Dude really doesnt have the physical tools to dominate tbh![]()
I need this dude to grow a set of balls!! He plays way to passive for me and has the physical tools to dominate. Wake the up dude and play to your potential. Just being happy to be on the same court with some of the games greats is the wrong at ude...... become a great!! Kawhi is your example.
Dude really doesnt have the physical tools to dominate tbh![]()
Luke Walton 2.0![]()
spurs are ed if this vagina will play in the playoffs.
He definitely is passive, hesitant, and indecisive far too much. It's similar to the frustration when Boris would pass up open shots at times and Pop would chew into him.
He's shown he can post smaller guys, but he needs to spend all summer with Chip working on speeding up his release, and doing whatever he needs to do to be confident enough to take the open looks he gets. It hurts our offense with him hesitating more times than not. There is some potential for him. He has good size and vision. But he's not ready for playoffs minutes at this point in a closely contested game imho.
Inb4
"troll"
"not being used enough"
"inexperience"
OH NO the 29th pic in the draft can't guard Durant!!!!!!! THe future is ruined!!!
Wake me up when kyle is 26. If he is still not shooting open shots then he's a legit failure. until then hes a useful project.
On defense, he definitely can only use his length to make up for slowness so much. And elite guys will exploit him. But that'll never be his game. I don't think his role is even set. POP just wants him to be backup SF but his future is point forward.
he has size and length. oh and role players don't need to dominate. Judge him on the cojo scale. He was drafted in the late first like cojo. Don't compare them as players, but on development. Not every player is kawhi. No one is.
Good points. But I believe no small part of the problem rests on Pop's shoulders. He literally has played Kyle at every position this season. That is a lot of different stuff to throw at a very young guy. Some confusion should be expected. And confusion breeds hesitancy and passiveness. Pop is trying to figure out the guy's skill set and where it can be used to the best advantage. Very mentally challenging, though, for Kyle.
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When I speak of tools, it is not common place in the nba for someone 6ft9 ish with a 7"2 + wingspan , ballhandling ability, high basketball IQ..... My problem with Kyle is he doesn't want it and its so obvious. Keep your out to the side like all good defenders do and you wingspan alone helps you out immensely. Get in shape and try harder than what your presently doing!! All that soft ass interior play has to go now!!
It's not easy to go from hardly any touches to trying to dominate games. I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but the chances of someone with kyle's offensive responsibility to go from being a part of the offense to trying to a focal point of the offense is like less than 10%...It's not something that happens.
Dudes always lost in Defensive assignments!
True, but early on, many times he played with the same unit (s). For a while it was Patty/Manu/Anderson/Diaw/West starting our 2nd quarter.
That was the 6th most played unit for our team. If you swap Manu with Simmons, it's the 8th most played unit, for nights Manu was rested and/or injured.
Sure , depending on the matchup Anderson might at the 4 if the other team is playing small and Diaw isn't in. But hesitating on open shots cant be a fault of Pop's for not playing him more consistently at 1 position. That's why I think he needs to spend all summer working on his shot. At the very least, he should be able to be there and spread the floor.
I like his vision and post play, but if he's on the court with Manu who has the ball and is usually the primary ball handler, he's got to be able to spread the floor and open things up. There are times he's cutting to the basket and all that is good of course. But he has to become more confident and versatile.
Simmons is similar, but you can see he at least makes a decision and is quick about it. They have different issues, but are both kinda in the same boat
If the 2014 draft was redone Anderson would be a top 15
pick. Maybe even starting on a team with less depth. He is a been another star that the Spurs have picked up in the late first round/second round.
I do not expect Manu to return next season, so that complicating factor will not be there. He will play much more on-ball. That said, yeah, I agree that he needs to work with Chip to improve his shot, range and confidence. Unfortunately the Kyle we have seen so far this season is the Kyle we have going into the playoffs. I believe his utility will be pretty limited.
I was relatively high on KA. I even almost made a The Spurs made the best draft pick possible thread about him. But the team plays flat with him in the game.
Go back and watch the Summer league. That's what he can do, just give him time to grow. He can't play his natural position until Manu retires.
He's the anti-manu. Manu sees things before they happen, Kyle sees them after they happen.
Well if that's your standard, go back and watch summer league and see what Jimmer can do.
jimmer is what the 4rth pick? and also, well older in his prime. If KA is not a 20m rotation player at jimmers age, then sure, i'll take the L here. But your comparing a guy who has been cut by more teams then you've slept with women to A third year guy who has skill but lacks instinct. Jimmer lacks skill and has the wrong instincts.
^^^ This is very true. But also, he's not a fully developed player.
That is probably the biggest challenge. When you see a prospect like Simmons and Boban its a matter of translating what they did in the lower leagues to this one. Whether they do it or not, that is the challenge, but they had the same kind of game whether you were looking at a dleague game or an NBA game. Kyle's game does not look the same, whether you look at a college game, a dleague or SL game and the NBA. Here he spots up more (an area of weakness for him) and doesn't have the ball as much, or at all.
You watch his dleague and NBA games and the things they have him doing are dramatically different. He had the ball much more in the lower leagues, here is off the ball a whole lot. Probably a lot of that is bc he's not a fully formed player. To be what Pop wants him to be (looks like a 4 eventually), he needs to add strength which takes time if you are not on some performance enhancing drug, and he needs to develop a post game... which again, its a work in progress. He didn't have these things when he got to us in the draft. If he did, we would not have gotten him at 29 for sure.
He's basically learning how to play for Pop, and at the same time, Pop is trying to help him figure out how he can help the team, what spots he can play best, etc. Meantime, Pop has used him to fill in wherever they need him. Him playing as a SG for example doesn't even mean he'll eventually be that for us, just that we need those minutes at a given point in time in a game and he will have to do. And although that is not an area of strength of his, that is what he did.
Bottom line he's lacking confidence. And if we go further, although he's a 2nd year player, he's more like a rookie in that what we are having him do this season, he didn't really do the last one.
So we may consider him a work in progress.
^^^^
It may be too early for final judgments; but there is definitely cause for concern.
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