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    uhh...the laws are already in place. The PC Police want to overturn them and allow it.
    With only two weeks left in the Kansas legislation session, state lawmakers have introduced a pair of bills that would prohibit transgender students from using restrooms that match their gender. The “Student Physical Privacy Act” would apply not only to public schools, but all public universities in the state as well, guaranteeing that anyone who saw someone transgender in the bathroom could sue their school for $2,500 for every time that it happened.


    The Fear police are introducing bills to legislate where transgendered people use the restroom. That's where the controversy started.

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    It certainly is baffling when gots like you condone it.
    I don't condone upskirt pics, dumb . It's your terrifying slippery slope, not mine.

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    uhh...the laws are already in place. The PC Police want to overturn them and allow it.
    Allow what?

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    Going to federal court it looks like

    WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. (Reuters) - Transgender people barred under a new North Carolina law from choosing bathrooms consistent with their gender iden y filed a federal lawsuit on Monday, arguing the measure is discriminatory and threatens their personal safety.

    North Carolina last week became the first state to enact a measure requiring people to use bathrooms or locker rooms in schools and other public facilities that match the gender on their birth certificate, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

    The state's Republican-dominated legislature passed the law during a one-day special session called to repeal a Charlotte city ordinance that would have allowed bathroom choice based on gender iden y versus sex at birth.

    State lawmakers also voted to prohibit local governments from enacting anti-discrimination protections based on sexual orientation and gender iden y. The actions drew swift criticism from lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender advocacy groups and companies including American Airlines, Apple and Google.

    "By singling out LGBT people for disfavored treatment and explicitly writing discrimination against transgender people into state law, (the state) violates the most basic guarantees of equal treatment and the U.S. Cons ution," said the lawsuit, which was filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and Lambda Legal.

    Republican lawmakers have defended the law as a common-sense response to radical overreach by the city council in Charlotte, the state's largest city. They spoke of the dangers that could result from men sharing bathrooms with women and young girls.

    But transgender plaintiffs said they are now the ones at risk.

    "It is so more than a restroom," said Joaquin Carcano, a 27-year-old university employee. "It is about dignity. It’s about respect."

    Republican Governor Pat McCrory, who is seeking re-election in November, signed the measure into law on the same day it was introduced and passed by both chambers of the legislature. The governor's office did not respond to a request for comment on Monday.

    Opponents of the law criticized legislators for allowing little public debate before passing the sweeping measure, which they said has hurt the state's national reputation.

    They noted the weeks of debate and review given to a Georgia measure that sought to strengthen legal protections for gay marriage opponents before Republican Governor Nathan Deal signaled on Monday he would veto it.

    "By contrast, what happened here in North Carolina was a farce," said Chris Brook, legal director for the ACLU of North Carolina.

    (Reporting by Colleen Jenkins; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama and Steve Orlofsky)
    http://news.yahoo.com/north-carolina...140743128.html

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    The "anti pc" crowd are a bunch of pussies.

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    BTW, "identifying as" doesn't even mean you have to dress transgender. It's just an unprovable claim of "state of mind".
    It's still a negligible risk, and certain things like filming women on the toilet or peering through a stall are still illegal regardless of how they get into the bathroom. It's an unenforceable law that won't do anything to prevent the these extremely few pervs from breaking the law, but it WILL cause law-abiding transgendered people to have to choose between extreme discomfort when using the restroom, or breaking the law and still using the restroom that matches their iden y. In most cases, they'll probably just break the law, and frankly, 99.999% of the time, they're going to get away with it anyway. So you have toothless laws that can't (and won't) be enforced, but at least we all feel better that our granddaughters can finally pee with peace of mind.

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    It's still a negligible risk, and certain things like filming women on the toilet or peering through a stall are still illegal regardless of how they get into the bathroom. It's an unenforceable law that won't do anything to prevent the these extremely few pervs from breaking the law, but it WILL cause law-abiding transgendered people to have to choose between extreme discomfort when using the restroom, or breaking the law and still using the restroom that matches their iden y. In most cases, they'll probably just break the law, and frankly, 99.999% of the time, they're going to get away with it anyway. So you have toothless laws that can't (and won't) be enforced, but at least we all feel better that our granddaughters can finally pee with peace of mind.
    So you don't think a woman having to share the bathroom with a waggling shemale is going to cause her (the woman) extreme discomfort? And as to the tranny? It should be feeling extreme discomfort. Because YOU'RE A ING MAN WEARING WOMAN'S CLOTHES.
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    Common arguments against gun legislation:

    - Most gun owners are law abiding, and these laws infringe on their rights and force them to choose between their rights and an unjust law
    - Only law abiding citizens will obey gun laws. Criminals are, by definition, not law abiding.
    - Media sensationalism is driving this debate

    The only difference between these arguments and similar arguments in favor of transgender people choosing restrooms is that the gun debate typically comes up after dozens of people are killed.

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    So you don't think a woman having to share the bathroom is going to cause extreme discomfort?
    Funny from what I've seen, it seems like 9/10 it's a man making this argument.

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    So you don't think a woman having to share the bathroom is going to cause extreme discomfort? And as to the tranny? It should be feeling extreme discomfort. Because YOU'RE A ING MAN WEARING WOMAN'S CLOTHES.
    Or you were born a woman and you look like a man.

    Through years of perfectly legal gender reassignment and hormonal treatments, you look like this.


    And now there's a law saying you have to use a women's restroom. I'm sure those women are going to feel great about sharing a restroom with you.

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    Funny from what I've seen, it seems like 9/10 it's a man making this argument.
    you're on Spurstalk...what do you expect?

    to my knowledge, the most public incident was the woman at Planet Fatness

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...en y-policy/

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    Or you were born a woman and you look like a man.

    Through years of perfectly legal gender reassignment and hormonal treatments, you look like this.


    And now there's a law saying you have to use a women's restroom. I'm sure those women are going to feel great about sharing a restroom with you.
    she's ugly

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    Blake, was she as hot as she looks in the picture?


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    Funny from what I've seen, it seems like 9/10 it's a man making this argument.
    Lol anecdotal evidence based on the population of a sports forum

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    you're on Spurstalk...what do you expect?

    to my knowledge, the most public incident was the woman at Planet Fatness

    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...en y-policy/
    Rofl "theconservativetreehouse.com"

    Not just on ST. Plenty of public male figures are terrified of dudes dressing as chicks to get into the girls locker room.

    Can't think of any women terrified of impending discomfort because of this, tbh. Do you know any?

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    Lol anecdotal evidence based on the population of a sports forum
    Lol no, it's also anecdotal based on preacher and politician quotes

    Keep trying tho, you might get me on something sooner or later

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    Rofl "theconservativetreehouse.com"

    Not just on ST. Plenty of public male figures are terrified of dudes dressing as chicks to get into the girls locker room.

    Can't think of any women terrified of impending discomfort because of this, tbh. Do you know any?
    I just picked the first link from my Google search. Here is the same story on CNN. You didn't hear about this?

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/07/living...gender-member/

    tbh, I don't ask women or anyone in real life what they think of men dressed as women using the women's room.

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    Blake, was she as hot as she looks in the picture?

    Honestly, I think more privacy in gym lockers/showers is needed overall.

    If not, then what exactly is the complaint

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    I just picked the first link from my Google search. Here is the same story on CNN. You didn't hear about this?

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/07/living...gender-member/

    tbh, I don't ask women or anyone in real life what they think of men dressed as women using the women's room.
    Right, I remember your concern on this one before in the club. There's the 1/10, I guess.

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    People spend entirely too much time focused on how people "feel." That needs to stop being the basis for laws. The Civil Rights Movement wasn't about black people fighting for the right to not "feel" disfranchised and segregated. Marriage equality wasn't about gay people "feeling" married. There were legitimate social and economic reasons why those people were fighting for their rights.

    What is the justification about having segregated bathrooms? Comfort? Decency? It seems like its from a bygone era where men didn't want to believe that women pissed and shat just like men did, back when women called it the "powder room". There's really not a place for it now. I shared bathrooms with females hall- or roommates in all but one year in college. It's not a big deal.

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    "North Carolina has been the target of a vicious, nationwide smear campaign," the governor said in a video, released on*YouTube. "Disregarding the facts, other politicians — from the White House to mayors and city council members and, yes, even our attorney general — have initiated and promoted conflict to advance their political agenda, even if it means defying the Cons ution and their oath of office."*

    "Obeying the laws of the land and living up to the duties of the office and defending the Cons ution is the foundation of our state government," the North Carolina governor continued.*

    The governor said he signed the bill because the expectation of privacy of North Carolina citizens was at risk and could have been violated."

    http://news.yahoo.com/north-carolina...232600545.html


    Oh..this backlash is all nothing more than a smear campaign in order to adance "their" political agendas. That explains it.
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    NC, just another typical, Repug/red/slave state passing the nastiest, minority-screwing, Christian Taliban laws.

    McCrory's defense of his laws are amazingly ridiculous, are ing LIES, pretty much par for someone who spent 28 years a major polluter corp Duke Energy.

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    NC’s McCrory dismisses criticism of new discrimination law

    McCrory responded to the criticism yesterday by blaming the media and progressive activists for creating “political theater” and a “calculated smear campaign.”

    In an interview with NBC News, McCrory, a Republican who is running for re-election, said he would not back down from the measure…. He cast himself as a voice of reason, standing against an assault on “the norms and etiquette” that have existed for generations. And he said the law doesn’t discriminate against anyone.

    “This political correctness has gone amok,” he said.


    There are some questions, however, about whether or not the governor fully understands the new law he just created after a rushed legislative push. The News & Observer reported yesterday, for example, that the new policy appears to revoke a fair housing ordinance in Greensboro and a policy governing municipal contracts in Raleigh.

    Asked for a response, McCrory, who signed H.B. 2 into law last week, said, “I’ve been traveling all day, so you’re telling me something I’m not aware of.”

    The governor’s spokesperson later argued that the law doesn’t affect local housing ordinances, but he said he’s “still not sure” about the impact on other types of ordinances.

    It’s not unreasonable to think McCrory and his GOP allies should have worked out these details beforechanging the state’s discrimination laws.

    The city and state of New York, for example, announced yesterday that all non-essential state travel to North Carolina has been scrapped because of the new measure that “creates the grounds for discrimination against LGBT people.”

    What’s more, as we discussed yesterday, film director Rob Reiner has said he won’t produce projects in the state until the measure is repealed, and he urged others in the entertainment industry to follow his lead.

    ESPN, which was eyeing North Carolina as a possible host of the summer X Games, may now look elsewhere, and the same is true for the NBA, which planned to hold the 2017 All-Star Game in Charlotte, but which may now seek a new venue.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow


    Repugs who spend their entire lives inside the BigCorp and/or Repug bubble end up ing ignorant, stupid.




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    I shared bathrooms with females hall- or roommates in all but one year in college. It's not a big deal.
    I bet you saw SO MUCH cooch in those bathrooms, what with everyone walking around naked and eyeing each other's genitals all the time.

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