NBA: WestBrick is EASILY the most overrated MVP candidate

[Kawhitstorm]

He hasn't had any triple doubles against the the 3 real contenders: Duds/Spurs/Cavs.....actually he was horrific in a couple of matchups against those teams.

He leads the league in turnovers per 48 minutes, has the WORST Adjusted Field Goal Percentage (49%) among the top 4 players in FGA & has the WORST 3P% (30%) among all players not named Kobrick w/ 300 attempts .

Besides, he's the point guard of a team that can't closeout games & execute during crunch-time. He's basically the MVP of crushing non-contenders & even then he was terrible against the Pistons when KD wasn't by his side.

Harden is better than him & proved it this past Sunday.

[spurraider21]

westbrook is in the same boat as demarcus cousins... has the talent to be the best player in the NBA but gets in his own way of doing so. i mean he's a PG averaging 8 rebounds and 10 assists

he's gotten his overall shooting% up, but he still takes way too many dumb outside shots. transition pull-up jumpers from 20 feet, waay too many 3's for a guy who quite frankly isn't and never was a good 3 point shooter. he should just accept it and become more effcient, modeling his shot selection after d-wade.

coming out of UCLA he was supposed to come in and be the next gary peyton defensively, but he really hasn't lived up, though he has the size and athletic ability to actually be one of the great defensive players of the position.

plus he's mistake prone in crunch time, has too big an ego, is generally re ed, etc.

[Kawhitstorm]

westbrook is in the same boat as demarcus cousins... has the talent to be the best player in the NBA but gets in his own way of doing so

WestBrick is a low IQ (Steve Francis status) version of Baron Davis except he's in shape & "plays hard". I'll take 2008 playoff Baron Davis over WestBrick 7 days a week, Davis was basically a smaller version James Harden w/ elite athleticism.

[spurraider21]

baron davis was an inefficient chucker who could throw down nice dunks. he was a tier westbrook who had 1 healthy season in his prime and has become over-glorified because his 8 seed team won an exciting series one time

westbrook > harden > davis/francis are a wash, but i'd give a slight edge to davis because he had memorable playoff moments

[hater]

What re said Chuckbrook is and MVP candidate?????

I wanna see links to these re ed humans

[Brazil]

I'm saying that for a while tbh...

<3

[TDMVPDPOY]

his continuing what he did last season with a late push in the 2nd half of the season by padding stats for tripple doubles

i dont give a if he avgs a tripple double, when his team record is 3rd in west and lower, he has no business winning mvp...

and for that other pos curry who was god mode all season, i dont care if he +30ppg and all these advance stats, when ur the superior team all year, yet by the end of the season ur only 1 game ahead of 2nd place or tied with 2nd place team then he cant be clear cut mvp

[hater]

Lol I remember when he played lime 45 minutes a game at the end of the season until someone dented his face

[will_spurs]

What re said Chuckbrook is and MVP candidate?????

I wanna see links to these re ed humans

It's all over ESPN...

Anyway Westbrook needs to get coached (and benched from time to time). Since it's not happening, he'll remain a stat-padder.

[hater]

It's all over ESPN...

Anyway Westbrook needs to get coached (and benched from time to time). Since it's not happening, he'll remain a stat-padder.

Well that explains it. ESPN is a network run by re s.

[will_spurs]

Well that explains it. ESPN is a network run by re s.

Yup, nothing new under the sun.

[apalisoc_9]

Pretty much. Non mainstream fans have him out of the top 5 though.

Still, love westbrook. One of my favourite nba personalities.

[Brazil]

Pretty much. Non mainstream fans have him out of the top 5 though.

Still, love westbrook. One of my favourite nba personalities.

Harlem is a big fan.. he has him easy in his top 5 tbh

[hater]

It's Elian alone at #1.

Kawhi alone at #2

Lebron at 3

And probably CP3 at 4 by a looooooooooooooong shot.

Absolutely no one else

[hater]

Harlem is a big fan.. he has him easy in his top 5 tbh

Well if you must have 5 MVP candidates then I guess he's as good as any. But why not go ahead and have 100 MVP candidates then?

Stupidity

[apalisoc_9]

Harlem is a big fan.. he has him easy in his top 5 tbh

Wb is a top 5 player in the league. Dominos is probably the 2nd or third best player in the world though. He should leave because hes going to get overshadowed by the raw statistical numbers westbrook is putting up

[spurraider21]

Wb is a top 5 player in the league.

Non mainstream fans have him out of the top 5 though.

well i guess we know who the mainstream fan here is

[apalisoc_9]

well i guess we know who the mainstream fan here is

Im talking about mvp this year dumbass.

I actually have paul at 5th right now.

[spurraider21]

lol mainstream fan

spurs shouldn't get aldridge

[Brazil]

Wb is a top 5 player in the league. Dominos is probably the 2nd or third best player in the world though. He should leave because hes going to get overshadowed by the raw statistical numbers westbrook is putting up

WB is this year borderline top 5 tbh...

Dude is a freak and you cannot deny his impact on the game but at the same his IQ is terrible... he cannot control himself, shooting 3 or 4 3s per game when you are one of the worst 3 pts shooter of the league is beyond me... I agree on Durant he is right there, he is actually improving his game especially passing but because of RW and his apparent softness he is becoming pretty underrated imo

[DMC]

RW reminds of of those pool players who spend 20 minutes rolling a stick around on a table to see if it's straight, then shoot as hard as they possibly can on every shot, never heard of pocket speed, and they lose. That's RW. Oh he's gifted, sure thing, but brains weren't in that gift.

[Kawhitstorm]

baron davis was an inefficient chucker who could throw down nice dunks. he was a tier westbrook who had 1 healthy season in his prime and has become over-glorified because his 8 seed team won an exciting series one time.

davis/francis are a wash

You sir are an epic dumbass for comparing Baron Davis to Steve Francis!!!

You are aware Baron Davis had an All-Star/All-NBA career w/ the Hornets before he ed up his back during the peak of his prime (ala T-Mac) & became a fat ?

2000-01: (2nd year in the league)
-Led an upset the Heat in the 1st rd: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...s-vs-heat.html
-Took the same Bucks that should have gone to the Finals if they didn't get jobbed by the refs against the Sixers to 7 games:



2002-03: (Mashburn misses the postseason b/c of illness)
-Outplayed All-NBA 1st team T-Mac & almost averages a triple double for the series: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...s-hornets.html







-Held his own against MVP candidate PEAK J-Kidd in the 2nd rd w/ David Wesley as his wingman: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...s-vs-nets.html

2003: Injured his back & missed a bunch of game but had a solid series against the Sixers: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...-vs-76ers.html

2003-04:
-Starts the season on FIYAH & was the leading MVP candidate: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/200...vis-heat-guard

Tonight, Davis enters as the early-season Most Valuable Player of the Eastern Conference, if not the entire league.

"He's playing absolutely incredible basketball," Heat coach Stan Van Gundy said Monday.

How dominant has Davis been through the first month of the season?

Monday he stood first in the league in assists (112), first in steals (44), first in 3-pointers made (53), second in scoring average (24.7) and third in minutes (561).

For good measure, he was coming off a game-winning dunk in the final second of Sunday's 81-80 victory in Detroit.

"There's nobody playing better than Baron right now," Pistons guard Chauncey Billups said. "He's unbelievable."

...then he ed up his back before the all-star break & he never regained his peak form but showed flashes in Golden State ala T-Mac in Houston.





Meanwhile, Francis NEVER won a SINGLE playoff series (actually made the playoff ONLY once & won ONE game in his career), NEVER made an all-NBA team & was trash once he lost his quickness. If you want to compare Francis to anyone then it should be Marbury.

[313]

Westbrook <3

[spurraider21]

way too long of a post

francis at his peak had a higher PER, more win shares, higher win shares per 48, shot better from the field (FG and TS), better VORP numbers than baron davis

they're in the same ballpark, but like i said, i'll give an edge to davis because he had playoff moments. don't go nuts overrating davis, who's legacy is vastly inflated because of the 2007 first round series

francis only made the playoffs once, and it was against a vastly superior lakers squad, and francis outplayed kobe for most of that series... http://www.basketball-reference.com/...vs-lakers.html

[Kawhitstorm]

francis at his peak had a higher PER, more win shares, higher win shares per 48, shot better from the field (FG and TS), better VORP numbers than baron davis

Which explain why Baron made the All-NBA team over Francis in 2003-04 when they were BOTH at their peak. Francis NEVER won "Player of the Month" & never got a SINGLE MVP vote in his ENTIRE career.

Besides, Francis advanced stats weren't better than Baron's when he was ACTUALLY playing on a playoff team (2003-04).

they're in the same ballpark, but like i said, i'll give an edge to davis because he had playoff moments.

Baron Davis playoff career is better than Steve Francis ENTIRE career. Francis was voted as a STARTER into the All-star game b/c of his And-1 videos & Yao.

Trash ass Tyreke Evans was putting up similar number as a rookie on a trash ass team.

don't go nuts overrating davis, who's legacy is vastly inflated because of the 2007 first round series

Forget 2007, give me a list of players that have ACTUALLY outplayed T-Mac at his PEAK in a playoff series. Not beat him but OUTPLAYED him head-to-head
...still waiting.

francis only made the playoffs once, and it was against a vastly superior lakers squad, and francis outplayed kobe for most of that series... http://www.basketball-reference.com/...vs-lakers.html

Rip Hamilton outplayed 2004 Kobrick, that isn't saying much buddy. That ain't no where in the ball park as averaging close to a triple-double in a series or outplaying PEAK T-Mac.

Francis got traded b/c he couldn't play "winning" basketball (ala Marbury) & was interested in a dribbling exhibition rather than giving the ball to Yao.