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    What's up with the refs this season? From the games I've seen, mostly on the Spurs, they have missed a lot of 8 second violations. Just earlier, 80-78 and TP was sleepwalking and crossed the half-court line around the 15 second mark, this isnt the only time with TP. When I watched other games outside the Spurs, the refs seem to miss a lot of these calls as well. What the , some of those are actually game-changing

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    Refs just trying to get paid and get home. Hopefully in the playoffs they call fair games. Mainly with those GS moving screens/tackles.

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    It's basically just like how the guys are allowed to walk with the ball when they get it around the deep arc rather than properly pivot. As long as its not called both ways, it's fine.

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    What's up with the refs this season? From the games I've seen, mostly on the Spurs, they have missed a lot of 8 second violations. Just earlier, 80-78 and TP was sleepwalking and crossed the half-court line around the 15 second mark, this isnt the only time with TP. When I watched other games outside the Spurs, the refs seem to miss a lot of these calls as well. What the , some of those are actually game-changing
    Good call. I noticed the same thing. The Spurs (mostly Tony) seem to do it a lot. Every once in a while you see Manu catch himself and obviously speed up his dribble to almost jump across. Not sure why they don't call it. Maybe some officials are still thinking it's 10 seconds. The only time they seem to call it is if there's ball pressure with the defensive team trying to get the violation.

    It's sort of like how the don't call traveling. I don't know how many times I've seen guys lazily receive the inbounds pass with no backcourt pressure and start to walk without putting the ball on the floor.

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    Clock showed 16 before he was fully in, I remember watching it since I watched the replay... Anyways this wasnt the only time like I said. It just peeves me, it's probably the easiest call in the game.

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    Good call. I noticed the same thing. The Spurs (mostly Tony) seem to do it a lot. Every once in a while you see Manu catch himself and obviously speed up his dribble to almost jump across. Not sure why they don't call it. Maybe some officials are still thinking it's 10 seconds. The only time they seem to call it is if there's ball pressure with the defensive team trying to get the violation.

    It's sort of like how the don't call traveling. I don't know how many times I've seen guys lazily receive the inbounds pass with no backcourt pressure and start to walk without putting the ball on the floor.
    Was it 10 before? All my time watching ball it was 8 iirc. Anyway it could really piss you off if the other team did it

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    Was it 10 before? All my time watching ball it was 8 iirc. Anyway it could really piss you off if the other team did it
    It was 10 before, but the change happened some time ago. They made the change to speed up the pace of the games.

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    Yeah, I laughed when Tony crossed midcourt once and the clock clearly read 15 before he did. It didn't affect the outcome, as they missed the shot.

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    I don't get the rule, to be honest. If a team wants to waste the shot clock hanging in the backcourt, let them

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    Yeah, I laughed when Tony crossed midcourt once and the clock clearly read 15 before he did. It didn't affect the outcome, as they missed the shot.
    Yeah. I swear he was late. It has happened against the okc home game too, to kawhi and parker iirc.

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    I don't get the rule, to be honest. If a team wants to waste the shot clock hanging in the backcourt, let them
    It's usually for late-game situations when you want to trap or anytime for that matter tbh. It's for the other team.

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    It's usually for late-game situations when you want to trap or anytime for that matter tbh. It's for the other team.
    NBA players are way too good to be trapped. I can see some value in college and high school but with the pros it's not a big deal.

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    NBA players are way too good to be trapped. I can see some value in college and high school but with the pros it's not a big deal.
    It has happened though.

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    Clock showed 16 before he was fully in, I remember watching it since I watched the replay... Anyways this wasnt the only time like I said. It just peeves me, it's probably the easiest call in the game.
    Clock needs to show 15 for the violation

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    Clock needs to show 15 for the violation
    uhh 8 second violation 24-8=16 isnt that how it works

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    uhh 8 second violation 24-8=16 isnt that how it works
    The shot clock counts by tenths of a second now. So 24 is only on there for a flash, while 16 is on there for a full second. The complete time doesn't elapse until the clock reads 15.9, which shows up as 15 on the TV clock.

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    NBA players are way too good to be trapped. I can see some value in college and high school but with the pros it's not a big deal.
    Beno Udrih says hi.

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    The other problem is that the shot clock is above the backboard. There is no way with the current clock layout and referee positioning standards that this will ever be an accurate call. As someone who has refereed a ton of basketball games I can tell you that no one makes that call by using a clock. You count to yourself while watching for other far more common transgressions. You err on the side of giving too much time, so if it is close you give it to the offense. If they wanted to ensure that the call was made correctly you just need to put an 8-second clock at half court that would light up at 8 seconds. Then the officials line of sight could include ball, player, line and clock.

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    I think the refs get it pretty right. From watching YouTube vids of NBA eight-second calls, it seems like the one of the refs runs to the line and watches the clock while waiting for the player to pass them. I'm sure they make some little misjudgments in timing, but that seems like a good enough system.

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    uhh 8 second violation 24-8=16 isnt that how it works
    Exactly. The rule says you got 8 secs to pass the half-court. Not 7. You are legal from 24 to 16.0. The clock needs to show 15 (9 secs) for the violation.

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    The shot clock counts by tenths of a second now. So 24 is only on there for a flash, while 16 is on there for a full second. The complete time doesn't elapse until the clock reads 15.9, which shows up as 15 on the TV clock.
    Yup

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    I think the refs get it pretty right. From watching YouTube vids of NBA eight-second calls, it seems like the one of the refs runs to the line and watches the clock while waiting for the player to pass them. I'm sure they make some little misjudgments in timing, but that seems like a good enough system.
    If there's no ball pressure, I don't even care if they are watching the clock. But instead just the manual count. Doesn't really affect anything.

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    Aight thanks for clearing it up fams

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    Aight thanks for clearing it up fams
    De rien. It's the least we could do to repay you for your sig.

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