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    Well, you know that PER numbers care more about offense than the two ends, it's not surprising that Kawhi has his first season in top 5 averaging +20 points...

    Also, having Pop as coach, makes Kawhi doesn't play too many minutes or take too many shots.

    David Robinson in his best season took 20.7 FGA per game and played 40.5 mpg.

    Kawhi Leonard in his best season is taking 15 FGA per game and playing 34 mpg

    Of course "not the an apples-to-apples comparison" because Kawhi will never have the chance to play DRob minutes or take that many shots.
    or be surrounded with the same quality of talent... (or lack thereof in Robinson's case).

    BTW Robinson was a defensive freak... a seven footer with the capability of amassing double-digit steals in any given game... he did it 4 times... Kawhi as a perimeter player has done that exactly 0 times.

    What is it with you myopic player fans...? I ABSOLUTELY LOVE Kawhi as a player. But why take a dig at The Admiral in order to prop Kawhi... They're two completely different players.

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    AND his per led the league for years, AND he carried the team when the rest of the supporting cast was crap, AND he scored as a volume shooter.
    Of course he did.

    But also playing more minutes, and getting a lot more opportunities to score, help his case.

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    Until Kawhi has been a second-team defensive player or better for 5+ years, I don't know how we can even talk about this.

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    or be surrounded with the same quality of talent... (or lack thereof in Robinson's case).
    When a great player finds himself surrounded by poor talent, it's likely he'll put amazing numbers, getting individual success.

    That's not Kawhi's case. He will never take 21 FGA per game on this team.

    But why take a dig at The Admiral in order to prop Kawhi... They're two completely different players.
    No one is taking a dig at him.
    I've said before here he's my dad's favorite player and the reason he's a Spurs fan so I LOVE DRob.
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    I like Kawhi, but no...just no.

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    The usual no because he's my hero before

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    Kawhi top 3 all time or goat
    Kawhi as in top 3 spur all time... or top 3 NBA player of all time and effectively challenging MJ for his le as GOAT

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    We have yet to scratch the surface with this kid.......... His game in my opinion, will mature into him becoming the best or 2nd best player in the WORLD! He has it and it can't be bought or taught; you roll out of bed with it!

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    David robinson is overrated
    Whottt would rip off your head and down your throat hole if he was still alive.

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    Kawhi Leonard will never ever score 73 points in a game. I guarandamntee it.

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    This is just another attention whoring thread by Apa. Posting one of his "edgy" predictions. Boring.

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    If Leonard wins one or two championships without Duncan + the finals MVP that goes with it, maybe. Leonard will already have at least 1 finals MVP and 2 DPOY already by the end of this year. He'll continue to get his all stars, and all NBA selections and pad his resume. The important thing is winning a championship or two post Duncan. Without that, he can't be above Robinson.

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    Kawhi passed up Admiral w/ the 2014 Finals performance. Robinson has NEVER had a performance H2H like that against an elite player, the '99 run is the closest thing to Kawhi's 2014 run.

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    If not for David Robinson and Tim Duncan, it would be the St. Louis Spurs or some bull like that. There are a lot of bandwagon fans who have no clue of the Spurs history. Love Kawhi, thankful to have him but DRob is Spurs royalty...

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    The Spurs would be very fortunate if that happens.

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    If not for David Robinson and Tim Duncan, it would be the St. Louis Spurs or some bull like that. There are a lot of bandwagon fans who have no clue of the Spurs history. Love Kawhi, thankful to have him but DRob is Spurs royalty...
    IDGAF if the Spurs played on Mars, where a team plays is TOTALLY irrelevant to me. TEXAS!

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    Kawhi might become one of the best to ever play the game, but not yet. Not yet.


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    Come back in another 10 years and we can talk.
    ^^^^^^ This.
    Kawhi Leonard will never ever score 73 points in a game. I guarandamntee it.
    Don't forget the Quad double or the MVP season for that matter D Rob had, better yet his 1994 season... I believe he won a DPOY too and was also Rookie of the year. I am still waiting for Kawhis break out game where he drops 40 plus points tbh, it will come but he has only gone over 30 a few times.
    Kawhi passed up Admiral w/ the 2014 Finals performance. Robinson has NEVER had a performance H2H like that against an elite player, the '99 run is the closest thing to Kawhi's 2014 run.
    2014 was great and he stepped up but his overall body of work is not there yet, like someone said come re visit this way down the road. He is not there yet, he will get there though. If he gets hurt and bows out early or does not continue to grow by some sort of bad events (Mental or whatever) then he is not passed D Rob as a player at this present point in time. I will give it atleast 5 or so years then say on this one. I hope he does though, would be great.
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    IDGAF if the Spurs played on Mars, where a team plays is TOTALLY irrelevant to me. TEXAS!
    Proof you are a player fan.

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    Kawhi Leonard will never ever score 73 points in a game. I guarandamntee it.
    Mj didn't as well.

    Meow

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    Proof you are a player fan.
    I became a Spurs because of Team Duncan whom I've been a fan of since his Wake Forest day (rather say some bum like Matt Bonner) & will stay on the ship as long as Kawhi is wearing a Spurs jersey. I'm not a player stan like Kobe fans who will defend him even if he raped their mother. (Calling out teammates when they are wetting the bed isn't the definition of a "player fan", it called speaking the truth)

    I've ZERO obligations to support ANY product Peter Holt churns out when he isn't donating to the Republican party. I also give ZERO s about a military city w/ a dirty creek & fat messican women.
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    Making fun of the city where the Spurs play on a Spurs forum.

    got.

    Seriously a bonafide got.

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    If Kawhi does finish above DROB than Spurs fans should consider themselves bloody lucky. Robinson was one of the best ballers I've ever seen and a freak of nature.

    How lucky are the Spurs... 92 onwards we had a freakshow in David Robinson, Tim Duncan came on board in 97-98 and everyone knows how that turned out, he was followed by Manu and TP. They then stole Kawhi for Hill in the draft, then succeeded in nabbing of the top bigs in the NBA last offseason in LMA. With Kawhi and LMA San Antonio will most likely go from years 1992-apx 2028 (apx end of Kawhi's career) only missing the playoffs once (the perfect year to tank as it landed TD in the draft) As most Spurs fans I dreaded post TD life, yet we are now in good hands.

    Brilliant team, and to maintain all this success with one of the poorest ownership groups is phenomenal. All the best to Kawhi, i hope he has a long, healthy, incredible career. Go Spurs Go!

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    or be surrounded with the same quality of talent... (or lack thereof in Robinson's case).

    BTW Robinson was a defensive freak... a seven footer with the capability of amassing double-digit steals in any given game... he did it 4 times... Kawhi as a perimeter player has done that exactly 0 times.

    What is it with you myopic player fans...? I ABSOLUTELY LOVE Kawhi as a player. But why take a dig at The Admiral in order to prop Kawhi... They're two completely different players.
    I couldn't find any games where he got double-digit steals, but I did see that he did it in blocks 10 times.
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    I became a Spurs because of Team Duncan whom I've been a fan of since his Wake Forest day (rather say some bum like Matt Bonner) & will stay on the ship as long as Kawhi is wearing a Spurs jersey. I'm not a player stan like Kobe fans who will defend him even if he raped their mother. (Calling out teammates when they are wetting the bed isn't the definition of a "player fan", it called speaking the truth)

    I've ZERO obligations to support ANY product Peter Holt churns out when he isn't donating to the Republican party. I also give ZERO s about a military city w/ a dirty creek & fat messican women.
    Just affirmed you are not a Spurs fan. So why do you spend countless hours on our team's forum?

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