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    Arma III puts no stress whatsoever on my 970

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    Nah it's CPU bound.. so much physics on such a big map with that amount of players.. I used to play small 8 man servers just to get solid 60 FPS

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    Nah it's CPU bound.. so much physics on such a big map with that amount of players.. I used to play small 8 man servers just to get solid 60 FPS
    I was talking about single player man, runs horrible at default ultra settings with the draw distance way up.

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    I was talking about single player man, runs horrible at default ultra settings with the draw distance way up.
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    No MP with games looted from the seas tbh

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    RandomGuy man, if you seriously just play Minecraft and Kerbal Space Program with such a killer gaming system.

    It'd be like buying a Macbook Pro for Facebook or a Xeon E5-2699v3 for granny to check her email.
    LOL...

    Kind if true. KSP operates in more than one core, but as it will only use about 20% of the game outside of one core. If you have an eight core logical like my i7, it will max out at about 15% CPU for the game. It will fully utilize one core (12.5%), and spread another 2.5% among the other cores.

    I hope with that system build, you plan to play something graphic intensive, else you are wasting money. KSP will do some nice 3d camera angle movements around the crafts you build, but it doesn't come close to taxing my puny GeForce GT 720. I will likely add a GeForce GTX 960 w/4GB shortly, but that's so I can mul ask as well as my laptop does with dual monitor and bluray at 1080P. My laptop has the 950m, but the extra 2 GB for the few extra dollar I thing is the best value for my system, over the 950.

    My laptop also cost me $1,050 new. It's the MSI Leopard pro 486. 1 TB HD, i7-4720HQ, came with 8 GB, I upgraded to 16 GB. It is flawless playing bluray. Better than any of my other bluray playing devises.

    LOL...

    Amazon has a new one for $1,609.29. Right after I bought it last year, the price shot up to $1,199...



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    ok i made up my mind, going to go purchase the g602...now just need to find a fkn shop thats open today on a p ublic holiday good friday

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    RandomGuy man, if you seriously just play Minecraft and Kerbal Space Program with such a killer gaming system.

    It'd be like buying a Macbook Pro for Facebook or a Xeon E5-2699v3 for granny to check her email.
    Nah, the whole purpose of the game is to play the freakin' awesome games I have seen come out in the last few years that I have been itching to try. Those MC and KSP are the old standbys I settled for because that was what I could play. They will be the first ones I play though, because I already own them, and the kids will be begging me to let them try MC on my new toy. If I don't let them try one or two games, I will never hear the end of it.


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    No MP with games looted from the seas tbh
    That is very true.. some games just weren't meant to be salvaged from the sea tbh

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    That is very true.. some games just weren't meant to be salvaged from the sea tbh
    I don't like MP anyways except in sports or fighting games.

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    4. Dying Light -- You're basically in a zombie B-movie, with cheezy music and cool film grain effects in this really well laid out city named Harran. This game is almost as addicting as Minecraft.
    Aw man... this is the kind of stuff I am talking about. Thanks.

    Got the MB yesterday. The kids went bonkers over the case. Will get the remainder of the system in two weeks. Odd to me that case didn't come with power supply. Have to remember that *minor* detail when I get the rest of the parts.

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    Aw man... this is the kind of stuff I am talking about. Thanks.

    Got the MB yesterday. The kids went bonkers over the case. Will get the remainder of the system in two weeks. Odd to me that case didn't come with power supply. Have to remember that *minor* detail when I get the rest of the parts.
    Ah man, you never want the power supply that comes with a case nowadays when gpus are so power hungry. The only company I have ever known that used to put good power supplies in their cases was Antec, but now their cases are crap (power supplies are still good though). If you go with the psu I recommended you get a 10 year warranty, plus it's modular so you're not going to have a billion cables to deal with. Here is a review of it, EVGA G2 750W, from JohnnyGURU:

    http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...tory6&reid=380

    This psu is absolute top of the line for a single card system.

    Not all EVGA power supplies are good though. For instance, the EVGA G1 750W is a piece of crap. The EVGA GS units are pretty good, but not as good as the G2. They're all made by different companies and then EVGA slaps their name on it. For instance, the EVGA G2 are made by Super Flower, who makes extremely high quality units. The EVGA GS are made by Seasonic, which is another great company to buy from. EVGA G1 is made by FSP, and they're pretty average. If you decide to go with a different psu, post it here first, because the R9 390 and i7-5820k are both some components that draw a lot of power. The R9 390 is a 275W gpu, an the i7-5820k is a 130W cpu at stock speeds. I'm betting the cpu is more like a 180W processor when heavily overclocked, and the R9 390 probably 300-325W when OC. Not that they'll be drawing that load the whole time, I'm talking about what each would use at 100% load. But you don't want to buy a Corsair CX power supply for instance with such a heavy duty system. Those things are rated at how much power they can output at 30 Celsius when good psus are rated at 40C or 50C.

    Lots of computer power supplies will lie about the power the deliver. Low end psus will say they're 500W, and then you see most of that power they're rated for is along the +3.3V and +5V rail, which are pretty useless since your cpu, gpu, board are all powered by the +12V rail(s). It's not uncommon to see crap advertised at 500W that can only deliver a 200W peak load on the +12V rail, and by peak load I mean what it could output for a second before burning up. You want to buy a PSU made by either Super Flower or Seasonic, those guys always rate their power supplies in terms of continuous power that can be delivered.
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    Aw man... this is the kind of stuff I am talking about. Thanks.
    Cry Havoc and DJR210 can both vouch for how amazing a game Dying Light is. Also this game is supposed to eventually come out on the Occulus Rift, and this looks like it would be unreal in VR. The GPU I recommended, the R9 390, is in the recommended spec for the Occulus Rift (they recommend an R9 290 or a GTX 970, and the R9 390 is about 10-15% stronger than the R9 290), and the i7-5820k is way better than the minimum recommended cpu (i5-4590).

    Next Tuesday or Wednesday Nvidia is expected to announce their new gpus though at GTC 2016. I wouldn't expect it to be a full launch (it sounds like they might not be in stores until May), and if they do an actual launch it might only be for their professional cards, but it'll still be worth seeing what they have. Last year they kind of came out with the GTX 980 Ti out of nowhere to rain on AMD's parade when AMD was about to launch the Fury X. AMD was going to launch the Fury X at $850 to compete with the $1000 Nvidia an X and right before the rumored Fury X launch Nvidia released the GTX 980 Ti at $650 as a barely cut down an X. So AMD had to cut the Fury X's price to $650.

    But AMD could pull the same kind of thing to upstage Nvidia this year. AMD's starting to build up on sponsored games, so I wonder if that's an indication developers are expecting the new AMD cards to be better than the Nvidia ones this upcoming generation. AMD is the only one to actually show off a next generation card in action, which they did with Polaris 11 in January at the Consumer Electronics Show.

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    lol u seen the new specs of the pascal nvidia 1080 cards?

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    lol u seen the new specs of the pascal nvidia 1080 cards?
    Nah man, hopefully we'll know something next week. Then again, Jen-Hsun Huang may just talk about ing cars at GTC like he did at CES.

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    Nah man, hopefully we'll know something next week. Then again, Jen-Hsun Huang may just talk about ing cars at GTC like he did at CES.
    NVIDIA 16nm Pascal Powered GeForce GTX 1080 Launching in May – Uses Full GP104 GPU With 2x Perf Per Watt and 8 GB Memory

    The report mentions that NVIDIA’s GP104 will be utilized by a graphics card called the GeForce GTX 1080. Know we don’t know whether NVIDIA will be aiming for a 1000 series naming scheme or skipping it for something far more simpler but the name could change at any point since the launch is still a few months away. The GeForce GTX 1080 will be the fastest consumer offering for a while and while NVIDIA will also have the GTX 1070 in the same time frame, the latter will fall below the 1080 performance since it will be using a cut down configuration.

    There are some significant details in the mentioned report which state that NVIDIA’s GP104 based Pascal cards will feature up to 8 GB GDDR5 memory. This brings the memory capacity to the same amount as AMD’s current Radeon R9 390 series graphics cards which are hit among the public for their great price to performance value. The report says that GDDR5 is the memory standard to be used on the GP104 series cards and there remains a possibility where AIBs can start shipping higher performance GDDR5X chips based cards later on since Micron is expected to start mass production in Summer of 2016.

    Other details that are mentioned the GeForce GTX 1080 will be shipping on 27th May which is just a few days before Computex.

    http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-ge...080-gp104-gpu/

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    2x performance per watt would be amazing, assuming the GP104 chips are meant to be used in ~150W cards. I'm not sure I believe that though, that would be insane.

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    The monitor is HD as in Full HD, e.g., 1080p? Does your monitor support 120 Hz or 144 Hz refresh rate, or is it 60 Hz? Because for a 1080p 60 Hz system, $1400 is an extremely high budget. Here is what I would consider a monstrously strong 1080p 60 Hz system for that kind of money: I think it would be a waste of money, though the CPU is really strong. It's a hexacore with hyperthreading that you'll probably be able to overclock to at least 4.2 GHz on the cooler I recommend.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($378.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X61 106.1 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.99 @ B&H)
    Motherboard: Asus X99-A ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($239.99 @ B&H)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($104.95 @ Adorama)
    Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($329.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1428.87
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-17 16:52 EDT-0400

    Assuming you have some old hard drives to use for data storage and that you can get a free case that can support a 360mm radiator in top for the CPU. You get an extremely strong CPU out of this as well as a really high end cooler. This is the best watercooler on the market unless you want to spend $200-$300 on the new ekwb all-in-one coolers coming out this month.

    If you have a 120 Hz 1080p or a 60 Hz 1440p monitor, then definitely go higher end on the GPU, lower end on the CPU. Something like this would be much better for that use case, as it has much more graphical horsepower. I went a little over budget to fit in the cooler, which you'll want with a 4790k since it runs 4.2 GHz on all cores under load at stock speed. You can probably get it up to 4.4 GHz on all cores using a Hyper 212 EVO, but any higher and you're looking at liquid coolers most likely, and even the best coolers (like the one in the first build) probably won't get you any higher than 4.7 GHz.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($327.99 @ NCIX US)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.89 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: Asus Z97-E ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($92.98 @ Newegg) [CHECK]
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($669.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.50 @ Amazon)
    Total: $1429.32
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-17 17:31 EDT-0400
    [derp--re-read and answered my own question] NM.

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    So what about the base operating system and other configuration tweaks?

    I would prefer windows, as I will still need to do the occasional excel/word file.

    The MB came with a CD, which I thought rather odd. Haven't had a chance to look at it yet. Now that I am edging closer to the build, I am going to need to start researching a bit about standards and so forth. From what I remember of my old building days, and it looks like it hasn't changed much, MB's and so forth require a bit of tweaking of bios, and getting all the connectors squared away, which I am going to be very ignorant of.

    I imagine youtube has a host of stuff like this, both from manufacturers as well as fanatics. Any favs that would be a good place to start?

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    So what about the base operating system and other configuration tweaks?

    I would prefer windows, as I will still need to do the occasional excel/word file.

    The MB came with a CD, which I thought rather odd. Haven't had a chance to look at it yet. Now that I am edging closer to the build, I am going to need to start researching a bit about standards and so forth. From what I remember of my old building days, and it looks like it hasn't changed much, MB's and so forth require a bit of tweaking of bios, and getting all the connectors squared away, which I am going to be very ignorant of.

    I imagine youtube has a host of stuff like this, both from manufacturers as well as fanatics. Any favs that would be a good place to start?
    the CD that comes with the motherboard, are just drivers man...but you still need to update new drivers for ur hardware

    win10 should be good now, dunno about being unstable, only reason it could be unstable or bsod is due to incompatible driver updates, that will always be sorted out after every patch available anyway...

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    the CD that comes with the motherboard, are just drivers man...but you still need to update new drivers for ur hardware

    win10 should be good now, dunno about being unstable, only reason it could be unstable or bsod is due to incompatible driver updates, that will always be sorted out after every patch available anyway...
    Kinda what I thought. Seems wierd to me that a MB would require drivers, but hey, my computer buildings days are about 18 years behind me. WTF do I know... heh.

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    So what about the base operating system and other configuration tweaks?

    I would prefer windows, as I will still need to do the occasional excel/word file.

    The MB came with a CD, which I thought rather odd. Haven't had a chance to look at it yet. Now that I am edging closer to the build, I am going to need to start researching a bit about standards and so forth. From what I remember of my old building days, and it looks like it hasn't changed much, MB's and so forth require a bit of tweaking of bios, and getting all the connectors squared away, which I am going to be very ignorant of.

    I imagine youtube has a host of stuff like this, both from manufacturers as well as fanatics. Any favs that would be a good place to start?
    I'll make my answer in a few separate posts and tag your name in them.

    (1) Windows is an absolute must, there is no other good operating system for gaming. I'd definitely go with Windows 10. If you want a cheapest way to get it without going to the gray market (like Reddit Software Swap or G2A.com), you can buy an OEM copy of Windows 7 Professional for a refurbished PC from amazon for about $50. Then you can upgrade it to Windows 10 Professional for free as long as you do it before July 25th or so. Here is the deal I'm talking about:

    http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Profes.../dp/B00LG242A0

    You'll find Windows keys for $20-$30 on a Reddit, G2A, and lots of other gray market sites like that, but the key and the license are two different things. If you're not going to buy the license then you might as well just pirate, which is very easy since Microsoft publishes SHA1 checksums for all their isos so you can actually know whether the one you got off piratebay is legit or not (anything extra injected into the iso will change the SHA1 checksum).

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    (2) The drivers on your motherboard are useless, always download the newest ones from Asus' website. The only exception is the ethernet driver, which you might need to install from the dvd if Windows doesn't come with a suitable driver already installed. This will almost certainly be the case for a Windows 7 install, but if you buy a Windows 10 flash I'd imagine you'd have working network drivers already.

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    (3) Check Carey Holzman's youtube channel to see how to build these systems in a lot of detail.



    In this video he is using a stock cooler, which you won't since processors for X-series boards don't come with them, but the rest should be mostly similar. Don't use the power supply he uses here though. He is using an 84W i7-4790 and a 145W GTX 980, neither overclocked, so he's fine with a Corsair CX750M even though they're not very good power supplies. Your system will use quite a bit more power than that.

    Here is a video showing how to build in the exact case you got, and they also show installation of a watercooler. However, you won't have to install a backplate for the cooler, as X-series boards have them preinstalled by default (Z-series do not).



    I don't like pcpartpicker's videos as much since they edit things down to save time.

    Here is a video showing installation of the NZXT Kraken x61, which is the water cooler I'd recommend for that case and cpu.


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    Actually, that video above showed the Kraken x60, but they're similar.

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