So Danny hustles against Toronto and steals the ball in transition, tight ropes the baseline, saves the ball, makes a long cross court pass back in transition to Parker who proceeds to dribble it off his foot and turn it over.
What's up with Tony? He's playing at half speed, telegraphing his passes and seems to be "painting by numbers" on the court (meaning he's going to specific predetermined spots and living with the results instead of creating). Without his speed and quickness, what is Tony Parker to the Spurs? What does he do for them? You cannot argue with the record, but what does Tony's future look like if he has a poor showing in the playoffs again (3rd consecutive season)?
His turnover rate has ed in the past month..he had < or = 2 TOs in 14 of his last 17 games despite barely playing over 30 minutes in those games, not to mention shooting over .50 in only 5 games...he's regressed mightily from Nov-January level and he is headed to an ugly end to his season for third cons utive year after a promising start.
Sulking because of new role
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255957the ball moves more and he's aged worse than duncan and ginobili. duncan can still play d and ginobili is still the best passer in the league... parker's greatest talent was his speed. he was a scorer, not a shooter or one with court vision. anecdotal, but i feel like this season he's missed some easy lay ups. his step has been lost imo.
i appreciate what he's done for the franchise, there was a time when we needed him. we don't anymore.
I think he's adjusting to his new role as a facilitator. He's passing more than ever and not looking for his own shot through most of the game. That can lead to more turnovers. That said, he made some big shots in the 4th quarter to help stop the Raptors. I would hold off writing his obituary. He's still fast by NBA standards, but not inhumanly fast like he was 5 years ago.
just thought of a new drinking game: when parker takes 10 seconds off the shot clock before making his first pass of the possession, that's a shot.
You wouldn't make it past the halfway point of the first quarter. That seems to be Tony's major attribute this season...slowing the game down. Waay down.
That's the Spurs style...
exactly. it's a problem. and if we're gonna play at a slow tempo we're better off with miller.
Parker is part of the committee and while his biggest flaw (hero ball) is frustrating and can lose you a series, hes there biggest hes experienced at trying to make shots out of nothing when the flow or a set call generates no offense. Hes still valuable. The key for him is to know when not to hero ball and when to take advantage of the opportunuties he gets when teams start reacting to Leonard and aldridge.
When Tony switched from "create" to "run the offense" he became mechanical, robotic, predictable. You can see he basically goes through the motions but he's not accustomed to getting that deep into the paint without at least attempting a shot. These days he gets in there and has to find a bail out pass which often results in a turnover. The problem with baseline passes under the rim that result in turnovers is that the ball is intercepted out ahead of the majority of the pack already, and usually leads to a transition bucket at the other end.
I don't know what the answer is. Pop still wants to have Tony trying to get to the rim to open up the shooters and then he wants Tony to slow the game down, then speed it up. Tony is good at the slowing down part, as long as he can be methodical and robotic, he's ok. When he tries to improvise these days bad things happen.
Tony's "slow" style, seems to have nothing to do with running the offense or the "spurs style." He slowly dribbles to the 3 point line, passes it, then hides somewhere. He's not involved in any way on the offensive end. What "style" of basketball is that? , Kyle can do that much...and he's a natural at it.
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Can we get a gif of the sequence when the ball slipped out of Porker's hand (too much popcorn while on the bench most likely) then he starts backpedaling to get on defense and falls (his foot probably gave out from carrying all that weight)? I wanna say it was in the 4th Qtr but not 100% sure.
Thanks DMC for bringing this up... I can't do it anymore, I get labeled a hater or something... I want Tony to look great, tbh, he just isn't right, IMO
I'm sure somebody is going to bring up 38 y/o Manu to deflect, but if you gotta compare a 33 year old to a 38 year old, you're kinda making the point...
Coasting*
I dont have the game but, if ya gotta clip I'll make for ya.
Pop is obviously trying to get Parker and Duncan going by running a two-man between them to start off games which explains the slow starts but that isn't going to work in the playoffs.
inb4 lock
as long as he finishes above 45% from the field
I can't tell if this is serious or shtick. If it's the former, I hate to sound cliche, but it's not the age, it's the miles. Parker broke in at 19 and has always logged significantly more minutes than Ginobili. He was/is also more speed/quickness reliant.
Considering his size or lack thereof, where Parker is at mileage wise relative to his age, there's no precedent for this in the history of the league, so attempting to compare him to anyone else is silly.
You can have no mileage and be 50 and be slow as . Age is a factor here. Age 33 and 38 with comparable miles, the 38 year old has a harder time. edit.
I'm a guy that mentioned he would be the guy that will have the biggest problem adapting his game out of the big 3... but some people waved that off, that he would build a jumper, etc... it's never that easy. Guys like Tim or Manu just have a feel for the game that you can't teach, you could tell they would age more gracefully... but to this day, some posters think I'm trolling when I say something like that...
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