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Not Parker, so this thread is now basically closed since that is who you want mentioned.
Your thoughts?
-Players that have big contracts that is in no way close to their real ability and is untradable.
- Players who have roles that is in no way in line with their abilities.
Richard Jefferson killed the spurs for two years.
Who else in spurs history fits the description?
Paid too much. Untradable.
Plays a bigger role than what they can handle.
Not Parker, so this thread is now basically closed since that is who you want mentioned.
Why so defensive bro?
You have Parker in your list? Interesting choice. Who are the other 4?
This is not Parker a thread btw. I didnt even mention him at the op so lets stick to the topic. Of course if you feel like his 14 million is detrimental, you can go ahead and say so..but this isnt a parker thread.
o Boy of Spurstalk.
I know what you implied with the leWhy so defensive bro?
You have Parker in your list? Interesting choice. Who are the other 4?
I'm defensive because "Blame Parker" is a vanilla take these days. You don't want to devolve into a vanilla poster, do you?
Bull it's not a Parker thread. But I'll give you a pretty good short list of guys who have been overpaid, detrimental, and/or a waste of time.
Richard Jefferson
Stephen Jackson II
Charles Smith
Steve Smith
Jackie Butler
Roger Mason
Kurt Thomas
Jaren Jackson
Dennis Rodman
Ron Mercer
Edit: Oh, and how did I forget Bonner?
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Transparent, repe ive, predictable.
Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
Harrison Barnes
Draymond Green
Andrew Bogut
Who has (sic) been the worst 5 detrimental players in spurstalk history?
From my time only so no rodman and old dudes.
1. Jeff
2. Mason
3. Old Bowen, got relied on too much
4. Bonner
lol considering this got anything more than a vanilla poster since his kawhi sucking days.I know what you implied with the le
I'm defensive because "Blame Parker" is a vanilla take these days. You don't want to devolve into a vanilla poster, do you?
Bonner doesn't qualify based on the criteria, was never on anything close to a big contract, been on mins for awhile now
I will bite....
I think this idea depends on both player and year...
For example Kobe the last two years has been very detrimental to the lake show but before that was a franchise cornerstone.
So I will start with
Hedo Turkaglu (never could spell it) I think the spurs just got him at a bad time honestly. He was a very good small forward with the kings. A bigger SF with decent handles and passing as well as a no e outside shot. Spurs slightly overpaid for him as he was slowing and after his time in SA he was a productive stretch 4 and back up for the magic and the clips.
Dennis Rodman... Another player in transition..... He was actually a fairly well rounded player who was effective on both ends with the bad boy pistons... He was also not quite the freakshow he became while there... In SA he clashed with Robinson took days, games and offensive everything off. He also became the dress wearing, Carmen Electra dating rainbow hairing personality that he is famous for... And to think coming home to Texas was written as a good calming move for a player struggling with inner demons when he first came to the spurs.
Richard Jefferson its been said.
2005-2006 Season Rasho Nostrovich. The year before he helped the spurs to a le and suffered a late season lower leg injury. This year he was considerably slower and less inclined to bang inside against Yao and Shaw... He was also commanding a BIG chunk of salary cap space. He was then traded for Bonner and spare change.
2012-2013 DeJuan Blair I wanted to believe. DeJuan started his rookie season with a double double and impressed us all that year. The man without knees also played in basically every game. His sop re outing didn't show as much development as had been hoped and showed a worrisome weight gain for a guy with questions about his leg joints, but he played his way into an detention. This third year more weight, public money issues, missed games, no development and media whoring then whining about no playing time.
I am sure there were franchise drains before Rodman, I just can't comment because it was before my time.... (And I am viewing the rodman time through the eyes of a kid who was in middle school.). I had the season of Parker with a teammates wife as honorable mention but that was handled well by everyone save for Parker and the Other Barry showing hate on broadcasting duties.
1. Dennis Rodman
2. Richard Jefferson
3. Vernon Maxwell
4. Rod Stickland
5. Walter Berry
This is a very worthy list IMO from distraction, to wussy, to out for stat players, to horrible locker room guys. Walter Berry and Dennis Rodman probably played the worst defense ever from an effort point of view. Rodman would stand under the basket leaving his man totally unguarded to stat pad rebounds per game. Berry was the least of a personality problem. Jefferson bad only because he played on good teams and was such an obvious failure. And a wuss of course...
Worst of all is everyone of these guys had mucho God given athletic talent. And they failed.
Richard Jefferson was an upgrade over anyone the Spurs had at small forward at the time, he fit into the role of three point shooter pretty well. The biggest problems were his contract, his new contract, and the draft pick that it cost the Spurs to get rid of him, which could have landed Draymond Green or Quincy Acy. If Jack II had worked out, it would have all been forgotten.
Most detrimental players in Spurs history not named Matt Bonner:
Jackie Butler - Probably number one of all time. Not only wasted space at a critical position that never panned out, but cost Luis Scola to get rid of him.
Sidney Green - Total tub of as a player. Cost two draft picks to get rid of him for JR Reid.
Charles Smith - Damaged goods, Spurs screwed by the Knicks in the trade, cost them a draft pick to get him.
Nick Van Exel - Not even sure how the Spurs ended up with this guy, but he was signed based on past performances.
Dennis Rodman - Sold a few tickets, helped the team win and then pulled the chair out when they needed him most.
Derek Anderson - Probably the main reason Manu Ginobili wasn't brought over in 2000
This is a good list from the business end.
We had some very bad high 1st picks as well.
Alfred the great Hughes.
And Walter Berry... There are more.
Richard Jefferson was a mental midget. We had to try to start him off by throwing him alley oops to start the game? Cater to his weak mind? He was a fail in more than you mentioned. Especially since expectations have clearly seeped into the grading system. Also George Hill could be considered one of our best moves as he got us KL. (Too many degrees of separation though)
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Hedo Turkoglu... we had a lot riding on that choker... luckily it wasn't a long term deal.
Porker being the Spurs' weakest link is only a "vanilla" take because it's just a blatantly obvious fact. The only reason it's even talked about so much is because a small minority of Porker fluffers and their alts refuse to accept it and try to blame everything on Kawhi. It's like arguing with people who refuse to believe that three-pointers exist, or that the NBA uses nets instead of peach baskets now.I know what you implied with the le
I'm defensive because "Blame Parker" is a vanilla take these days. You don't want to devolve into a vanilla poster, do you?
Cluppers nation going ISIS on midnightpulp and spurstalk
Actually forgot about that er
I remember when Splits posted Apa's personal information, then he cried like a little to management.
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