"just get the brick"
"Pass?"
"Tissot"
As I've been saying for years, it's very difficult to build an offense around a SF if he isn't a point-forward like Lebron or Larry Bird, tbh..even a historically great offensive player like Durant is constantly "frozen out" due to scheme/PG, it's not an easy position to successfully carry an offense..
In the case of the Spurs, with the way the roster is constructed, Parker is always going to get his "mandatory touches"..partly due to his status in the all-time landscape of the Spurs, but also because he becomes useless if the ball isn't in his hands..if he's on the court, he essentially needs the ball in his hands as much as possible or it's pointless to have him out there, and of course Pop isn't going to bench him..
You just answered your own problem. The offense is bad due to a player. Not Kawhi. Besides this team could have won 70 games this year if it wanted. The team is a top 5 team RS alltime.
It was Patty/Manu that froze out Kawhi after LMA checked out.
No it wasn't you stupid .It was Patty/Manu that froze out Kawhi after LMA checked out.
No it wasn't you stupid .
3:18.0 L. Aldridge misses 2-pt shot from 1 ft (block by A. Bogut) 13-15 3:17.0 13-15 Defensive rebound by H. Barnes 3:11.0 Personal foul by L. Aldridge 13-15 3:11.0 13-15 Golden State full timeout 3:11.0 P. Mills enters the game for K. Leonard 13-15 3:11.0 M. Ginobili enters the game for L. Aldridge 13-15 3:11.0 D. West enters the game for T. Parker 13-15 3:11.0 13-15 L. Barbosa enters the game for H. Barnes 3:11.0 13-15 F. Ezeli enters the game for A. Bogut 3:11.0 13-15 D. Green enters the game for K. Thompson 2:52.0 13-15 F. Ezeli misses 2-pt shot from 5 ft 2:52.0 Defensive rebound by D. Green 13-15 2:39.0 M. Ginobili misses 3-pt shot from 26 ft 13-15 2:38.0 13-15 Defensive rebound by S. Curry 2:35.0 13-15 S. Curry misses 2-pt shot from 13 ft 2:35.0 Defensive rebound by D. Green 13-15 2:23.0 Turnover by M. Ginobili (lost ball) 13-15 2:10.0 13-15 F. Ezeli misses 2-pt shot from 1 ft 2:09.0 Defensive rebound by D. Green 13-15 2:03.0 T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot at rim (assist by D. West) +2 15-15 1:49.0 Violation by T. Duncan (kicked ball) 15-15 1:44.0 15-18 +3 L. Barbosa makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft (assist by S. Curry) 1:21.0 Turnover by T. Duncan (lost ball; steal by A. Iguodala) 15-18 1:16.0 Personal foul by M. Ginobili 15-18 1:13.0 15-18 S. Curry misses 2-pt shot from 2 ft (block by D. Green) 1:13.0 15-18 Offensive rebound by Team 1:06.0 15-18 L. Barbosa misses 2-pt shot from 8 ft 1:05.0 15-18 Offensive rebound by L. Barbosa 1:04.0 15-18 L. Barbosa misses 2-pt shot from 3 ft 1:04.0 15-18 Offensive rebound by F. Ezeli 1:03.0 15-18 F. Ezeli misses 2-pt shot from 1 ft 1:01.0 Defensive rebound by T. Duncan 15-18 0:51.0 T. Duncan misses 2-pt shot from 1 ft 15-18 0:51.0 15-18 Defensive rebound by A. Iguodala 0:45.0 15-18 Turnover by A. Iguodala (lost ball; steal by P. Mills) 0:33.0 D. Green misses 3-pt shot from 27 ft 15-18 0:33.0 15-18 Defensive rebound by F. Ezeli 0:14.0 15-20 +2 S. Curry makes 2-pt shot from 2 ft 0:03.0 P. Mills misses 3-pt shot from 27 ft 15-20 0:01.0 15-20 Defensive rebound by Team 0:00.0 15-20 S. Curry misses 3-pt shot from 68 ft 0:00.0 15-20 Offensive rebound by Team 0:00.0 End of 1st quarter
No it wasn't you stupid .
2nd Quarter (Back to Top) Time San Antonio Score Golden State 12:00.0 Start of 2nd quarter 11:50.0 15-20 D. Green misses 2-pt shot from 1 ft 11:49.0 Defensive rebound by K. Anderson 15-20 11:39.0 K. Leonard misses 2-pt shot from 2 ft 15-20 11:38.0 15-20 Defensive rebound by D. Green 11:35.0 15-23 +3 B. Rush makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft (assist by D. Green) 11:13.0 D. West misses 2-pt shot from 7 ft 15-23 11:12.0 15-23 Defensive rebound by D. Green 11:01.0 15-25 +2 S. Livingston makes 2-pt shot at rim (assist by D. Green) 10:48.0 P. Mills misses 2-pt shot from 20 ft 15-25 10:47.0 15-25 Defensive rebound by D. Green 10:39.0 15-25 D. Green misses 2-pt shot from 2 ft 10:39.0 Defensive rebound by Team 15-25 10:26.0 15-25 Personal foul by L. Barbosa 10:26.0 15-25 M. Speights enters the game for F. Ezeli 10:26.0 15-25 K. Thompson enters the game for L. Barbosa 10:24.0 15-25 Personal foul by S. Livingston 10:11.0 P. Mills misses 3-pt shot from 23 ft 15-25 10:11.0 15-25 Defensive rebound by K. Thompson 10:05.0 Personal foul by P. Mills 15-25 10:02.0 15-27 +2 K. Thompson makes 2-pt shot from 11 ft (assist by S. Livingston) 9:46.0 M. Ginobili misses 2-pt shot from 14 ft 15-27 9:45.0 15-27 Defensive rebound by M. Speights 9:38.0 15-29 +2 D. Green makes 2-pt shot at rim (assist by K. Thompson) 9:18.0 Shooting foul by B. Rush (drawn by K. Anderson) 15-29 9:18.0 K. Anderson makes 2-pt shot from 2 ft (assist by D. West) +2 17-29 9:18.0 K. Anderson makes free throw 1 of 1 +1 18-29 9:02.0 18-29 S. Livingston misses 2-pt shot from 12 ft 9:02.0 Defensive rebound by K. Anderson 18-29 8:51.0 18-29 Personal foul by K. Thompson 8:51.0 Official timeout 18-29 8:51.0 L. Aldridge enters the game for M. Ginobili 18-29
1st quarter you stupid . Don't ever talk to me again.
You mean when Pop was FORCE feeding LMA until he ed up his finger?1st quarter you stupid . Don't ever talk to me again.
Porky took more shots than Kawhi but it was b/c the Worriers were daring him to shoot while Pop had Kawhi camped in the corner by design for LMA's postups meanwhile Patty/Manu were hero-ballin' when LMA was OUT of the game.
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It's horrible to watch Parker dribble for 17 seconds then passing the ball to a guy with 5 seconds or less left. If he passes at all actually. How pop allows this is insane
Parker was always a shoot-first point guard. What did you think, he was gonna suddenly transform into John Stockton when he turned 30?
Of course I'm not "blaming" Kawhi, I'm just saying it's a tough position to build around if you have other players that need to "eat", too..
Kawhi has become the featured player for the Spurs, but not to the extent you see with virtually all other teams and their stars..he doesn't have carte blanche and the team often treats him like a big, where they "forget" to give him the ball for stretches..
Pop for the most part runs a laissez faire offense in the regular season so it's to be expected.
Yes it was.No it wasn't you stupid .
If I had the energy, I could screen cap every game this season in which Patty and Kawhi are on the floor, and Patty, contrary to what you idiots believe, doesn't just dribble the ball down and "gib it to Kiwi." He either hands it off to Manu or runs the offense himself similarly to how Tony runs it, and Patty has even worse tunnel vision than Tony.
As Harlem said above, it's very difficult to for an SF to "run the offense" unless he's an elite passer. Furthermore, PGs and SFs are typically spaced on opposite sides of the floor and don't really play 2 man games. If they did, spacing would be ed. A PG usually plays a 2 man game with a big man, and from there, the offense is set in motion.
I don't get where this myth comes from that Patty on the floor means more touches for Kawhi. Patty looks for his shot just as much as Tony does.
USG isn't perfect when it comes to judging how involved a player is, but...
with Parker on: Kawhi's USG = 24.5%
with Mills on, Parker off: Kawhi's USG = 28.5%
Obviously some people here exaggerate things, but I think it's pretty fair to say Kawhi tends to be more involved with the offense when Parker isn't playing.
Look at some of these set plays from Triangle and Horns:
I can go on. Very, very rarely does a set play (in any set or scheme) have a PG and SF directly interacting. Parker isn't "ignoring" Kawhi out of jealously, wanting to the hero, or any other silly in' conspiracy Kiwi fanboys have cooked up. It's by design, because that's the way the design has always been throughout basketball history.
And the reason Kawhi seems to play better alongside Mills, is because Mills can space the floor more than Parker. But Mills is limited in too many other areas for that 135-95 ORTG/DRTG to be sustainable long term. Over a significant sample size, Mills would make the starting unit worse than Parker has made it. Mills has a perfect role off the bench as a quick offense player. Wanting to change the Parker/Mills rotation would be asinine. That said, I do support Mills closing the game in certain instances, but not wholesale replacing Parker's role, like some dip s want.
Meaningless without context. If LMA is also subbed out, Kawhi's usage is naturally going to increase. Also, Manu/Boris typically enters the game with Mills, and both are willing passers.
Well doneLook at some of these set plays from Triangle and Horns:
I can go on. Very, very rarely does a set play (in any set or scheme) have a PG and SF directly interacting. Parker isn't "ignoring" Kawhi out of jealously, wanting to the hero, or any other silly in' conspiracy Kiwi fanboys have cooked up. It's by design, because that's the way the design has always been throughout basketball history.
And the reason Kawhi seems to play better alongside Mills, is because Mills can space the floor more than Parker. But Mills is limited in too many other areas for that 135-95 ORTG/DRTG to be sustainable long term. Over a significant sample size, Mills would make the starting unit worse than Parker has made it. Mills has a perfect role off the bench as a quick offense player. Wanting to change the Parker/Mills rotation would be asinine. That said, I do support Mills closing the game in certain instances, but not wholesale replacing Parker's role, like some dip s want.
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