Kawhi had less shots than the Warriors 4th option last night...

[YGWHI]

So you tell me, "At least you admit he can't run picks anymore!" and then in the same breath WANTING a player than can't run pick-and-rolls anymore to run it with your favorite player? So if Parker can't run pick-and-rolls, why the do you want him running it with Kawhi? Pick a lane, dip .

Because he still runs and will do it...Better find a good option for those P&Rs

And there you go again putting words in my mouth. I never said Parker WILL drop 25 on the Warriors, only that he needs to have a couple of games like that if we have a hope in of winning that series.

Parker with a couple of 25-points-game against Warriors...Poor mid. Is this serious?

If you want this to happen, tell Pop to play Kawhi at SG or to improve his passing and ball handling to Lebron levels.

Kawhi's passing and ball handling have improved enough to run it, he doesn't need to reach LeBron level to just play a simple P&R.

And it's stupid to not get other players involved.

Of course, you think Parker will beat them. Keep feeding him over Kawhi...

No he hasn't.

Yes, but you don't want to admit it.

[SAGirl]

As I've been saying for years, it's very difficult to build an offense around a SF if he isn't a point-forward like Lebron or Larry Bird, tbh..even a historically great offensive player like Durant is constantly "frozen out" due to scheme/PG, it's not an easy position to successfully carry an offense..

In the case of the Spurs, with the way the roster is constructed, Parker is always going to get his "mandatory touches"..partly due to his status in the all-time landscape of the Spurs, but also because he becomes useless if the ball isn't in his hands..if he's on the court, he essentially needs the ball in his hands as much as possible or it's pointless to have him out there, and of course Pop isn't going to bench him..

Have to agree with you on roles Harlem. I wasn't in with your schtick against LMA and Danny who slumps no matter who he plays with this season, but this take right here you are right.

[midnightpulp]

Because he still runs and will do it...Better find a good option for those P&Rs


Parker with a couple of 25-points-game against Warriors...Poor mid. Is this serious?

It doesn't need to be 25 exactly, but 18 plus points at the very least.

Kawhi's passing and ball handling have improved enough to run it, he doesn't need to reach LeBron level to just play a simple P&R.

SFs don't really run PnRs. Get it out of your thick head. I know you want Kawhi running the offense like Lebron or being force-fed like Kobe. Isn't going to happen. So save that fantasy for something else.

Of course, you think Parker will beat them. Keep feeding him over Kawhi...

Never said that. But you're not beating the Warriors with a top heavy Kawhi/LMA attack. Someone else is going to have to be a threat to score 20ish points now and again.

Yes, but you don't want to admit it.

Game 1 vs. Warriors:

Kawhi: 25 mins. 6FGA, 7FTAs

Parker: 18 mins. 6FGA, 0 FTAs.

Game 2:

Kawhi: 39 min. 14FGA, 8FTA

Parker: 29 min. 8 FGA, 0FTA

Game 3:

Kawhi: 35 min. 12FGA, 8FTA

Parker: 27 min. 10FGA, 4FTA

Totals:

Kawhi .434FGA per minute.

Parker: 432FGA per minute.

That said, I want Kawhi getting more shot attempts, and he will in a potential series if he's not overly ball denied, swarmed, etc. You see how Wiggins demolished the Warriors? Pop knows the Warriors might be weak in defending SFs, so I don't think he's really showed his cards yet regarding Kawhi.

[YGWHI]

It doesn't need to be 25 exactly, but 18 plus points at the very least.

Well, you said 25.

Totals:

Kawhi .434FGA per minute.

Parker: 432FGA per minute.

Of course...2FGA. Parker is taking almost the same shots with a "fine" USG% but not he wasn't the #2 option, right?.

That said, I want Kawhi getting more shot attempts, and he will in a potential series if he's not overly ball denied, swarmed, etc. You see how Wiggins demolished the Warriors? Pop knows the Warriors might be weak in defending SFs, so I don't think he's really showed his cards yet regarding Kawhi.

This is so funny.

You made a thread just to say that "Parker's not jealous/not willing to pass the ball...it's about he can play on offense only with LMA, runs P&Rs with him, getting him only involved, that Kawhi USG% only increased when Parker/LMA aren't on the court"...And now you think that Kawhi will have a chance to more gets shots...with Parker on the court?

[midnightpulp]

Well, you said 25.




Of course...2FGA. Parker is taking almost the same shots with a "fine" USG% but not he wasn't the #2 option, right?.


This is so funny.

You made a thread just to say that "Parker's not jealous/not willing to pass the ball...it's about he can play on offense only with LMA, runs P&Rs with him, getting him only involved, that Kawhi USG% only increased when Parker/LMA aren't on the court"...And now you think that Kawhi will have a chance to more gets shots...with Parker on the court?

I don't know how you extrapolate that Parker playing well alongside LMA translates into him being only to play with LMA and only getting him involved. Is it really that shocking of in' revelation to you that a PG who has played his whole career with post up bigs is going to increase the amount of shot attempts a big gets compared to a player like Mills, who is basically a SG playing point guard?

Furthermore, Parker's assist percentage is 5% higher than Mills's in the same lineup, so there goes that silly theory that Parker doesn't other players aside from LMA involved.

[YGWHI]

I don't know how you extrapolate that Parker playing well alongside LMA translates into him being only to play with LMA and only getting him involved.

"PGs don't play PRs with SFs" "Parker only can run P&Rs with LMA" "Kawhi's lower USG% cause Parker getting involved LMA" "432-434 shots"

I don't know how you think that Kawhi'll get more shots in a playoffs series with Parker on the court...

[midnightpulp]

"PGs don't play PRs with SFs" "Parker only can run P&Rs with LMA" "Kawhi's lower USG% cause Parker getting involved LMA" "432-434 shots"

I don't know how you think that Kawhi'll get more shots in a playoffs series with Parker on the court...

I expect Duncan and Green to be marginalized more. And if Boris starts in place of Duncan, with him being a playmaker, should translate into more shots for your mancrush.

And again (do I have to repeat myself til I'm blue in the in' face), Parker and LMA playing well together doesn't mean Kawhi is all of sudden an incompatible piece. So the fact that LMA's usage drops significantly when Mills enters now means Mills and LMA aren't compatible? Of course not. Now please reevaluate how stupid that idea of yours was and slap yourself in the in' face to teach yourself a lesson.

[YGWHI]

I expect Duncan and Green to be marginalized more.

More...They're just taking what? 5 shots per game against them. And Parker will try to play P&Rs with Tim...

And if Boris starts in place of Duncan, with him being a playmaker, should translate into more shots for your mancrush.

In fact, Bobo should/will shoot more than Kawhi in those minutes cause Boris has a favorable matchup in the post against Warriors.

No. Kawhi won't get more shots against Warriors with Parker on the court.

Parker and LMA playing well together doesn't mean Kawhi is all of sudden an incompatible piece. So the fact that LMA's usage drops significantly when Mills enters now means Mills and LMA aren't compatible? Of course not.

Why not? They don't seem compatible, Manu fits better with LMA as offensive duo.

[midnightpulp]

More...They're just taking what? 5 shots per game against them. And Parker will try to play P&Rs with Tim...


In fact, Bobo should/will shoot more than Kawhi in those minutes cause Boris has a favorable matchup in the post against Warriors.

No. Kawhi won't get more shots against Warriors with Parker on the court.


Why not? They don't seem compatible, Manu fits better with LMA as offensive duo.

Danny averages about 7 shots per game against them this season. And that was with playing limited minutes in the first game because it was blowout. Duncan, yes, is already marginalized enough. Boris won't get those easy looks in the playoffs. They might swarm him, in which case he'll hopefully kick it out to Kawhi at the 3 point line. I'm sure Pop is working on some Boris-Kawhi plays.

LMA has good efficiency alongside Patty, so they are compatible. His usage just drops a bit, which isn't a big deal.

[YGWHI]

I'm sure Pop is working on some Boris-Kawhi plays

Of course he will, something like Boris throwing a lob to Kawhi to close the series against JordanBogut/BlakeDGreen...Pop's innovative ways.

[DenialTwist]

"PGs don't play PRs with SFs" "Parker only can run P&Rs with LMA" "Kawhi's lower USG% cause Parker getting involved LMA" "432-434 shots"

I don't know how you think that Kawhi'll get more shots in a playoffs series with Parker on the court...

This is why Parker will be the Spurs downfall when the playoffs start. It will be the same story as last season. He is ineffective as a starting point guard. He has no impact on the game when they face elite opponents like OKC and the Warriors. If he doesn't come off the bench next season and the Spurs don't find a younger more athletic starting pg that can shoot and defend better they are going to have a hard time trying to go deep into the playoffs.

[will_spurs]

but he is a better offensive player than Curry or Lebron