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    Who cares about DPOY when Dwert is the ONLY player in HISTORY to win it 3 consecutive time but has NOTHING to show for it.

    Once you win it once for the sake of legacy it becomes a watered down achievement thereafter.
    I am more concerened about fist team myself.

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    He deserves 3rd team, tbh. Well over Love whose D is still highly suspect.
    The Cavs have only won ONE game that LeBron has missed & that was against a beatup Mavs squad.

    Love's advanced stats are VERY deceiving, he's a guy that screams EYE-TEST. (Same w/ LMA)
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    Harden is not a lock imo because most have made tgeir decisions a few days ago
    Melo's 2013-14 season happened, Harden isn't a lock even as the 8th seed. (Not saying much when the Grizz are a HIGHER seed)

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    How in sweet if the Warriors sweep the awards and 73 in the bag but get beat by dem Spurs
    Would be reminiscent of 2005 Spurs-Suns.

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    Kind of illogical to have Kawhi in second place for MVP, and not first for DPOY. The offensive gap between Kawhi and some other guys is fairly big. The only thing that could make up for that is what he does on the defensive side. If his defense is good enough to bring him to #2 on an MVP ballot, he would need to be defending well enough to be MVP.

    That says to me that Zach is picking DPOY without really thinking about what he's saying. I guess that shouldn't be surprising.

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    There is NO WAY Klay is being left off the All-NBA team, it was going to be b/w Lillard & HarDone...I think we know who's going to win that battle. Hopefully, Lowry doesn't get thrown under the bus b/c he's an afterthought for most casual fans.
    Agree, but his argument and mine were that he has no business being on an All NBA team over those guys. But 72/73 wins will get you there.

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    I don't understand how the Dub games are influencing people to pick Dbag Queen over Kawhi? The Spurs held the Warriors to 104.6 offensive efficiency ratings way below their average of 112.3. That includes the turd of a blowout in game 1. Kawhi is the best defender on the best defensive team in the league by far. These last two games had no bearing on the season. Also, the Warriors actually played their full group, Pop is being cautious with Diaw. If it was the playoffs Diaw would be playing. Kawhi should win DPOY.

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    Good for Ian Mahinmi to get some Most Improved love from Lowe.

    It's a reminder of just how good Spurs' eye for spotting real NBA players late in the First Round of the draft (and developing those players) has been.
    Not sure that I'd give Pop a lot of credit for playing him 6 minutes a game then letting him go to Dallas as a free agent.

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    Green is an overrated defender. Tugging and grabbing jerseys to keep bigger players from scoring.

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    I don't understand how the Dub games are influencing people to pick Dbag Queen over Kawhi? The Spurs held the Warriors to 104.6 offensive efficiency ratings way below their average of 112.3. That includes the turd of a blowout in game 1. Kawhi is the best defender on the best defensive team in the league by far.
    Good take. If someone's going to give Green the DPOY then Leonard and Duncan should be 2 and 3.

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    MVP-Curry
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    6th Man-Iggy

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    Lowry became a superstar

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    LeBron can be the fastest all-court defender in the league when he wishes
    Is Zachy living in a fantasy world?

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    Gaymond will win DPOY. The media doesn't like giving back to back awards when they don't have to.

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    Kawhi should get it over Draymond, the warriors are fifth in defense. They were #1 last year so it's a drop off and he anchors their defense.

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    Green is not going to win DPOY. Kawhi has that baby locked up.
    Not sure, CBS and SI.com show some love to Kawhi, but most reporters from the big guys like ESPN and USAToday pick Dray over Kawhi. Stein and Amick are voting for Warriors in every award-spot, MVP, COY, DPOY, 6th man...
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    Kanter is also one of the worst defenders in the league and has a negative RPM (not even top 50 among centers) I mean I guess I could see the argument for him being 3rd or something, but no way should he get it over Iguodala.

    Crawford is horrible, tbh...gives you decent volume scoring with below average efficiency, and that's it. He's absolutely terrible defensively. Below average PER, negative RPM (73rd among SGs), negative BPM/VORP...list goes on. Would be an absolute crime if he won it.

    Lin/Turner are decent I guess but I'd still say they're nowhere close to Iguodala.
    Iguodala is going to win it, but based on the way they media always votes (the guard version of him is synonymous with this award) on this, Kanter should and only won't because of big man bias.


    Obviously, I hope Leonard wins DPOY, but the fact that he won it last season, when many thought Green should have and the fact that he can't seem to go more than a few weeks without missing a game(s) despite being young and only having had one minor injury, isn't going to help.

    What is going to help, is that the narrative is this team is all Pop and him and that he doesn't have nearly the defensive assistance Green does.

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    National media wet for Draymond

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    The final week screwed the pooch for Kwa.

    ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
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    DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR
    Kawhi Leonard

    COACH OF THE YEAR
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    SIXTH MAN OF THE YEAR
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    Tony Parker. His strong 1st half enough to carry his weak finish.

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    Do Reggie Miller (I think he did last year) and Walt Frazier have official votes? If so, they both picked Leonard as DPOY.

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    Curry will win MVP, obviously. Think Kawhi gets 3rd behind Westbrook.

    I think Kawhi deserves DPOY but Green will get it. Don't think they're quite finished sucking Dub yet

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    Honestly, Curry should get Most Improved Player.
    yup.

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    ¨PART 2

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15...-ballot-part-2


    ALL-NBA

    1st team

    G: Russell Westbrook
    G: Stephen Curry
    F: LeBron James
    F: Kawhi Leonard
    C: DeAndre Jordan

    2nd team

    G: Kyle Lowry
    G: Chris Paul
    F: Draymond Green
    F: Kevin Durant
    C: Al Horford

    3rd team

    G: Klay Thompson
    G: Damian Lillard
    F: Paul George
    F: Paul Millsap
    C: Karl-Anthony Towns

    ALL-DEFENSE

    1st team

    G: Chris Paul
    G: Jimmy Butler
    F: Kawhi Leonard
    F: Draymond Green
    C: Rudy Gobert


    2nd team

    G: Ricky Rubio
    G: Avery Bradley
    F: Paul George
    F: Paul Millsap
    C: DeAndre Jordan

    * Reasons for no Aldridge or Duncan in AL NBA/ALL defense team:

    Next step: Maybe I could move Aldridge into the last center spot! He has played about 45 percent of his minutes there, a much larger share than Green, and logged almost exactly half his minutes without Tim Duncan -- the Spurs' only "true" center, aside from the Boban Monster. But even in those "center" minutes, David West or Boris Diaw might guard the opposing low-post brute, leaving Aldridge on the nominal power forward.

    Aldridge and Diaw might flip-flop those assignments within a possession. Who is the center then?


    The center position has a strong historic legacy, and despite paranoia about its disappearance, there are a ton of good centers -- including many young guys -- in the league today. But the positional categories for All-NBA don't jibe with the game's evolution.


    Sliding Aldridge to center didn't feel right, especially after refusing Green the same benefit.
    Tim Duncan is still the gold standard by some advanced numbers, but he looked creakier than usual in a career-low 1,500-plus minutes.

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    not sure what Jimmy Butler is doing in 1st All D team

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    ¨PART 2

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15...-ballot-part-2


    ALL-NBA

    1st team

    G: Russell Westbrook
    G: Stephen Curry
    F: LeBron James
    F: Kawhi Leonard
    C: DeAndre Jordan

    2nd team

    G: Kyle Lowry
    G: Chris Paul
    F: Draymond Green
    F: Kevin Durant
    C: Al Horford

    3rd team

    G: Klay Thompson
    G: Damian Lillard
    F: Paul George
    F: Paul Millsap
    C: Karl-Anthony Towns

    ALL-DEFENSE

    1st team

    G: Chris Paul
    G: Jimmy Butler
    F: Kawhi Leonard
    F: Draymond Green
    C: Rudy Gobert


    2nd team

    G: Ricky Rubio
    G: Avery Bradley
    F: Paul George
    F: Paul Millsap
    C: DeAndre Jordan

    * Reasons for no Aldridge or Duncan in AL NBA/ALL defense team:
    Gross Zach! DeAndre a first team all-NBA selection? Where have all the good bigs gone? Maybe the human population is shrinking? Zach Lowe has been really disappointing this awards season. At least Bill Simmons put Draymond in the first team and LMA at center on the 2nd. Simmons said he couldn't in good conscious reward the horribleness that is the center position in the NBA. He wouldn't even put Boogie in because he is such a locker room cancer and I think Bill Simmons has a tramp stamp tattoo of Boogie's face.

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