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    Even if any of that were true that's not really what I was talking about. I am talking about yes she/he is gay and will have their gay other in the White House with them. That's a lot different.

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    Even if any of that were true that's not really what I was talking about. I am talking about yes she/he is gay and will have their gay other in the White House with them. That's a lot different.
    that's not what you asked. But if that's the criteria, then no...an openly gay president with his flamboyant lover will not get to the White House.

    But it sounds like a funny premise for a show.

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    that's not what you asked. But if that's the criteria, then no...an openly gay president with his flamboyant lover will not get to the White House.

    But it sounds like a funny premise for a show.
    I was using the word "known" gay, forgot it there. I was talking about a "known" gay president. Something Hillary isn't.

    So why wouldn't us Americans vote a "known" gay president into office?

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    I was using the word "known" gay, forgot it there. I was talking about a "known" gay president. Something Hillary isn't.

    So why wouldn't us Americans vote a "known" gay president into office?
    Probably because of his foreign policy.

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    We see things in abstract, a mic stuck in the face of an NFLer with the question "would you be cool with a gay treammate?" the guy has to/MUST say..."sure, no problem". If he doesn't then he's a phobic and ignorant to the world today and...all that. When in reality he wants nothing to do wth gay men. This is wrong.

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    that's not what you asked. But if that's the criteria, then no...an openly gay president with his flamboyant lover will not get to the White House.

    But it sounds like a funny premise for a show.
    Lol. Need a name for it.

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    We see things in abstract, a mic stuck in the face of an NFLer with the question "would you be cool with a gay treammate?" the guy has to/MUST say..."sure, no problem". If he doesn't then he's a phobic and ignorant to the world today and...all that. When in reality he wants nothing to do wth gay men. This is wrong.
    Then the guy doesn't understand how society works today.

    You know, like dressing nice fir an interview etc, amirite

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    yes im sure people choose to be gay in countries where they get executed for being gay

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    Lol. Need a name for it.
    Backdoor Diplomacy
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    Oh No They Didn't

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    yes im sure people choose to be gay in countries where they get executed for being gay
    How many people choose to smoke knowing what it can do to them? How about all those theives and drug dealers and criminals who know what happens if they get caught?

    Show me evidence proving that sexuals are born that way.

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    How many people choose to smoke knowing what it can do to them? How about all those theives and drug dealers and criminals who know what happens if they get caught?

    Show me evidence proving that sexuals are born that way.
    people smoke because they are addicted and it provides relief. people steal and deal drugs because they need money. there is no upside to being gay in saudi arabia or iran.

    we also see sexuality in animals other than humans

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    people smoke because they are addicted and it provides relief. people steal and deal drugs because they need money. there is no upside to being gay in saudi arabia or iran.

    we also see sexuality in animals other than humans
    Who started out smoking because they were addicted?

    I would never steal or sell drugs under any cir stances, would you?

    So you believe people were born gay? So where is that scientific evidence proving that?

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    Who started out smoking because they were addicted?

    I would never steal or sell drugs under any cir stances, would you?

    So you believe people were born gay? So where is that scientific evidence proving that?
    i would never rape underaged girls, would you?

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    i would never rape underaged girls, would you?
    This thread isn't about that so stick to the topic. If you must go there start a thread about it.

    Back on topic...


    No one is born gay

    All biological organisms have basic motives, namely, sex and sustainability. Without channeling Darwin, it will suffice to say that in the case of sexuals, it is impossible to produce another member of the species by sexual 'sex' and there is substantial evidence suggesting that any sort of gene that would diminish the survival of a species would be eliminated early on in within the species evolution. Further, let us for a moment pretend that there was a gay gene and therefore individuals are born gay, consider whether they should be able to procreate were they ever to find themselves, say, in a sexual scenario with the opposite sex. One would think that far from just not being attracted to the opposite sex they also would not be able to produce a human baby if they met sexually with the opposite sex, suggesting some sort of sterility or more a branching off of the species which would be able to produce only gay offspring. However, we know that if we were to take a random gay man and we can even set him up with a gay woman and they will produce a child. There are no tests that could be done on the child to determine whether it is predestined to be more sexually attracted to either sex, but considering its parents are both gay, it will likely be more open to taking partners of the same sex because that is a precedent set up by its parents.

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    One of a ton all saying the same things, nobody is born gay.

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    This thread isn't about that so stick to the topic. If you must go there start a thread about it.

    Back on topic...


    No one is born gay

    All biological organisms have basic motives, namely, sex and sustainability. Without channeling Darwin, it will suffice to say that in the case of sexuals, it is impossible to produce another member of the species by sexual 'sex' and there is substantial evidence suggesting that any sort of gene that would diminish the survival of a species would be eliminated early on in within the species evolution. Further, let us for a moment pretend that there was a gay gene and therefore individuals are born gay, consider whether they should be able to procreate were they ever to find themselves, say, in a sexual scenario with the opposite sex. One would think that far from just not being attracted to the opposite sex they also would not be able to produce a human baby if they met sexually with the opposite sex, suggesting some sort of sterility or more a branching off of the species which would be able to produce only gay offspring. However, we know that if we were to take a random gay man and we can even set him up with a gay woman and they will produce a child. There are no tests that could be done on the child to determine whether it is predestined to be more sexually attracted to either sex, but considering its parents are both gay, it will likely be more open to taking partners of the same sex because that is a precedent set up by its parents.

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    One of a ton all saying the same things, nobody is born gay.
    I believe it is a learned behavior as well, whether through psychological trauma or some kind of taboo lust. I also find these people to be incredibly dense and materialistic, and at times hostile or even homicidal. I believe it is another demon that man needs to conquer before he can advance to the next stage of higher consciousness. It is a form of lust, and it is a sin. An abomination to the Lord.

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    I believe it is a learned behavior as well, whether through psychological trauma or some kind of taboo lust. I also find these people to be incredibly dense and materialistic, and at times hostile or even homicidal. I believe it is another demon that man needs to conquer before he can advance to the next stage of higher consciousness. It is a form of lust, and it is a sin. An abomination to the Lord.
    I agree with all that, and well said.

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    One of a ton all saying the same things, nobody is born gay.
    Appealing to the masses. Failure.

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    Nobody would want their child to be gay, that pretty much says it all. Yes you'd love them just the same but you would prefer they be straight.

    So while we are expected to..."hey, cool with me"...that is never really how it is.

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    Nobody would want their child to be gay
    You're so stupid.

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    Avante when did you choose to become straight?

    and why would somebody choose to be gay then try to stay in the closet for years. in high school there were dudes who were obviously gay but wouldn't come out, but then eventually did. so they chose to be something that they'd then try to hard to hide and seem like everybody else?

    do you think you could suddenly "choose" to become attracted to throbbing s? i doubt it

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    No one is born gay
    I definitely think that some people are born with a genetic makeup that predisposes them towards liking the same sex.

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    Avante when did you choose to become straight?

    and why would somebody choose to be gay then try to stay in the closet for years. in high school there were dudes who were obviously gay but wouldn't come out, but then eventually did. so they chose to be something that they'd then try to hard to hide and seem like everybody else?

    do you think you could suddenly "choose" to become attracted to throbbing s? i doubt it
    I never thought about it, who does, oh yeah... sexuals.

    Show me the scientific evidence that there is a gay gene.

    And people do things all the time that are hurtful to themselves. Who was born a drug addict, alcoholic, crook/criminal? We all make bad decisions, smoking?

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    is there a pedo gene?

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    is there a pedo gene?
    Good question start a thread about it, this thread is about sexuality.

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    I definitely think that some people are born with a genetic makeup that predisposes them towards liking the same sex.
    How many gays come from a family of gays?

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