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Yup...our only hope at reaching the Finals this year is if OKC or LAC takes out the Warriors. Otherwise, we're going to get assraped with no vaseline in the WCF...IF we make it that far.
^ this
They're just too good from downtown. Every single player on the Warriors can hit the 3 reliably. You cannot defend them. You have to hope they have an off night and miss a bunch of shots. It's the only way you can hope to beat them.
Yup...our only hope at reaching the Finals this year is if OKC or LAC takes out the Warriors. Otherwise, we're going to get assraped with no vaseline in the WCF...IF we make it that far.
I disagree here. The Spurs have devolved into a top heavy scoring team over the past 2 months. If LMA and Kawhi aren't combining for 50-60 points, this team struggles. All a team like the Warriors has to do is swarm LMA, let Kawhi get his or also swarm him/ball denial him, and concentrate on containing the role players, who aren't a threat to equalize the Warriors role players.
We have no "3rd guy" to punish the Warriors with a big performance when they're focusing their attention on LMA and Kawhi. The Warriors have 2 to 3 different players who can go off aside from Curry/Klay. Barnes tonight was that guy.
Loss, yes. But Spurs are mostly cold. And the more you miss against GS, the more they can get into the open court.
They might very well be the better team... they're the defending champs having an historical season for a reason... but you can't quit... an injury here or there, a long series that wears them out, one of our guys catches fire at the right time...
Anything can happen from here til the WCF (if both teams make it that far)...
Another got thread but then you're gonna hide when the Spurs beat them in SA.
It seems we're always "cold" on the road.
Thanks in advance for that 200, broAnother got thread but then you're gonna hide when the Spurs beat them in SA.
In theory, they have a bevy of post up bigs and two elite wing defenders. Plus, they're probably the only team capable of playing the game on the same level intellectually.
They've got their issues, but who matches up better? I'm not saying the Clippers, Thunder or Cavs, couldn't potentially give them a better series, but I wouldn't say they match-up better.
Talking about "starters" and "committee", the bench played very well this 2nd half... probably gonna get lost in all the noise
Why are we the only non got posters on this board. SMH all these ing down syndrome cliff jumpers. Bunch of clowns hereAnother got thread but then you're gonna hide when the Spurs beat them in SA.
Problem is you need consistent 3 point shooting to protect your post-up bigs from getting doubled/swarmed. Kawhi is really the only consistent 3 point shooter on the team. And given Duncan's age and Boris's inconsistency, I don't think we necessarily have a bevy.
Yeah, coming to play down 21
Why was that Cub quote about the Rockets?
"Down 0-3 and finally decided to play yourselves some basketball."
Fine, but who has more post up bigs? It's all relative. Also, I doubt they completely disregard the likes of Green, Mills and Ginobili, from three. They all have good enough reputations and that's mostly what defense is based off of.
The thing is, it's not like this is a weakness of GS. Draymond might be undersized, but he's still an elite post-up defender and is wide/strong enough to where you can't just overpower him. Bogut is one of the best interior and post-up defenders in the league. Ezeli is no slouch either.
On the wings you have Iguodala, who is also a very solid post-up defender. Look at what he did against LeBron last year in the Finals when LeBron kept iso'ing. Barnes isn't a great defender, but he's not bad enough to where Kawhi can just keep exploiting him or anything.
People keep acting like we should just post them up to death, but I'm really not sure that's a good strategy. If our offense is based around isolating against DPOTY-caliber guys like Draymond and Bogut, that's probably not going to bode well for us.
well, it was our bench vs their bench... cut the lead down to 14... defense wasn't good, but we could score on them...Yeah, coming to play down 21
Why was that Cub quote about the Rockets?
"Down 0-3 and finally decided to play yourselves some basketball."
Look, all these regular season games left are basically experimental playgrounds right now... what works, what doesn't... I liked KMart on his stint offensively for example
True, but it's still something you've got to be able to do against them, particularly when they go small with Green at center, if for no other reason than it slows the game down.
Maybe posting to death isn't a great idea, but what's a better one? Just playing out of motion isn't going to get it done; they have too high a collective IQ to out smart them.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly. My only concern is Manu or Timmy spontaneously combusting or something during the playoffs. Timmy has been very shaky every since he put that 2nd knee brace on...
Yeah I get the logic behind it...you have to punish them for playing a 6'8" guy at center and you want to prevent them from playing at their usual frantic pace. It just unfortunately isn't that easy/effective in reality. If we're relying on the bulk of our offense to come from posting up and isolating against guys like Draymond/Bogut/Iguodala, then we're out of luck.
its key that the bigs are the key to us winning this tbh... LMA has to punish them or else we lose
Well like I've said, that sucks for us then. Draymond and Bogut are two of the best defenders in the league. Relying on him punishing DPOTY-caliber players doesn't make me feel very confident.
6'7''.
Then we're out of luck. They've got to go with what gives them the best chance though.
Not that it's all that relevant, but I still think this is more about the big three aging and this team transforming the way they play, than anything else. Two-three years ago, I'm confident they'd beat these arrogant pricks.
This is a good point. We go as far as they take us and I have said it before in other contexts. If they struggle we are doomed.
Nothing can be done about it.
Aside from them,
Tim is too old,
Manu is too old,
Tony is maybe in that category but I am holding out hope for him, just if the other two: LMA and Kawhi don't show up, he's not going to morph into your best scoring option. Those days are over. He thrives getting his own stuff when we need it but he is not going to maintain that all game, plus get posted up and attacked as the weakest defender on the other end. Frankly Tony has a lot to handle on his plate.
Danny is a limited player who needs to be set up for shots. Luckily he had the 3 ball going this game or this really would have been a blow out, but the point is he's streaky too and can't be counted on to fill in the blans if the others don't show up either.
The bench has struggled scoring at times bc Patty is streaky as heck, Manu is better but he's not going to carry the bench if others are not doing squat. He thrives in the group effort, he can hit shots if he's set up, and he can set others up, but he's not going to dominate on his own anymore, nor should we expect him to.
The bench misses Bobo. Dwest is a terrific passer but he likes the PnP shot, he's rarely getting inside to get you a bucket when the jumpshots are not falling. Dwest also not a rim protector and can't defend a PnR to save his life, specially with Patty. Rebounding has been lacking all season in the bench, he ball watches. That is why Pop plays Anderson so much with the bench (still got 11 rebounds in less than 20 minutes in this game). Martin is a scorer, I am glad he got it going in this game, but his defense is very much lacking, which makes it a very risky proposition to play him. If we hadn't been attempting a come back from behind I don't think he plays. Regardless the bench did well enough for what we needed. The starters are not clicking very well and that is no surprise as they have had up and downs all season.
Credit to the Warriors, they are an elite team, playing at home and they were motivated. It will take all guys playing well to defeat them and we haven't hit that nirvana and we maybe don't have it, but I am not going to blow it out of proportion bc I think in the end the game wasn't fully representative of what we can do bc we didn't have Boris, who played a good 35 minutes the last game.
The real concern might be TD. He is turning into Tiago.
He was shaky since before being rested bc of the knee soreness. Frankly he got that brace and I don't think that knee is 100%.Pretty much my thoughts exactly. My only concern is Manu or Timmy spontaneously combusting or something during the playoffs. Timmy has been very shaky every since he put that 2nd knee brace on...
I think he and Manu should probably rest until the season ends, the home record means nothing, we need healthy players, , i may not even play them in a couple of first round games if that is what it takes to have them healthy.
I think one of the players that concerns me the most is Patty Mills, he not only is NOT making his shots, but his defense has changed from "average" to "disastrous" and he seems to be unable to fight through any screen now, also being small against GS is not good as youŽll most likely end in a switch, Andre Miller might end up a better player to have against them if he does have 10-15 minutes left in him, he can set up players like Manu, Martin and Green, something Patty does very little.
I took a few good things from the game:
TP can play on the defensive end against this team, that is a great news.
Martin is a good option for the second unit.
Danny seems to have found some of his stroke back.
O the other hand the bads are:
TD is looking unplayable against this team when Bogut is not out there (and almost in general) which takes away our biggest advantage.
Patty has a hard time scoring against a physical team and seems unable to guard anyone.
A defensive protector for the second unit is needed because neither West or Diaw would do that, this is were i think TD might find a sweet spot, their second unit is a bit slower and Tim plays very well with ours.
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