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    I have noticed that only really applies to Hispanics and Blacks. Asians pretty much are the invisible minority that the PC police doesn't care about.
    Ask Chris Rock

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    PC is about protecting the feelings of everyone who is not in the following demographic:

    Straight, white males who aren't handicapped in any way

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    I have noticed that only really applies to Hispanics and Blacks. Asians pretty much are the invisible minority that the PC police doesn't care about.
    It's pretty situational I think. If defending Asians comes at the expense of any other minority group, they will get the shaft. It's only when they are put in contrast to white people that Asian people for sure get a defense.

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    It's pretty situational I think. If defending Asians comes at the expense of any other minority group, they will get the shaft. It's only when they are put in contrast to white people that Asian people for sure get a defense.
    Yes your definitely right about that.

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    I have noticed that only really applies to Hispanics and Blacks. Asians pretty much are the invisible minority that the PC police doesn't care about.
    It's because Asians are not vocal or particularly political.

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    It's awful. People have confused words with actions. Words didn't enslave or oppress black people. Words weren't burning gay people at the stake. Words weren't forcing Hispanics to leave behind their culture. Words didn't keep women in domestic roles without rights. When people pretend that words are important to this issue, they give folks an easy way out. People hunt slurs and ignore the real issues. It leaves people with no understanding of the nuances to prejudice, where it comes from, how it affects people's ability to interact with society, what steps we need to take to fix it. Instead, you just have people going around hashtagging and post-liking. They think they're making a difference and they're not. They're just spreading ignorance and intolerance under a different guise.

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    It's awful. People have confused words with actions. Words didn't enslave or oppress black people. Words weren't burning gay people at the stake. Words weren't forcing Hispanics to leave behind their culture. Words didn't keep women in domestic roles without rights. When people pretend that words are important to this issue, they give folks an easy way out. People hunt slurs and ignore the real issues. It leaves people with no understanding of the nuances to prejudice, where it comes from, how it affects people's ability to interact with society, what steps we need to take to fix it. Instead, you just have people going around hashtagging and post-liking. They think they're making a difference and they're not. They're just spreading ignorance and intolerance under a different guise.
    Tldr, but I've got a sidebar question.

    You keep saying how I think I am so smart, when I've never once said as such....
    my question is, on a scale of 1-10, (9 being a genius, 10 being your thought of what I think of myself)..
    how smart do you believe yourself to be here?

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    It's because Asians are not vocal or particularly political.
    I actually think it's because Asian people don't have as many problems as black and Hispanics. They even do better than white people in a lot of areas like wealth and education. Of course you could say Asians aren't as political because they have less problems so the ideas are connected.

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    It's awful. People have confused words with actions. Words didn't enslave or oppress black people. Words weren't burning gay people at the stake. Words weren't forcing Hispanics to leave behind their culture. Words didn't keep women in domestic roles without rights. When people pretend that words are important to this issue, they give folks an easy way out. People hunt slurs and ignore the real issues. It leaves people with no understanding of the nuances to prejudice, where it comes from, how it affects people's ability to interact with society, what steps we need to take to fix it. Instead, you just have people going around hashtagging and post-liking. They think they're making a difference and they're not. They're just spreading ignorance and intolerance under a different guise.
    Yep. PC people treat bigoted words and actions like they have the same power. Words only have power if you let them effect you. Obviously you can't just ignore someone trying to put their hands on you. Should people have to deal with the words of bigots? I don't think so, but there is a cost to everything. You can't curtail bigot's speech without hindering everybody else's in some way, shape, or form. I don't think the current way of vigilante justice is the right way nor do I know of a way to make laws to shield people from hate speech that wouldn't be incredibly biased or enforceable (let alone a law strong enough to deter bigotry in face to face conversation.) I think the best solution is people forming thicker skin.

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    It's 128 words. That should have taken less than 30 seconds to read. If you aren't going to show the basic respect to someone to read what they wrote (AND understand it), then why do you want people to do the same for you?

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    Yep. PC people treat bigoted words and actions like they have the same power. Words only have power if you let them effect you. Obviously you can't just ignore someone trying to put their hands on you. Should people have to deal with the words of bigots? I don't think so, but there is a cost to everything. You can't curtail bigot's speech without hindering everybody else's in some way, shape, or form. I don't think the current way of vigilante justice is the right way nor do I know of a way to make laws to shield people from hate speech that wouldn't be incredibly biased or enforceable (let alone a law strong enough to deter bigotry in face to face conversation.) I think the best solution is people forming thicker skin.
    This is the critical fact that people are missing. When you start limiting other people's rights to freedom of speech and freedom of expression, it affects us all. When you start letting the majority dictate which opinions are protected, you leave yourself open to your opinions being attacked.

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Socialist.
    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
    People think that this only applies to demographics, but they're wrong.

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    It's 128 words. That should have taken less than 30 seconds to read. If you aren't going to show the basic respect to someone to read what they wrote (AND understand it), then why do you want people to do the same for you?
    Neh, don't care

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    Neh, don't care
    Exactly. Completely psudeo-intellectual.

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    " When you start limiting other people's rights to freedom of speech and freedom of expression, it affects us all."

    aka, "weaponized" 1st Amendment.

    iow, I MUST be able to say, and I ought to say, the most damaging, hateful, denigrating, racist, bigoted I can think of because it's MY CONS UTIONAL RIGHT, which I MUST exercise, no matter what.

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    Exactly. Completely psudeo-intellectual.
    coming from the dude that loves to post walls of worthless opinions based on anecdotes. Like the one you just posted.

    Rich irony is rich

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    coming from the dude that loves to post walls of worthless opinions based on anecdotes. Like the one you just posted.

    Rich irony is rich
    I'm not surprised my posts seem like walls to you considering that you're struggling with 128-word paragraphs. Keep on psuedo-intellectualing, dude.

    I don't even have to read your posts to know that you're wrong

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    I'm not surprised my posts seem like walls to you considering that you're struggling with 128-word paragraphs. Keep on psuedo-intellectualing, dude.

    I don't even have to read your posts to know that you're wrong
    why won't Blake read my super intellectual post

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    why won't Blake read my super intelligent post
    If you are going to reply to it, it's not too much to ask. It's just a basic rule of discourse.

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    If you are going to reply to it, it's not too much to ask. It's just a basic rule of discourse.
    Rofl. You're asking me to follow rules of discourse after calling me a pseudo intellectual. It just gets richer.

    Go yourself, arrogant prick.

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    Rofl. You're asking me to follow rules of discourse after calling me a pseudo intellectual. It just gets richer.

    Go yourself, arrogant prick.
    Still giving up.

    I don't actually want to discussing things. I just want to think I'm right and at everyone who disagrees with me.

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    This is the critical fact that people are missing. When you start limiting other people's rights to freedom of speech and freedom of expression, it affects us all. When you start letting the majority dictate which opinions are protected, you leave yourself open to your opinions being attacked.
    I don't think proponents of political correctness miss this. In fact, they're quite aware of it. They're just willing to lodge the fascism of their group think against what they perceive is the bigger evil of "white, hetero-normative, phallogocentric, CIS etc... oppression."

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    I don't think proponents of political correctness miss this. In fact, they're quite aware of it. They're just willing to lodge the fascism of their group think against what they perceive is the bigger evil of "white, hetero-normative, phallogocentric, CIS etc... oppression."
    I personally am tired of hearing that First Amendment rights protect students when they are creating a hostile and unsafe learning environment for myself and for other students here.
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mizzou-st...g-environment/

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    Still giving up.

    I don't actually want to discussing things. I just want to think I'm right and at everyone who disagrees with me.
    I never participated in the first place to give up. I don't want to discuss your opinion. It's really that simple, dumbass. Smhlol.

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    I never participated in the first place to give up. I don't want to discuss your opinion. It's really that simple, dumbass. Smhlol.
    Can you even find your way home through all those tears?

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    Can you even find your way home through all those tears?
    Lol tears. Just gets richer.

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