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    I get annoyed from any perception of lag. I hate the hesitation from implementing something to when it starts, and finishes. Any amount i can reduce this affect, is a good thing for me.
    A RAID-0 SSD, does almost exactly twice the single drive performance. You can easily go from 450GB/sec to nearly 900... at that point, the disk speed is no longer the bottleneck...

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    Those are pretty recent games though, but good tip. I actually ran my first DX12 game (Ashes of the Singularity) last night and I do get a 10fps bump on DX12 vs DX11 on my 960. It's not a lot, but interesting nonetheless.
    Is Ashes any good? Or does it just feel like a DX12 benchmark? Kind of like how Crysis 3 just feels like a gpu benchmark (the game is , unlike Crysis 1 which was awesome).

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    Is Ashes any good? Or does it just feel like a DX12 benchmark? Kind of like how Crysis 3 just feels like a gpu benchmark (the game is , unlike Crysis 1 which was awesome).
    I just installed it. Ran the benchmarks just to check the DX11 vs DX12 stats. I wanna finish Batman before I start that one, I'm about 88% in Batman...

    I let you know after I played a few missions

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    I just installed it. Ran the benchmarks just to check the DX11 vs DX12 stats. I wanna finish Batman before I start that one, I'm about 88% in Batman...

    I let you know after I played a few missions
    88% in Arkham Knight? You're a brave mother er. Then again you played Unity too, right? Just don't tell me you liked Watch Dogs.

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    88% in Arkham Knight? You're a brave mother er. Then again you played Unity too, right? Just don't tell me you liked Watch Dogs.
    I'm telling you this game is underrated. It runs pretty dope and it's a lot like Arkham Origins. I don't even have the latest patch...

    I did play Unity single player, and I did like Watchdogs (didn't love it like GTAV, but I did play it through).

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    I'm telling you this game is underrated. It runs pretty dope and it's a lot like Arkham Origins. I don't even have the latest patch...

    I did play Unity single player, and I did like Watchdogs (didn't love it like GTAV, but I did play it through).
    Holy , Firewatch must be awesome then

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    I don't even have the latest patch...
    I see you bought it from ^^nosteam^^?

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    Holy , Firewatch must be awesome then
    Look, I just give my opinion, I know player's taste for games varies... but really, if you don't want to cut your wrists after playing Firewatch for 45+ mins, I'll personally add another Spur under your name there...

    And seriously, you didn't like Arkhan Origins? I thought it was pretty darned good.

    I see you bought it from ^^nosteam^^?
    been doing fitgirl repacks for games im not too sure about, tbh...

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    oi Wild Cobra

    you going all out on new system, but what fkn monitor you gaming on? 4k, +34inch? u dont need all that bull , save urself 1k, and invest in a 4k monitor...at leasts the monitor will still be useful compared to parts becoming yesterdays technology once it leaves the shops shelves


    u play racing sims, i still have a g27 in a box unopened in the garage for 2-3 yrs now...i dont console game, but only some racings sime support steering wheel...whats a good racing sim for the pc clown?

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    oi Wild Cobra

    you going all out on new system, but what fkn monitor you gaming on? 4k, +34inch? u dont need all that bull , save urself 1k, and invest in a 4k monitor...at leasts the monitor will still be useful compared to parts becoming yesterdays technology once it leaves the shops shelves


    u play racing sims, i still have a g27 in a box unopened in the garage for 2-3 yrs now...i dont console game, but only some racings sime support steering wheel...whats a good racing sim for the pc clown?
    I plan on a two better monitors than my current WUXGA setup. As for racing wheels, I wore out three already and am on my fourth, though i wore them out on the PS2 and PS3.

    I don't need you opinion of what I do or don't need.

    I didn't need the WS6 I bought. I don't need my 9mm. I don't need a cat, but I may buy one sometime.

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    Look, I just give my opinion, I know player's taste for games varies... but really, if you don't want to cut your wrists after playing Firewatch for 45+ mins, I'll personally add another Spur under your name there...

    And seriously, you didn't like Arkhan Origins? I thought it was pretty darned good.



    been doing fitgirl repacks for games im not too sure about, tbh...
    I wanted to cut my wrists after 20 minutes of Watch Dogs.

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    I wanted to cut my wrists after 20 minutes of Watch Dogs.
    To be fair, that was a game that came out in like May, when there was jack else to play, tbh... I mean COD:BO3 is way, way worse if you ask me...

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    Talking about 4k screens, I was at Sam's Club this weekend, and I was floored on how much those TVs have come down in price now. You had 55" Vizio or LG UHD for around $700 bucks...

    I currently have dual 27" Samsung 1080p monitors at work, but I'm tempted to pick up maybe two of these:
    http://www.amazon.com/PB287Q-Monitor...dp/B00KJGY3TO/

    Or maybe one of this:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...cm_cd_asin_lnk

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    Talking about 4k screens, I was at Sam's Club this weekend, and I was floored on how much those TVs have come down in price now. You had 55" Vizio or LG UHD for around $700 bucks...

    I currently have dual 27" Samsung 1080p monitors at work, but I'm tempted to pick up maybe two of these:
    http://www.amazon.com/PB287Q-Monitor...dp/B00KJGY3TO/

    Or maybe one of this:
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...cm_cd_asin_lnk
    I would go with the 28 2160P" before the 34" 1440P, but then I would prefer a 32" to 36" 2160P. I'm not sure I would go for the extra fine DPI (dots per inch) of 4K on 28". I'm looking at a minimum $1k each for two monitors when I upgrade with current pricing.

    Why not pay $1k each? My WUXGA monitors were $380 and $360 when I bought them. They are about 94 DPI. The 28" 4K will have about 157 DPI. One thing for certain, images will be real crisp! Worse yet, I don't like widescreen TV aspect ratios. I would prefer the wide screen computer ratio, which means a WQUXGA (3840 x 2400) monitor, and wow... the few I found before are spendy, and I think they stopped production on them because of the extra cost over 4K monitors.

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    I think I would be OK with two WQXGA (2560x1600) monitors. Something like this:

    http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraShar...keywords=WQXGA

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    I would go with the 28 2160P" before the 34" 1440P, but then I would prefer a 32" to 36" 2160P. I'm not sure I would go for the extra fine DPI (dots per inch) of 4K on 28". I'm looking at a minimum $1k each for two monitors when I upgrade with current pricing.

    Why not pay $1k each? My WUXGA monitors were $380 and $360 when I bought them. They are about 94 DPI. The 28" 4K will have about 157 DPI. One thing for certain, images will be real crisp! Worse yet, I don't like widescreen TV aspect ratios. I would prefer the wide screen computer ratio, which means a WQUXGA (3840 x 2400) monitor, and wow... the few I found before are spendy, and I think they stopped production on them because of the extra cost over 4K monitors.
    Don't wanna blow that much on monitors... I'll probably use some of that dough to upgrade the vidcard when the new NVidia cards come out...

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    Don't wanna blow that much on monitors... I'll probably use some of that dough to upgrade the vidcard when the new NVidia cards come out...
    Are you going to get one of the GP104 cards (1070, 1080) or hold out for the big die GP100?

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    I didn't see that part. I have never heard of doing that. That video is for an older version, the Kraken x60. You could always go with a Corsair H110i GTX instead, they're really similar coolers and I have never heard of doing a two stage install with it.



    Yeah, I ing love the case. I can't stand small cases that are hard to work in, I love having a full tower.




    Nah, the way he installed it is with the fans pushing air from the inside of the case through the radiator and exhausting out the top of the case.
    Yeah, I was thinking of putting the fans so they exhaust out rather than in anyway. The neoprene hoses were also something I noticed, as Wild Cobra noted. Hope they don't break down, given how poorly electronics react to being covered in fluid.

    I will still go with the X-61. Air cooling is probably mechanically simpler, but not as efficient I would guess.

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    Yeah, I was thinking of putting the fans so they exhaust out rather than in anyway. The neoprene hoses were also something I noticed, as Wild Cobra noted. Hope they don't break down, given how poorly electronics react to being covered in fluid.

    I will still go with the X-61. Air cooling is probably mechanically simpler, but not as efficient I would guess.
    You mean putting the fans on top of the radiator to draw air through the rad and out the top? Because what they did was put the fans below the rad to push air through the rad and out the top of the case. Either way air is being exhausted out the top of the case. From testing I have seen it doesn't really make any difference if you put the fans on top or bottom.

    I recommended water cooling because those are pretty high power cpus. Even Intel recommends water cooling for those, but the Intel water cooler isn't as good as the NZXT and Corsair ones (they're both actually made by a company called Asetek that patented the closed loop design with the water pump on the cpu block). That air cooler I posted above is really good and is on sale for about $10-$15 less than it usually goes for, but the Kraken x61 will be a little better. The Kraken x61 the cooler I would absolutely want in my system if I was building something like what you have.

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    I really wouldn't sweat the overclocking, RandomGuy, it's so much easier than it was 15 years ago. It's mostly just

    (1) Let me turn up my clock speed by say 100MHz or 200 MHz in my BIOS (100 MHz bumps later on, 200 MHz early on)
    (2) Stress test with Prime95 for 20-30 minutes
    (3) Did it crash? If so, bump up the vcore a little bit, maybe 0.05 volt and go back to Step 2
    (4) If not, go back to Step 1

    When you overclock you'll usually get a lot of extra performance without much voltage for a while and then you'll hit a power wall where it will take way more vcore voltage to get even a measly 100 MHz more. I usually like to keep my speed a couple hundred MHz below where I start really running into that power wall, since I can leave vcore voltage lower. I probably wouldn't go above 1.35V vcore. Also check your temperatures when stress testing. I use Real Temp.

    http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/

    Anything 90C and above is too high and you should back down your OC a bit. But if you're at 90C on a Kraken x61 even stress testing with the Small FFT test in Prime95 you're probably already at that power wall.

    Setting in an overclock is mostly just sitting there doing nothing and seeing if stress tests pass or not.
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    And yeah, don't worry about overclocking your RAM until you find a stable overclock for your CPU, like the guide says. You can screw with the RAM later on, the CPU overclock usually gives more performance.

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    i got a game for ya, mother er

    its called life,

    its got winning and losing in it everyday, you vomitous mass

    so get out there and prevail or die, sugar britches

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    i got a game for ya, mother er

    its called life,

    its got winning and losing in it everyday, you vomitous mass

    so get out there and prevail or die, sugar britches
    Will do.

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    Are you going to get one of the GP104 cards (1070, 1080) or hold out for the big die GP100?
    Gonna wait for reviews and price points... leaning 104 actually, but if there's a good deal on 100 why not?

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    I was thinking of upgrading my graphics cards. Right now, I'm running 780 GTX SLIs. I was thinking of purchasing a 'ZOTAC GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB AMP Extreme.' Does anyone here think that I'd get more performance off a single card this way, or should I just get two of them...or would that be overkill?

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