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    sanders has been winning states but the margins need to be bigger for him to actually catch up. winning a state by 10-20 delegates isn't going to get him caught up in time to sway supers
    Sanders has to win NY....Nate is giving Clinton a 95% chance of winning NY......so yeah, Sanders has a though road ahead...but this is politics and anything can happen....

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    ting on clinton/obama administration
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    Hillary and her superpacs have been flinging plenty of for months.

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    Hillary and her superpacs have been flinging plenty of for months.
    never denied that

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    Its too bad she's about to wipe the floor with him starting with New York.

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    Its too bad she's about to wipe the floor with him starting with New York.
    Yeah, I don't know about 'wipe the floor'....Bernie is within 10 in the latest polls and given that NY is a primarily blue state, we can expect minimal young voter suppression....it could be close, but yeah, if Bernie loses NY by even a few delegates it will just be even more delegates he has to win somewhere else....

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    69% unfavorable Trump

    63% said they'd never vote for him.

    He can't even get 50% of Repugs, never gonna win the general. And neither can Cruz. You Repugs are ed.

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    Yeah, I don't know about 'wipe the floor'....Bernie is within 10 in the latest polls and given that NY is a primarily blue state, we can expect minimal young voter suppression....it could be close, but yeah, if Bernie loses NY by even a few delegates it will just be even more delegates he has to win somewhere else....
    are people going to play the suppression card every time a ballot doesnt go their way?

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    Yeah, I don't know about 'wipe the floor'....Bernie is within 10 in the latest polls and given that NY is a primarily blue state, we can expect minimal young voter suppression....it could be close, but yeah, if Bernie loses NY by even a few delegates it will just be even more delegates he has to win somewhere else....
    She doesnt have to wipe the floor with him. She will win Pennsylvania, New York, California, Maryland.

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    are people going to play the suppression card every time a ballot doesnt go their way?
    in red, slave, Repug-controlled states, why not? esp if the vote diff is only a couple percent. Repugs CLEARLY, and now ADMITTEDLY, pass laws to suppress voters who don't vote "their way".

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    Yeah, I don't know about 'wipe the floor'....Bernie is within 10 in the latest polls and given that NY is a primarily blue state, we can expect minimal young voter suppression....it could be close, but yeah, if Bernie loses NY by even a few delegates it will just be even more delegates he has to win somewhere else....
    New polls today show her padding that 10 points lead to 8 more points. This is even before he went ham on her.

    I have a feeling that the unqualified comment is going to hurt him even more.

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    the whole thing, but 2:28 in particular


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    Republicans going to "steal" the election at the convention - Dems doing it one state at a time.

    The question is: When it's over, are the voters going to be mad and demand change, or are they just going to go to sleep for the next 3 years? This feels different, and am hoping that this is the beginning of the end for the two-party system.

    By all rights, Bernie and Trump should represent their own parties.

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    the whole thing, but 2:28 in particular

    This guy is a major bag. He doesn't even know how the proportionate system works. It shakes out more or less the same. They split the vote evenly. 14 delegates spread two ways.

    They did a ty job making Hillary look like she had an amazing day despite losing. They included superdelegates without saying so of course it will look inflated.

    Which brings me to the next point. Superdelegates have been in place since like the 80s and haven't come into play since. So then, he has a problem with it now? That's down right hilarious.

    Do your job media.

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    WWithout saying so? next time watch it before commenting

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    WWithout saying so? next time watch it before commenting
    He made the case the system was rigged first without talking about oh yeah nevermind, those are the super delegates. He didn't mentioned them at all, The only person who made a remark about superdelegates was the blonde chick. He talked delegates only.

    There's a difference.

    He made it sound like Hillary had 11 delegates over Sander's 7. That's a huge fail. He went on an angry tangent without clarifying the difference between a delegate and a superdelegate.

    In fact, he never brought up the term superdelegates. Instead, he went full re about how she got more delegates than he did which is false. Each got 7 and the graphics should reflect that.

    Collectively they all failed misserably. He doesn't even know how the system works and the other two dudes sitting oposite got intimidated and couldn't explain away the situation.

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    Keep semen shielding shillary

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    Keep semen shielding shillary
    In this case I'm defending Sanders actually.

    Is disingenuous to say Hillary has the more delegates when in fact you're adding delegates and superdelegates for her but not for Sanders.

    Just because you have no arguement here doesn't mean you have to get personal.

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    superdelegate votes count just like delegate votes. to just pretend the superdelegates dont exist is ridiculous and disingenuous. wyoming has 4 supers and they've all pledged to shillary.

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    superdelegate votes count just like delegate votes. to just pretend the superdelegates dont exist is ridiculous and disingenuous. wyoming has 4 supers and they've all pledged to shillary.
    They haven't come into play since the 80s. So no, they dont count as far as electing anyone. In the end they all switch what the popular vote goes to so people voting actually matters.

    Joe Scarbough just knows his ty republican party blows and wants to drag anyone he can with. I agree that the superdelegates should be done away with entirely but the way the democratic party votes is miles better than the Republican party.

    Whoever heard of a state (Colorado) having a convention and getting their delegates that way without a single vote cast.

    Now that is questinable without a shadow of a doubt.

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    They haven't come into play since the 80s. So no, they dont count as far as electing anyone. In the end they all switch what the popular vote goes to so people voting actually matters.

    Joe Scarbough just knows his ty republican party blows and wants to drag anyone he can with. I agree that the superdelegates should be done away with entirely but the way the democratic party votes is miles better than the Republican party.

    Whoever heard of a state (Colorado) having a convention and getting their delegates that way without a single vote cast.

    Now that is questinable without a shadow of a doubt.
    You don't understand how Colorado works.

    http://link.nationalreview.com/view/....4f47/00296043

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    by the way, lost in the shuffle of the delegate count is the popular vote.

    Clinton so far has about 2.5 million more votes than sanders, and trump has a roughly 2 million vote advantage over cruz (though the rest of the republican field has well over 6.5 million votes)

    so far in the democratic primary they've received something like 16.5 million votes in total while the republicans have close the 21 million votes... recent trends have shown republicans getting a higher turnout in midterms but low turnouts in the general election... but i imagine this to normalize considering the massive blue states, CA and NY have yet to be accounted for

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    Polls still say that NY is gonna make it a lot tougher for Bernie

    New York polls have stabilized: Hillary Clinton has a clear and comfortable lead
    By dailynewsbin | April 13, 2016

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    Here’s where New York now stands: over the past week, eight different polling outlets have released new numbers. They all peg Hillary Clinton’s lead as being between ten and eighteen points. She’s likely to finish somewhere in that range. This is a closed primary, which means no Michigan style surprise. And because it’s too large of a state to erase a double digit difference in the final week before voting, it now looks clear that Clinton will win comfortably. That may help explain why the Sanders campaign is already looking to arrange a way to explain away the likely loss.
    http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/new...le-lead/24460/

    There can't possibly be that many landlines in NY can there?

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    There can't possibly be that many landlines in NY can there?
    Just decided voters.

    It doesn't help that Sanders is still not getting through the black people. He's stuck at around 25 percent or something like that.

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    The democratic debates have officially turned into the GOP mess. LOL

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    Shillary has no response for the transcripts.

    Why won't she release them, Reck?

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