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    yes. and if a child is up for adoption and a gay couple says "we want to adopt him" do you really want to say "well lets wait for a while and see if we can find a straight couple first"... how long are you going to keep the poor kids waiting?
    Let me slow it down.

    If a man and his wife..AND... a gay couple..BOTH... want to adopt the child, they go to the man and his wife. If there is no man and wife looking to adopt the child....guess what"?

    Raider fan huh?

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    double

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    Let me slow it down.

    If a man and his wife..AND... a gay couple..BOTH... want to adopt the child, they go to the man and his wife. If there is no man and wife looking to adopt the child....guess what"?
    let me slow it down for you.

    that's not what happened in this case.

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    What do the stats say about that?
    you say you're from a stable home, and look what became of you.

    you're a perfect "stat"

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    So you actually thought I was talking about this particular situation? Did you read what I said above?

    Sometimes I wonder about you.

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    So you actually thought I was talking about this particular situation? Did you read what I said above?

    Sometimes I wonder about you.
    how many examples are there of a gay couple and hetero couple fighting to adopt the same orphan kid?

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    you say you're from a stable home, and look what became of you.

    you're a perfect "stat"
    Well let's see, here I sit making $$$$$. I own...

    Pontiac Gran Prix
    Toyota truck
    GMC truck

    A 10 room home, over 10,000 books, over 7,000 CD's, 200 DVD's.

    Did I mention here I sit making $$$$$.

    6-2 275 pounds of twisted railroad steel and these amazing dimples.

    Then there's you, hahahahaha~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! Getting a nut bugging the grown ups on the internet, hahaha~~~~~~~~

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    Well let's see, here I sit making $$$$$. I own...

    Pontiac Gran Prix
    Toyota truck
    GMC truck

    A 10 room home, over 10,000 books, over 7,000 CD's, 200 DVD's.

    Did I mention here I sit making $$$$$.

    6-2 275 pounds of twisted railroad steel and these amazing dimples.

    Then there's you, hahahahaha~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! Getting a nut bugging the grown ups on the internet, hahaha~~~~~~~~
    You can't count each of the 6 holding cells as a "room".

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    You can't count each of the 6 holding cells as a "room".
    Well lets see....

    front room
    daycare room
    kitchen
    dining room
    2 bathrooms
    3 bedrooms
    Fortress of Solitude

    Yep, 10.

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    how many examples are there of a gay couple and hetero couple fighting to adopt the same orphan kid?
    How dense are you?

    I'm talking about if there is an option available, ok? If not, ok.

    Wow~~~

    Do you agree(((( if you can))) you'd want a child in a traditional family setting?

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    How dense are you?

    I'm talking about if there is an option available, ok? If not, ok.

    Wow~~~

    Do you agree(((( if you can))) you'd want a child in a traditional family setting?
    show me an example of where that option exists, where you have a straight and gay couple fighting over adopting the same kid

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    show me an example of where that option exists, where you have a straight and gay couple fighting over adopting the same kid
    Who said anything about fighting over a child?

    I'm talking about if you can place a child in a traditional family setting over a sexual one, that's what you do, do you disagree. And answer the question.

    You are dying, you can leave your kids with a successful man and his wife or a successful gay couple, it is your choice. So who do you leave your kids with?

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    Who said anything about fighting over a child?

    I'm talking about if you can place a child iun a traditional family setting over a sexual one, that's what ypu do, do you disagree. And answer the question.
    that option implies that you have a straight couple and gay couple both trying to adopt the same kid.

    ok, so you're getting your panties in a bunch over a situation that for all you know has never come up and never will

    got it

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    that option implies that you have a straight couple and gay couple both trying to adopt the same kid.

    ok, so you're getting your panties in a bunch over a situation that for all you know has never come up and never will

    got it
    Do you really believe that situation has never ever happened? You can't be serious.

    Who would you want raising your children, a man and his wife or a gay couple, all things being equal?

    You can't do it can you? You know you'd want your kids left with that mom and dad over a gay couple, but you refuse to admit it.

    Save the silly....well it all depends on just who.......ha~~~ All things being equal, ok?
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    Do you really believe that situation has never ever happened? You can't be serious.

    Who would you want raising your children, a man and his wife or a gay couple, all things being equal?

    You can't do it can you? You know you'd want your kids left with that mom and dad over a gay couple, but you refuse to admit it.

    Save the silly....well it all depends on just who.......ha~~~ All things being equal, ok?
    all things being equal? i'd want to raise my kids myself. if not, then to trusted family (my sister, parents, etc)

    my sister recently got engaged, but even if she later turned out to be lesbian and got married to a woman, there's nobody i'd trust more

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    You look for a man and his wife first, if they aren't available then ya do what's best for the child.
    Which to you means to illegally discriminate against the gay couple by putting them in the back of the line. Got it.

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    As someone whose biological dad died when I was 9 (and my mom got married 4 years later, to a very good guy), there was a 2 year period where I didn't have a dad/father-figure, and I can remember how depressing it was. If it had continued, and my mom never re-married, or didn't re-marry a good guy, I don't know where I'd be tbqh. I have a friend whose dad also died young, however his mom never re-married. I'm pretty normal, my situation never had long-term repercussions, but my friend is pretty ed up, and I can tie a lot of that into him not having a father figure. His dad died when he was like 3...

    I think gays should be allowed to adopt but they have to be trained/educated/prepared before they can so that in raising the child they can account for what that child is going to grow up not having. I think brushing off what a (good) dad brings to the table, and acting like it's no big deal a gay couple can do it too without being educated, trained etc. is not only stupid but dangerous, potentially. Both roles NEED to be filled for optimal child development, but understand I don't believe they are required to be filled by the traditional the male & female. I do think however that whatever risk factors there are, not just by gay couple adoption but in ANY adoption, they need to be mitigated. The stats on focusing on adoption by gay couples raises some flags and it'd be a disservice to gay couple adoption rights (and not to mention the adopted children) to sweep them under the rug in the interest of political correctness.

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    The stats on focusing on adoption by gay couples raises some flags
    What stats

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    Damn, Mississippi is really going to work against the ghey

    JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — The Mississippi House is sending Republican Gov. Phil Bryant a bill that would let government employees and private businesses cite religious beliefs to deny services to same-sex couples who want to marry.

    Bryant would not say Friday whether he will sign House Bill 1523.


    Bryant said of the bill: "I'm going to look at it like I do every piece of legislation and as soon as I make that decision, I'll let you know."

    He signed a 2014 bill promoted by gay marriage opponents, saying government cannot put a substantial burden on religious practices. This year's bill is similar to the one Georgia's Republican governor vetoed Monday amid objections from businesses that said it would permit discrimination.

    The Mississippi bill is also similar to North Carolina's first-in-the-nation law that limits bathroom options for transgender people. Business executives are urging North Carolina Republican Gov. Pat McCrory to repeal the bill he signed March 23. The Mississippi bill says people would have to use public restrooms that correspond to their birth gender.

    Mississippi is one of 10 states considering bills in response to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling last summer that effectively legalized same-sex marriage nationwide.

    The Mississippi House passed the final version of the bill 69-45 Friday, two days after the Senate passed it 32-17. Republicans hold a majority in both chambers. Bryant has often said he believes marriage should be only between a man and a woman. Under the margins for final passage, there would not be enough votes to override if he vetoes the bill.

    Some corporations in Mississippi oppose the bill, including Nissan North America, which has a plant near Jackson; MGM Resorts International, which has casinos in Biloxi and Tunica; and Huntington Ingalls Industries, which has a shipyard in Pascagoula. All three are among the state's largest private employers.

    Republican Rep. Andy Gipson of Braxton, an attorney and pastor of a small Baptist church, told the House Friday that reporting about the bill has been biased against it.

    "Ladies and gentlemen, don't buy the deceptions, the untruths of these articles that you've seen. The talking heads — they're wrong. This is an anti-discrimination bill," said Gipson, chairman of the House Judiciary A Committee and one of the bill's sponsors.

    Democratic Rep. Christopher Bell of Jackson called the bill "an open container for discrimination across the board."

    "We're asking to legalize discrimination," Bell said. "What comes next? Are we going to start discriminating against interracial marriages? Are we going to start discriminating ... against African-Americans? Asians? Jews? When does it stop?"

    The House passed the bill a day after a federal judge blocked Mississippi from enforcing the nation's last ban on adoptions by same-sex couples. The bill says the state could not punish people involved with foster care or adoption who teach children that marriage should only be between a man and a woman, that sex should only take place inside such a marriage and that gender is set at birth.

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    Follow Emily Wagster Pettus on Twitter: http://twitter.com/EWagsterPettus .


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/miss-gove...046.html?nhp=1

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    all things being equal? i'd want to raise my kids myself. if not, then to trusted family (my sister, parents, etc)

    my sister recently got engaged, but even if she later turned out to be lesbian and got married to a woman, there's nobody i'd trust more
    Ok man.

    You are dying, you have no relatives, you have no friends, you have a son he is 10. You have nobody to leave the boy with so you put him up for adoption. Being he looks like you, not many want the boy, then finally, FINALLY, a gay couple and a man and his wife want him. It's your choice...well?

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    Ok man.

    You are dying, you have no relatives, you have no friends, you have a son he is 10. You have nobody to leave the boy with so you put him up for adoption. Being he looks like you, not many want the boy, then finally, FINALLY, a gay couple and a man and his wife want him. It's your choice...well?
    How bout make it the kids choice

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    You are dying, you have no relatives, you have no friends
    spare me your life story, man

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    by the way, there's no scenario where I die and i don't have anything in my will regarding who will get my children

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    spare me your life story, man
    So you would leave your kid to the man and his wife, why can't you admit that?

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    by the way, there's no scenario where I die and i don't have anything in my will regarding who will get my children
    Ok....

    So do you think a child should be raised with a mom and a dad or two moms or two dads. if everything else was equal?

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