bathroom segregation should simply come down to hardware. There should be no swinging s in the women's restroom. this PC bull .
So when you say women are at their most vulnerable in the bathroom, what exactly are they vulnerable to?And vulnerable = rape?
Add CC to the list that wants Caitlyn with him in the same bathroom.
Anyone else?
NC law also blocks NC cities from raising min wage
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Last edited by boutons_deux; 03-25-2016 at 04:28 PM.
If he/she has the hardware to pee standing up I have no problem with it.
You have no problem with someone that looks exactly like a woman pissing in a urinal next to you. Even though you have no idea she/he has a you had no idea about until the skirt was raised at the stall.
Noted.
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