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    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15...-ballot-part-1

    * Expected Kawhi lack of signature performance in the Warriors matchups and last poor game was going to lose him few votes in DPOY and MVP . Hopefully he is saving monster ones for the Playoffs ...

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    ROOKIE OF THE YEAR


    1. Karl-Anthony Towns
    2. Kristaps Porzingis
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    DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR


    1. Draymond Green
    2. Kawhi Leonard *
    3. Paul Millsap

    COACH OF THE YEAR


    1. Steve Kerr
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    SIXTH MAN OF THE YEAR


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    MOST IMPROVED PLAYER


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    I don't remember him on Curry too much in the last game. How is Curry going off his fault if Pop didn't put him on him.

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    Cheers for posting.

    You know I think it was the games against Golden State last year that gave Kawhi his narrow DOPY win. This year, as you say, the lack of a signature game against them may cost him the award. Hope he gets it, we'll see.

    Anyone with Insider willing to tell us what Kevin Pelton said with his awards? Thanks.

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    Green is not going to win DPOY. Kawhi has that baby locked up.

    100% agree with the MVP race. Paul has been a monster this year.

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    As I mentioned in another thread I'm afraid that the Warriors getting 72 or 73 wins means they will get all the awards (except MIP and ROY where they have nobody to put forward).

    Apart from unanimous MVP and COY, I'm afraid Kawhi is going to lose the DPOY to Draymond Green, even if in my opinion he shouldn't. The Spurs have had an historically good defense this year due mostly to Kawhi, but the race for DPOY was really close last year so I'm thinking most voters would rather split it than give it twice to Kawhi.

    Loew puts Kawhi as #2 in the MVP race, which would be a nice acknowledgement of his level of play, but the end of the season tends to weigh heavily and I could Westbrook and possibly Lebron passing him. He should finish no lower than #4 though. Hopefully Westbrook and Durant share too many votes and Kawhi finishes #2.

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    Green is not going to win DPOY. Kawhi has that baby locked up.

    100% agree with the MVP race. Paul has been a monster this year.
    Lowe not buying Westbrook Triple doubles whoring bull

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    As I mentioned in another thread I'm afraid that the Warriors getting 72 or 73 wins means they will get all the awards (except MIP and ROY where they have nobody to put forward).
    Honestly, Curry should get Most Improved Player.

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    I don't really understand how one team can have the MVP, the DPOY, the COY, the 6MOY, and only clinch HCA in the last week of the season over a team that has none of those.

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    Lowe has more of a "new-age" mentality, though, he doesn't represent the old media that relies heavily on narrative and antiquated methods of evaluating players(they are the majority for voting)..he had Danny Green and Gobert on his all-D teams, last year, for example, while the voters predictably had DeAndre Jordan on the 1st team

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    - I'd put LeBron at #2 for MVP and put Kawhi at #3

    - Jokic at #2 in ROTY ahead of Porzingis

    - DPOTY is tough...Draymond has Kawhi beat in both DRPM + opponents' FG% (has also played noticeably more minutes than Kawhi) but I feel like you have to reward the Spurs for being the clear-cut best defensive team in the league. And it's not like Kawhi has a ton more help, Bogut is on Duncan's level defensively and Iggy is as good as Green defensively. My vote goes to Kawhi but I don't think it'd be robbery if they gave it to Green.

    - I still strongly disagree with Kerr winning COTY after missing half the season...Popovich, Stotts, or Clifford would all be better choices

    - Feel like there should be a better 6MOTY candidate considering Iggy missed 15+ games but no one else has really stood out. Manu has probably been better on a per-minute basis but he's missed even more games than Iggy and also averages under 20 mpg.

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    - I'd put LeBron at #2 for MVP and put Kawhi at #3

    - Jokic at #2 in ROTY ahead of Porzingis

    - DPOTY is tough...Draymond has Kawhi beat in both DRPM + opponents' FG% (has also played noticeably more minutes than Kawhi) but I feel like you have to reward the Spurs for being the clear-cut best defensive team in the league. And it's not like Kawhi has a ton more help, Bogut is on Duncan's level defensively and Iggy is as good as Green defensively. My vote goes to Kawhi but I don't think it'd be robbery if they gave it to Green.

    - I still strongly disagree with Kerr winning COTY after missing half the season...Popovich, Stotts, or Clifford would all be better choices

    - Feel like there should be a better 6MOTY candidate considering Iggy missed 15+ games but no one else has really stood out. Manu has probably been better on a per-minute basis but he's missed even more games than Iggy and also averages under 20 mpg.
    The other legit 6th man options play for ty teams, which probably eliminates them from consideration IMO..Teletovic has probably been the best the past 2 months, but he plays for an atrocious Suns team..

    Will Barton was on pace to win it, but he has been horrible the past 2 months, in addition to playing on a bad team..

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    Good for Ian Mahinmi to get some Most Improved love from Lowe.

    It's a reminder of just how good Spurs' eye for spotting real NBA players late in the First Round of the draft (and developing those players) has been.

    It used to be a thing to question whether the Spurs were actually finding guys late in first rounds, but with the lone exception of James Anderson (and maybe Jean-Charles, though we'll see), the first round picks the Spurs have made for themselves (and not immediately traded) since 2001 have all proven to be long-term NBA guys who can actually play in the league:

    2001 - Parker
    2004 - Udrih (792 games over 12 NBA seasons)
    2005 - Mahinmi (437 games over 8 NBA seasons)
    2007 - Splitter (347 games over 6 NBA seasons)
    2008 - Hill (549 games over 8 NBA seasons)
    2011 - Joseph (283 games over 5 NBA seasons)
    2013 - K. Anderson

    Obviously, if you count Kawhi as a pick, the prowess is all the better.

    Relatedly, and I didn't know this previously, of all 62 players who've ever been picked #28 in any NBA draft, Parker is #1 in career WS (105.8), but Splitter is 10th (25.2), and Mahinmi is 11th (19.9). Of all players ever picked #26, Hill is #4 in career WS (47.8) behind only Vlade Divac, Kevin Martin, and Sam Dalembert.

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    Ya, I made a thread about Mahinmi, last month..he has probably been the 2nd best player on a playoff team, pretty impressive(albeit a ty playoff team)

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    Tom Haberstroh picks..


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    Haberstroh seems to strongly dislike Aldridge, tbh.

    He left him off all 3 all-NBA teams, and he was on ESPN radio yesterday saying Aldridge's numbers against the Warriors have been mostly empty..

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    Tom Haberstroh picks..

    Much love for Kawhi (#2 MVP, DPOY, All-NBA 1st, All-D 1st) and Pop. This is going to be interesting.

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    Haberstroh seems to strongly dislike Aldridge, tbh.

    He left him off all 3 all-NBA teams, and he was on ESPN radio yesterday saying Aldridge's numbers against the Warriors have been mostly empty..
    Check his previous years selection.

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    Small sample size with ballots released but Leonard on most of the first team all-NBA lists.

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    Haberstroh seems to strongly dislike Aldridge, tbh.

    He left him off all 3 all-NBA teams, and he was on ESPN radio yesterday saying Aldridge's numbers against the Warriors have been mostly empty..


    yeah, last season he called him Big man Iverson few times

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    I'm surprised there isn't more consideration for Kawhi to win MIP.
    To go from a non all star season to #2 in MVP votes is unheard of.

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    yeah, last season he called him Big man Iverson few times
    Ya, I guess that confirms it

    He's been defending the Spurs on ESPN since Sunday, too, saying it's stupid that people are writing them off when they were playing without their best weapon in the matchup(Diaw)..I guess he just hates Aldridge's game, though..

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    To go from a non all star season to #2 in MVP votes is unheard of.
    The fact that Kawhi wasn't an All-Star last year was a snub of epic proportions and everybody knows it.

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    yeah, last season he called him Big man Iverson few times
    LMA shooting a career high in fg%, ft%, blocks per minute, and vastly improved over-all defense. Oh, and his team is winning 65+ games. Since December I'd say he's been as much a part of that success as Kawhi. He deserves 3rd team, tbh. Well over Love whose D is still highly suspect.

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    I'm surprised there isn't more consideration for Kawhi to win MIP.
    To go from a non all star season to #2 in MVP votes is unheard of.
    Agreed. And how many defending DPOY's spend half the season leading the league in 3 point percentage?

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    Green is not going to win DPOY. Kawhi has that baby locked up.
    Why do you think this tbh? All the rumblings I've seen/read seem to have mouthbreather slightly ahead.

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