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  1. #151
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    So you went from plenty of observational proof to frustration when asked to prove that statement?
    No. I just don't feel like typing out the amount of sentences that would go towards my observational proof comment.

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    Who can show me anything proving that sexuality is a botn trait?
    G. Oogle can show you. He knows a lot.

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    already explained drugs, alcohol, smoking, etc. you're just ignoring now. nobody CHOOSES to be an addict

    ????? Wwwhhhaaaaaaaattttttttt????????????

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    Avante, how would you explain sexual behavior in other primates and mammals? Bonobos, dolphins?
    sexual or will just do anything they can? Are these animals ONLY attracted to the same sex?

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    No. I just don't feel like typing out the amount of sentences that would go towards my observational proof comment.
    So you have no observational proof?

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    already explained drugs, alcohol, smoking, etc. you're just ignoring now. nobody CHOOSES to be an addict
    Kid hits an old wino up (he can keep the change) to buy him some smokes at 14, he does all he can to hide is smoking from his parents. He knows his dad will tan his hide if he finds out.

    Guys driving around on a Friday night looking to score some coke, you don't think they know the repurcussions of their actions?

    Girl walks around with a black eye and a busted lip, her boyfriend beat her up ......AGAIN!!!!!!!

    Come on, just how naive are you?

    We do what we want, the with the law, and the repurcussions for our actions, you really don't know this? You do drive, right?

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    So you have no observational proof?
    I do. At least as far as I'm concerned.

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    I do. At least as far as I'm concerned.
    Then why tell me?

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    Then why tell me?
    Because you're either smart enough to see it for yourself or you're too dumb to get it anyway.

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    Because you're either smart enough to see it for yourself or you're too dumb to get it anyway.
    What am I suppose to be getting?


    sexuality and choice are closely related. When answering the question of is sexuality a choice one has to consider that sexual acts between consenting adults are, by definition, done by choice. In addition, according to the Bible and Christian ex- sexuals, sexuality is a sinful choice (I Corinthians 6:9-11). Also, in 2012 ABC News reported concerning actress Cynthia Nixon: "Cynthia Nixon stands by her statement that she is gay by choice, despite the backlash she’s received from members of the gay community."[1]
    Given that there are people who state they are ex- sexuals and given that the sexual population has significantly higher rates of many diseases and the sexual population also has significantly lower rates of various measures of mental health, it can be strongly argued that engaging in sexual acts is a bad choice for individuals. Those who make this choice suffer significantly higher rates of domestic violence in sexual couples. In addition, according to experts sexual murders are relatively or quite common and often sexual murders are very brutal. Also, the sexual population has a greater propensity to engage in illegal drug use.

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    What am I suppose to be getting?
    I don't know. what?

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    I don't know. what?

    sexuality and choice are closely related. When answering the question of is sexuality a choice one has to consider that sexual acts between consenting adults are, by definition, done by choice. In addition, according to the Bible and Christian ex- sexuals, sexuality is a sinful choice (I Corinthians 6:9-11). Also, in 2012 ABC News reported concerning actress Cynthia Nixon: "Cynthia Nixon stands by her statement that she is gay by choice, despite the backlash she’s received from members of the gay community."[1]
    Given that there are people who state they are ex- sexuals and given that the sexual population has significantly higher rates of many diseases and the sexual population also has significantly lower rates of various measures of mental health, it can be strongly argued that engaging in sexual acts is a bad choice for individuals. Those who make this choice suffer significantly higher rates of domestic violence in sexual couples. In addition, according to experts sexual murders are relatively or quite common and often sexual murders are very brutal. Also, the sexual population has a greater propensity to engage in illegal drug use.

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    sexuality and choice are closely related. When answering the question of is sexuality a choice one has to consider that sexual acts between consenting adults are, by definition, done by choice. In addition, according to the Bible and Christian ex- sexuals, sexuality is a sinful choice (I Corinthians 6:9-11). Also, in 2012 ABC News reported concerning actress Cynthia Nixon: "Cynthia Nixon stands by her statement that she is gay by choice, despite the backlash she’s received from members of the gay community."[1]
    Given that there are people who state they are ex- sexuals and given that the sexual population has significantly higher rates of many diseases and the sexual population also has significantly lower rates of various measures of mental health, it can be strongly argued that engaging in sexual acts is a bad choice for individuals. Those who make this choice suffer significantly higher rates of domestic violence in sexual couples. In addition, according to experts sexual murders are relatively or quite common and often sexual murders are very brutal. Also, the sexual population has a greater propensity to engage in illegal drug use.
    so you're equating choosing to be gay with choosing to have gay sex?

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    Kid hits an old wino up (he can keep the change) to buy him some smokes at 14, he does all he can to hide is smoking from his parents. He knows his dad will tan his hide if he finds out.

    Guys driving around on a Friday night looking to score some coke, you don't think they know the repurcussions of their actions?

    Girl walks around with a black eye and a busted lip, her boyfriend beat her up ......AGAIN!!!!!!!

    Come on, just how naive are you?

    We do what we want, the with the law, and the repurcussions for our actions, you really don't know this? You do drive, right?
    Cool stories, grampa

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    What am I suppose to be getting?


    sexuality and choice are closely related. When answering the question of is sexuality a choice one has to consider that sexual acts between consenting adults are, by definition, done by choice. In addition, according to the Bible and Christian ex- sexuals, sexuality is a sinful choice (I Corinthians 6:9-11). Also, in 2012 ABC News reported concerning actress Cynthia Nixon: "Cynthia Nixon stands by her statement that she is gay by choice, despite the backlash she’s received from members of the gay community."[1]
    Given that there are people who state they are ex- sexuals and given that the sexual population has significantly higher rates of many diseases and the sexual population also has significantly lower rates of various measures of mental health, it can be strongly argued that engaging in sexual acts is a bad choice for individuals. Those who make this choice suffer significantly higher rates of domestic violence in sexual couples. In addition, according to experts sexual murders are relatively or quite common and often sexual murders are very brutal. Also, the sexual population has a greater propensity to engage in illegal drug use.
    Oh the bible says it's a choice. In your face, science.

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    so you're equating choosing to be gay with choosing to have gay sex?
    I'm showing you just another person who disagrees with you.

    No end in sight.


    If a bisexual has a good relationship with one gender and a bad relationship with the other, can’t this “bisexual person” easily go from 50-50 to 40-60? Since we’ve already seen that sexual ideology says it’s not even possible to determine who is/is not sexual, it would be absurd to assert that a particular bisexual was born at 63.2 percent gay and must be stuck at that exact level for his entire life. By providing specific legal protection for bisexuals, discrimination laws acknowledge that we are all bisexual because we all have the full capability of going either way.
    Also, if people are “born gay,” please explain whether pedophiles were born that way and if not, why is there such an insistence that their behavior must have been learned or chosen, but that of heterosexuals and sexuals could not have been?
    The idea that people can be inherently sexual only makes sense if you don’t think about it. sexuality is about what a person does and not about what a person is.
    ‘Born gay’ doesn’t make sense
    As noted above, if we continue to fight misplaced compassion toward sexuals, we cannot win. If instead we disseminate and utilize evidence that “born gay” doesn’t make any sense, we cannot lose. If the logic in this commentary piece is widely dispersed and applied, it could cripple the sexual agenda, ideology and social/political influence.
    Last edited by Avante; 03-31-2016 at 02:03 PM.

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    I'm showing you just another person who disagrees with you.

    No end in sight.


    If a bisexual has a good relationship with one gender and a bad relationship with the other, can’t this “bisexual person” easily go from 50-50 to 40-60? Since we’ve already seen that sexual ideology says it’s not even possible to determine who is/is not sexual, it would be absurd to assert that a particular bisexual was born at 63.2 percent gay and must be stuck at that exact level for his entire life. By providing specific legal protection for bisexuals, discrimination laws acknowledge that we are all bisexual because we all have the full capability of going either way.
    Also, if people are “born gay,” please explain whether pedophiles were born that way and if not, why is there such an insistence that their behavior must have been learned or chosen, but that of heterosexuals and sexuals could not have been?
    The idea that people can be inherently sexual only makes sense if you don’t think about it. sexuality is about what a person does and not about what a person is.
    ‘Born gay’ doesn’t make sense
    As noted above, if we continue to fight misplaced compassion toward sexuals, we cannot win. If instead we disseminate and utilize evidence that “born gay” doesn’t make any sense, we cannot lose. If the logic in this commentary piece is widely dispersed and applied, it could cripple the sexual agenda, ideology and social/political influence.
    So you have Cynthia Nixon and an un-sourced couple of paragraphs. But it's cool you rely on Hollywood Stars to give you your opinions.

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    So you have Cynthia Nixon and an un-sourced couple of paragraphs. But it's cool you rely on Hollywood Stars to give you your opinions.
    My opinions about sexuality were forged long long ago when I watched my cousin Billy become a gay male at around 14. Billy had had girlfriends.

    And you do realize I could post a ton of articles all talking about how sexuality is a choice, right? I know you won't watch any videos but there is also a ton there.

    Nobody is born gay, you make that choice.

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    And you do realize I could post a ton of articles all talking about how sexuality is a choice, right? I know you won't watch any videos but there is also a ton there.

    All from bible beater sources

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    My opinions about sexuality were forged long long ago when I watched my cousin Billy become a gay male at around 14. Billy had had girlfriends.

    And you do realize I could post a ton of articles all talking about how sexuality is a choice, right? I know you won't watch any videos but there is also a ton there.

    Nobody is born gay, you make that choice.
    so your opinions about sexuality are based on your teenaged assessment of one incident involving your 14 year old cousin? sounds very scientific.

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    I don't know if it's so much as a choice as it is an experience that shaped you when you were young. I might not agree with being "born that way" but I also don't agree that you made a decision to be gay. I think it's somewhere in the middle.

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    so your opinions about sexuality are based on your teenaged assessment of one incident involving your 14 year old cousin? sounds very scientific.
    By cousin Billy, he means the 14 year old Vietnamese boy he enslaved.

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    so your opinions about sexuality are based on your teenaged assessment of one incident involving your 14 year old cousin? sounds very scientific.
    That was when I first became aware of sexuality. And since then nothing has changed my mind, it is a choice.

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    My opinions about sexuality were forged long long ago when I watched my cousin Billy become a gay male at around 14. Billy had had girlfriends.

    And you do realize I could post a ton of articles all talking about how sexuality is a choice, right? I know you won't watch any videos but there is also a ton there.

    Nobody is born gay, you make that choice.
    but since it's that easy...

    I had a good friend in middle school who had a girlfriend here and there. When he was 15, he told us he was gay. Over the next few years and countless discussions with him, he said he always knew he was gay but made himself try girls. Said it made him miserable. He only found out how to be happy once he went with his true feelings. I guess you could say he made the choice to be himself (gay) but that's not really what we're discussing here.

    But unlike you, I haven't based my entire opinion solely on his testimony. In fact, I told him that I believed that you aren't just born gay. But over time, I've seen enough to change my mind.

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    By cousin Billy, he means the 14 year old Vietnamese boy he enslaved.
    When I got back on the ship with my 14 year old captive I did have a problem with just where I could keep him enslaved. The chief didn't want him to be a distraction. My fellow shipmates nicknamed him "Pigeon" because he was badly pigeon toed. Bummer is my 1st officer didn't go for it so we had to let "Pigeon" go in Kobe Japan.

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