life on other planets infinitely impossible or rather, probable?

[pgardn]

If you answer with anything besides "I don't know" you're blowing smoke. Why do you need to answer it? We are ignorant of these things, so if we form an opinion on something we know nothing about, we're basically building dogma around what should be science. Let's wait until we know something and then speculate just a bit further to build predictive models based on scientific method instead of front porch chatter.

We really don't know what makes other life forms alive that why this is a great topic. No need to wander off into why we are alive, that means nothing here. We are the known, they are the unknown. And being the unknown how can we possibly use our/earthlings/human limitations/laws and rules to explain anything about these unknown species of whatever life is in their relm?

Why do you refer to these other things as life then, use something else. I have a definition of what makes life.

So do these things in your mind reproduce? Just one of many questions that are possible to try to understand what you or others propose to invent.

[Blake]

We really don't know what makes other life forms alive thats why this is a great topic.

Discussing this with you is like discussing it with a freshman firing up some herb. ,

Difference is you're fat and old.

When we say we're looking for life, we're going on the definition we know.

[Avante]

Why do you refer to these other things as life then, use something else. I have a definition of what makes life.

So do these things in your mind reproduce? Just one of many questions that are possible to try to understand what you or others propose to invent.

You have a definition of what we know as life. Whatever definition they have might be totally different. They wouldn't need oxygen or blood or any of those things we need to sustain life as we undertand it. An intelligent vapor? Fog like beings?

I have no reason to believe they would reproduce as we understand it.

[Blake]

An intelligent vapor? Fog like beings?

Whoa it could be in your bong, dude.

[Avante]

Discussing this with you is like discussing it with a freshman firing up some herb. ,

Difference is you're fat and old.

When we say we're looking for life, we're going on the definition we know.

Let's rise above the juvenile and immature Blake, it's distracting.


I agree about how can we talk about alien life forms unless we go with our understanding of life. Which is part of the mystery and what makes this so interesting.

[pgardn]

You have a definition of what we know as life. Whatever definition they have might be totally different. They wouldn't need oxygen or blood or any of those things we need to sustain life as we undertand it. An intelligent vapor? Fog like beings?

I have no reason to believe they would reproduce as we understand it.

So it does not reproduce.

Can it sense it's environment?

[Avante]

Whoa it could be in your bong, dude.

Or it could be the first stage of evolution on some far off planet?

[Avante]

So it does not reproduce.

Can it sense it's environment?

Not saying it doesn't reproduce, I am saying it's nothing remotely similiar to what we think of as reproduction.

Absolutely aware of everything in it's world.

[pgardn]

Not saying it doesn't reproduce, I am saying it's nothing remotely similiar to what we think of as reproduction.

Absolutely aware of everything in it's world.

Does it make more of itself? not asking for a mechanism.

How does it sense it's environment? What does it use?
Can it sense energy (ex. Light waves, IR "heat", microwaves)?
Can it sense chemical structures? (Gases, liquids of different types)?

[Avante]

Does it make more of itself? not asking for a mechanism.

How does it sense it's environment? What does it use?
Can it sense energy (ex. Light waves, IR "heat", microwaves)?
Can it sense chemical structures? (Gases, liquids of different types)?

That would depend on what planet/dimension/relm the different "life?" forms are from. Obviously there would be differences.

I however have no problems seeing beings able to muliple when they see fit. Things that need the proper temp to survive. But this could be frigid to scorching for us. Or even unbearable.

Sight, hearing, feel, smell, something different than what we think of. And unique to whatever world we are on.

[Blake]

Let's rise above the juvenile and immature Blake, it's distracting.

It's just a matter of time before you get angry and act childish because of your frustration at thinking you're right while everyone else with at least an average IQ tells you you're not.

[pgardn]

That would depend on what planet/dimension/relm the different "life?" forms are from. Obviously there would be differences.

I however have no problems seeing beings able to muliple when they see fit. Things that need the proper temp to survive. But this could be frigid to scorching for us. Or even unbearable.

Sight, hearing, feel, smell, something different than what we think of.

So what exactly can it sense?

Energy?

You said it was aware of everything, got a mechanism of how its aware? And what it's aware of?

[Avante]

It's just a matter of time before you get angry and act childish because of your frustration at thinking you're right while everyone else with at least an average IQ tells you you're not.

There is no right or wrong here, how could there be? We have no answers just questions, this should be obvious.

[SpursforSix]

There is no right or wrong here, how could there be? We have no answers just questions, this should be obvious.

I've got answers.

[Avante]

So what exactly can it sense?

Energy?

What are you considering....it.....to be? And if you say alien life forms, then we are talking about alot of differences.

[Avante]

I've got answers.

The only question we can really answer right now is we don't have a clue what might really be out there far beyond our boundaries.

[I. Hustle]

Maybe this is our bigfoot explanation. We see something odd and different and think of it as an apelike creature. Whose to say that it isn't some sort of insulated suit. Maybe their planet is of a much hotter temperature and it's freezing here on earth. Their suit might be made to keep them warm. It's what could also be slowing them down. We never see them because they have learned to travel through portals.

Find the bigfoot, find your alien.

[pgardn]

What are you considering....it.....to be? And if you say alien life forms, then we are talking about alot of differences.

You said it was aware of everything, please elaborate.
Im the one with the difficulty of imagining world's without energy and or atoms, because this is the basis of everything I attempt to understand. These are my models to work with. These are the basics. I don't know of anything outside of this. You create. This is your baby. So help me out.

[pgardn]

Maybe this is our bigfoot explanation. We see something odd and different and think of it as an apelike creature. Whose to say that it isn't some sort of insulated suit. Maybe their planet is of a much hotter temperature and it's freezing here on earth. Their suit might be made to keep them warm. It's what could also be slowing them down. We never see them because they have learned to travel through portals.

Find the bigfoot, find your alien.

Whats a portal?

[Avante]

Maybe this is our bigfoot explanation. We see something odd and different and think of it as an apelike creature. Whose to say that it isn't some sort of insulated suit. Maybe their planet is of a much hotter temperature and it's freezing here on earth. Their suit might be made to keep them warm. It's what could also be slowing them down. We never see them because they have learned to travel through portals.

Find the bigfoot, find your alien.

Bigfoot being those who crash landed here eons ago, hmmmm?

[SpursforSix]

Whats a portal?

bend over, I'll ing show you a portal

[SpursforSix]

Maybe this is our bigfoot explanation. We see something odd and different and think of it as an apelike creature. Whose to say that it isn't some sort of insulated suit. Maybe their planet is of a much hotter temperature and it's freezing here on earth. Their suit might be made to keep them warm. It's what could also be slowing them down. We never see them because they have learned to travel through portals.

Find the bigfoot, find your alien.

I was thinking this and then realized it didn't make a lick of sense. Most likely, Bigfoot is a hologram or just simple image projection. Probably just by some people.

[pgardn]

bend over, I'll ing show you a portal

This would require you bending over Im thinkin .

[SpursforSix]

This would require you bending over Im thinkin .

I know. But the joke doesn't work that way.

Bend me over, I'll show you a ing portal.

hahaha....maybe it does work after all.

[I. Hustle]

Whats a portal?

A doorway. A way for them to travel. Maybe this whole time we are looking for flying saucers and, instead, they just use portals. Kind of like teleportation.